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Idaho gov calls for wolf kill
Yahoo News ^ | Jan 11, 2007 | JESSE HARLAN ALDERMAN

Posted on 01/12/2007 10:34:05 AM PST by Lorianne

BOISE, Idaho - Idaho's governor said Thursday he will support public hunts to kill all but 100 of the state's gray wolves after the federal government strips them of protection under the Endangered Species Act.

Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter told The Associated Press that he wants hunters to kill about 550 gray wolves. That would leave about 100 wolves, or 10 packs, according to a population estimate by state wildlife officials.

The 100 surviving wolves would be the minimum before the animals could again be considered endangered.

"I'm prepared to bid for that first ticket to shoot a wolf myself," Otter said earlier Thursday during a rally of about 300 hunters.

Otter complained that wolves are rapidly killing elk and other animals essential to Idaho's multimillion-dollar hunting industry. The hunters, many wearing camouflage clothing and blaze-orange caps, applauded wildly during his comments.

Suzanne Stone, a spokeswoman for the advocacy group Defenders of Wildlife in Boise, said Otter's proposal would return wolves to the verge of eradication.

"Essentially he has confirmed our worst fears for the state of Idaho: That this would be a political rather than a biological management of the wolf population," Stone said. "There's no economic or ecological reason for maintaining such low numbers. It's simple persecution."

Wolves were reintroduced to the northern Rocky Mountains a decade ago after being hunted to near-extinction. More than 1,200 now live in the region.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service plans to start removing federal protections from gray wolves in Montana and Idaho in the next few weeks.

A plan drafted by Idaho's wildlife agency calls for maintaining a minimum of 15 wolf packs — higher than Otter's proposal of 10 packs.

Jeff Allen, a policy adviser for the state Office of Species Conservation, said 15 wolf packs would allow "a cushion" between the surviving wolf population and the minimum number that federal biologists would allow before the animals are again considered endangered.

Allen said Otter and state wildlife officials agree on wolf strategy and will be able to reach a consensus on specific numbers.

"You don't want to be too close to 10 because all of a sudden when one (wolf) is hit by a car or taken in defense of property, you're back on the list," Allen said


TOPICS: Government; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; environment; esa; hunting; wolves
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Governer has a cute name, Butch Otter. Headline writer missed an opportunity there: Butch Otter to Kill Hundeds of Wolves.
1 posted on 01/12/2007 10:34:08 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

If you're not going to eat them, don't hunt them.


2 posted on 01/12/2007 10:43:11 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: Ben Mugged
If you're not going to eat them, don't hunt them.

According to Little Big Man: "Dog ain't bad, neither. Greasy, I'll admit,... ...but you'd be surprised how delicate the flavor is,... ...especially when you're starving."

3 posted on 01/12/2007 10:51:19 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: Ben Mugged

Exactly. What kind of @$$hole thinks up crap like this? The only reasons they should be doing this are : if they threaten humans (unlikely) or livestock. This is just sick and stupid.


4 posted on 01/12/2007 10:52:19 AM PST by John Philoponus
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To: Lorianne
And exactly how are they going to know they have killed all but 100 of the animals? This is more idiotic, ill informed, knee jerk bovine scatology.

What this idiot fails to comprehend is that wolves occupy a specific niche in the food chain. And essentially eradicating them from face of the earth has consequences. This guy is an unadulterated:


5 posted on 01/12/2007 10:53:52 AM PST by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the lamestream media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: T.Smith
Dog ain't bad, neither.

And he was right.
I've had dog, and it ain't half bad.

6 posted on 01/12/2007 10:55:26 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Ben Mugged

As far as killing what you eat, I am essentially for that. There is something to be said, though, for selective predator harvesting.

I enjoy it myself. It keeps the predator population in check, thereby allowing game species: rabbit, squirrel, deer, etc, to thrive. More can be said for ornamental species as well, such as migratory birds like robins.

Not to mention, predator hunting keeps your game hunting skills sharp. Picking off a coyote at 200 yards in the wide open takes some serious skill.

While wolves may not be tasty, I think the rabbits, deer and other herbivores they take out are much better table fare, so I can see selectively harvesting predators.


