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Pentagon's Carr Refutes Kerry, Damon: Poorest Only Underrepresented Group in Military
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 01/12/2007 11:23:22 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

John Kerry's notorious "stuck in Iraq" statement, echoed by actor Matt Damon, suggesting that the United States military is a last resort for those without the education or finances to pursue other options, has been roundly refuted by Deputy Under Secretary of Defense Bill Carr. Among other areas, Carr has responsibility for recruiting and retenton. Secretary Carr appeared on yesterday's edition of my "rightANGLE" TV show. In addition to commenting on a wide range of recruitment-related topics, Sec. Carr had this to say about the Kerry-Damon remarks:

"Two-thirds of those entering the military are drawn from the top half, so we have a clearly disproportionate, strongly educated, high-aptitude military. With regard to financial status of the parents, that's also misrepresented. The only group that is underrepresented in the military are the poorest. If you look at the zip codes from which they come, and then you compare the incomes, using commercial sources, from those zip codes, we're represented exactly as we should be except we're seriously underrepresented among the poorest, and somewhat overrepresented in the middle class. And could I add, the financial elite . . . are represented in exactly their proportion in the population."

Carr theorized that health care issues might explain the underrepresentation of the poorest Americans in the military.View video of Sec. Carr's comments here.

Although Secretary Carr was too diplomatic to suggest it, my own research indicates that among members of our military, there is another signficantly underrepresented demographic: millionaire movie stars.

Mark was in Iraq in November. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; johnkerry; mattdamon; militaryrecruiting; pl

1 posted on 01/12/2007 11:23:27 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Kerry-Damon-refuted ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 01/12/2007 11:24:13 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I would dare say the average Gi-Joe or Jane is better educated than Kerry and Damon combined.
3 posted on 01/12/2007 11:24:33 AM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Actually - white, male and educated is vastly over represented...
4 posted on 01/12/2007 11:26:24 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

They spout off stuff that's not true, then hope nobody calls them on it........


5 posted on 01/12/2007 11:27:27 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Are they overlooking the liberal Democrats in the military as an "underrepresented group"?


6 posted on 01/12/2007 11:27:48 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Of course when you are sucking off the welfare tit, why join an organization that may teach you something useful. Why work when you don't have to and can complain about being poor and needy and a victim of society. Really it COULD be a way out for many poor people. The armed forces teach valuable jobs skills and self discipline. It makes people very attractive to employers. But when it is portrayed by our leaders the way it is.... its a wonder anyone joins at all.
7 posted on 01/12/2007 11:28:28 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It's good to see a Republican Finally fire back at the RATS.

Lets hope it continues.


8 posted on 01/12/2007 11:30:55 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
there is another significantly underrepresented demographic: millionaire movie stars

Because they are self-centered selfish moronic Cowards.


9 posted on 01/12/2007 11:30:56 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Red Badger
They spout off stuff that's not true, then hope nobody calls them on it........

They know that the MSM will not.

10 posted on 01/12/2007 11:31:31 AM PST by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: msnimje

whether they're better educated or not, they guaranteed have more common sense than those 2 clowns


11 posted on 01/12/2007 11:32:16 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thanks Mark and thanks to Deputy Under Secretary of Defense Bill Carr. OUTSTANDING.

REFUTE the lie, don't repeat the lie. NAIL and if necessary (in cases of serial liars) DESTROY the liar.


12 posted on 01/12/2007 11:33:10 AM PST by PGalt
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This is what Matt Damon thinks when he looks in the mirror in the morning:

"I'm rich and famous, so I must be smart."

Try again, Matt. How about this:

"I'm rich and famous, so I must be smug and snarky."

Better. Much better.


13 posted on 01/12/2007 11:33:49 AM PST by RexBeach (In war there is no substitute for victory. - Douglas MacArthur)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I read recently that New England is also under represented in the Military.

I wonder why that is? (I hope my sarcasm isn’t showing too much)

14 posted on 01/12/2007 11:34:11 AM PST by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: 2banana

2banana wrote: "Actually - white, male and educated is vastly over represented..."

Are you serious? Women are still a minority in the military, but racial minorities are well represented.

http://www.dod.mil/prhome/poprep2003/appendixb/b_03.html


15 posted on 01/12/2007 11:41:33 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: RexBeach

http://mattdamonteamamerica.ytmnd.com/


16 posted on 01/12/2007 11:45:08 AM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth
"Of course when you are sucking off the welfare tit, why join an organization that may teach you something useful. Why work when you don't have to and can complain about being poor and needy and a victim of society. Really it COULD be a way out for many poor people. The armed forces teach valuable jobs skills and self discipline. It makes people very attractive to employers. But when it is portrayed by our leaders the way it is.... its a wonder anyone joins at all."

Are you kidding? Give up welfare,and sleeping till noon everyday, smoking a joint the moment you do wake up, partying all night, cruising around with your 'bro's" shooting at people,and making good cash dealing drugs, going to bed and doing it all over again, day after day-

Give that up for hard, ball busting work? Being forced to use your brain? having to live by rules? dicipline? being responsible? having enormous responsibilities and people depending on you for their lives?