7 posted on 01/12/2007 11:00:22 AM PST by shag377 (De gustibus non disputandum est)
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To: shag377
Predator population management is one thing. Reducing the population to 100 animals for a state the size of Idaho is not population management, it's damn near extermination. Idaho has 83,574 square miles of land area. Reducing the population to 100 animals means 1 animal for every 835 square miles. This would mean about 1.5 wolves in all of Yosemite National Park to put things in perspective. This guy is an flaming idiot.
8 posted on 01/12/2007 11:10:16 AM PST by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the lamestream media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: shag377
The 100 surviving wolves would be the minimum before the animals could again be considered endangered.

I guess harvesting a species to the edge of endangered makes sense? I agree that keeping control of a predator population is healthy but how much pressure is 650 wolves actually placing on 83,574 sq mi of prey? Thats one wolf for each 129 square miles.

9 posted on 01/12/2007 11:15:26 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: stm

Great minds think alike.


10 posted on 01/12/2007 11:16:42 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: Just another Joe
"I've had dog, and it ain't half bad."

I must have had the other half...

11 posted on 01/12/2007 11:19:19 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)
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To: Lorianne

The Gov is right. These reintroduced wolves play the devil with ranchers. Hopefully they can hem in some at Glacier National Park (International Peace Park Biosphere for you PETA/Sierra Club jackasses) and cut the #s waaaay down everywhere else. But the habitat in the extreme north of the state will probably not well support ten packs. The lower elevation areas--home to ranches--provide much more food.


12 posted on 01/12/2007 11:24:25 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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To: John Philoponus
Exactly. What kind of @$$hole thinks up crap like this? The only reasons they should be doing this are : if they threaten humans (unlikely) or livestock. This is just sick and stupid.

Easy for you to say that when you aren't losing livestock or watching the elk, deer and moose herds being killed. Idaho once had a native population of wolves that weighed about 40 lbs. The idiots that wanted to being wolves "back" decided to put big Canadian wolves...120 lbs each...into Idaho, Wyoming and Montana. It was a stupid idea, but it was "sold" with the provision that they would never be more than 10 wolf packs. It's gone completely out of control. The wolves DO threaten people, pets, livestock and wildlife (deer, elk, moose). The wolf packs kill for SPORT and leave carcasses all over the place.

13 posted on 01/12/2007 11:30:04 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Ben Mugged; stm
It's amusing to watch the blind lead the blind. Pat each other other the back. You haven't a clue about the subject. Feel free to go hiking in the mountains of Idaho unarmed. It will improve the gene pool.
14 posted on 01/12/2007 11:33:10 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: stm

I have to agree with you. Killing wolves is not the best thing to do, pretty moronic if you ask me. Wouldn't be easier if we just killed child rapists, murderers, etc., you get the picture.

As for those that think dog is such a wonderful delicacy, I hope you choke.


15 posted on 01/12/2007 11:33:11 AM PST by JEC ((Pray for ALL our troops))
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To: Lorianne
 
 
I know folk who would like to have a fleet of helos equipped with FLIR and XM214 miniguns to wipe them out with. That so-called "re-introduction" has had a bad effect on the elk and moose populations, all the way into western Wyoming. Ask anybody who lives up there and is active in the forests out there.
 
 
 

16 posted on 01/12/2007 11:35:58 AM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Lorianne
Governer has a cute name, Butch Otter. Headline writer missed an opportunity there: Butch Otter to Kill Hundeds of Wolves.

ROFLOL! You've missed your calling as a real journalist!

17 posted on 01/12/2007 11:41:57 AM PST by TChris (The Democratic Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: Myrddin
I hunted elk with a bow in northern Arizona every season for 14 years. I was a survival instructor in the Canadian wilderness with the US Air Force for 7 years. I'll compare my wilderness skills with you any day......

And as for improving the gene pool, the last resort of the outmatched is to hurl insults.

18 posted on 01/12/2007 11:46:27 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: shag377

Do you mean predators like yourself?


19 posted on 01/12/2007 11:49:21 AM PST by JEC ((Pray for ALL our troops))
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To: JEC
As for those that think dog is such a wonderful delicacy, I hope you choke.

I had a pet hen once. Tasted like chicken.

20 posted on 01/12/2007 11:50:59 AM PST by Max in Utah (WWBFD? "What Would Ben Franklin Do?")
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