HA! Not a chance. This is the democrat base we are dealing with; they'll have nothing to do with that "what can I do for my country" crap.
They elect and support the people who make the "what can my country do for me" checks happen. They might go as far as participate in demonstrations (which are really dope fests anyways), smash puplic property, set flags on fire, throw marbles under the hooves of police horses, but WORK for the nation, DEFEND it? Not a chance.

We should be thankful John Kerry's supporters DON'T enlist, I know I wouldn't want to put my life in their hands on the battlefield.

17 posted on 01/12/2007 11:46:08 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Common sense refutes Kerry and Damon but it will never stop them from being pompous, blowhard, America-hating, girly-men.
I do love to see them smacked down publicly once in a while though. It like watching Sean Penn try to sound intelligent as he stumbles, stutters, and stammers his way through an incoherent thought.



Sean Penn: Last year I went to Iraq. Before Team America showed up, it was a happy place. They had flowery meadows and rainbow skies, and rivers made of chocolate, where the children danced and laughed and played with gumdrop smiles.
-Team America:World Police


18 posted on 01/12/2007 11:52:26 AM PST by JerseyDvl ("If you attack Americans, we'll defend your right to do it."- The Democrat Party)
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To: RexBeach
"This is what Matt Damon thinks when he looks in the mirror in the morning:
"I'm rich and famous, so I must be smart."
Try again, Matt. How about this:
"I'm rich and famous, so I must be smug and snarky."
Better. Much better.

How about:"This is what Matt Damon thinks when he looks in the mirror in the morning:

I'm nothing but an actor;
I dropped out of school in grade 9;
My life is based of fairy tales and scripts;
Nothing about me is real;
All my friends have serious mental problems;
All my friends have no moral dignity;
I live in an alternate reality;
I haven't a clue what goes on in the real world;
I live in a vaccum;

I'm a mushroom- I grew up on bull Sh$t;

19 posted on 01/12/2007 11:56:05 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

REcently a popular figure brought up the idea that MORE public demonstration could change the 'course' in this war and wondered where the protesters were. You and I well know that if the 'good' drugs were there they'd be there.



"We should be thankful John Kerry's supporters DON'T enlist, I know I wouldn't want to put my life in their hands on the battlefield."
Say it loud, my friend.


20 posted on 01/12/2007 12:04:03 PM PST by griswold3
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth

Well stated!


21 posted on 01/12/2007 12:36:50 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; governsleastgovernsbest; Grampa Dave; Boazo

22 posted on 01/12/2007 12:38:35 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch

I am literally LOL!


23 posted on 01/12/2007 12:41:25 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: devolve; governsleastgovernsbest

Thank you!


24 posted on 01/12/2007 12:43:15 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Neither the drug abusing Jon Carry and Matt Damon would be able to get into today's volunteer military.

Also, neither one is smart enough to get if they passed their drug tests, which is doubtful.


25 posted on 01/12/2007 12:45:43 PM PST by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Keep in mind also that the military does not accept just anyone who wants to join. Many of those in the poorest communities may have criminal records that would exclude them from military service.


26 posted on 01/12/2007 12:48:22 PM PST by LWalk18
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Superb!


27 posted on 01/12/2007 12:48:43 PM PST by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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To: devolve; Grampa Dave

Thank you Dave


28 posted on 01/12/2007 12:51:06 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

sKerry-lib logic: "I was in the military. I'm dumber than a fence post. Therefore people in the military must be dumber than a fence post."


29 posted on 01/12/2007 12:54:40 PM PST by TigersEye (If you don't understand the 2nd Amendment then you don't understand America.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This needs to be emailed to Damon and the union headquarters for actors, a little education would do them good.


30 posted on 01/12/2007 12:54:57 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I'd be interested in a statistic that shows mumber of U.S. Senators and Represenatives whose offspring are currently in the military split out between Republican and Democrat.

We should strive for balance and diversity don't you know

31 posted on 01/12/2007 1:04:33 PM PST by HardStarboard (Give Pelosi and Reid Enough Rope to Hang Themselves.)
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To: potlatch


A Hall of Fame Classic!


32 posted on 01/12/2007 1:22:40 PM PST by devolve ( ....shop_invest_and_hire_wisely)
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To: devolve
Lol, you don't have to go through all of these one by one. They are 'etched', ETCHED your memory!!
33 posted on 01/12/2007 1:26:07 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch


Hoo moi?


34 posted on 01/12/2007 3:16:30 PM PST by devolve ( ....shop_invest_and_hire_wisely)
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To: devolve

Only you


35 posted on 01/12/2007 3:29:42 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch
The Inkspots recorded that didn't they?

36 posted on 01/12/2007 3:47:42 PM PST by devolve ( ....shop_invest_and_hire_wisely)
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To: devolve

The Platters


37 posted on 01/12/2007 3:54:54 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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