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Posted on 01/15/2007 8:04:12 AM PST by shrinkermd
The Sixties generation thought everything should be free. But only a few decades later the hippies were selling water at rock festivals for $5 a bottle. But for me the price of “free love” was even higher.
I sacrificed what should have been the best years of my life for the black lie of free love. All the sex I ever had — and I had more than my fair share — far from bringing me the lasting relationship I sought, only made marriage a more distant prospect...
And I am not alone. Count me among the dissatisfied daughters of the sexual revolution, a new counterculture of women who are realising that casual sex is a con and are choosing to remain chaste instead.
I am 37, and like millions of other girls, was born into a world which encouraged young women to explore their sexuality. It was almost presented to us as a feminist act. In the 1960s the future Cosmopolitan editor Helen Gurley Brown famously asked: Can a woman have sex like a man? Yes, she answered because “like a man, [a woman] is a sexual creature”. Her insight launched a million “100 new sex tricks” features in women’s magazines. And then that sex-loving feminist icon Germaine Greer enthused that “groupies are important because they demystify sex; they accept it as physical, and they aren’t possessive about their conquests”.
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Show me evidence in the article that she "really won't feel happy until we all do like she does." I see no suggestion that she is trying to impose her beliefs on others; she is merely showing us what has brought her happiness.
My name for this kind of person? Neoprude.
So if you think she is a prude, please tell us how much sex without marriage you think is okay, neither prudish nor slutty. Where is the balance?
Birth control is like a gun: It grants power, but is itself not good nor bad. It depends on how the power is wielded in the hands of a human.
What I'm discovering is there is a large number of divorced women in their 30s who are enjoying the single life while sharing custody of their kids with their ex's. It's the best of both worlds for them... they have children, but are free from the restraints of marriage. This freedom lets them party like there's no tomorrow, especially on the weekends the kids are with dad. It's like a social pack of divorced women who go out and get drunk with each other, every other weekend. Seriously. I find it amusing yet kinda disturbing.
Are there women who marry for the sole purpose of procreating, then ultimately divorce to enjoy the single life again?
I just missed coming of age in the sixties. Thank goodness!
Marriage has always been more of an economic relationship through history rather than love. The idea that the partners need to be in love is a rather new idea. The idea that one marries only for love has usually been considered foolish until the last century. To this day it doesn't guarantee success.
Marriages were formed for political and econimic gain as well as to make certain that the product of the marriage - the support and inheritance claims (children) were controlled. One had to know who the father was so he would support the child and endow it. Therefore the sexual activities of the woman had to be controlled. DNA is a rather new device.
Since the advent of "romantic love" as the primary reason for marriage the unspoken dictum has been "if you want her, marry her." Since the male initiates the choice and the woman's consent is a response - he has to want her enough to make that initial proposition. It's no longer a negotiation between the young couple's parents.
The "free love" of the Baby Boomers eviserated the need for a choice on either side. It make love into sex without love. Temporary passion is not love - it's sex.
My mother's message to me was: keep yourself worthy of a worthy man. (It worked wonderfully!)
As Laura Schlesinger says living together is not marriage - it's being an unpaid whore.
Of course this "onus" on the woman is considered grossly unfair to the woman as well as anachronistic by the feminists. However, people are people the feminists notwithstanding. The basic human responses haven't changed.
If you give it away freely, it's not worth much.
You must be one heck of a person with a comment like that.
Must be great to be able to say you have never made a mistake or listened to bad advice when you thought you were being told something that was true.
And then to sit in judgement of those who, not being as perfect as you are have not only made mistakes but decided to share that truth with others.
No, I am referring to our more recent ancestors--people who lived seventy-five, a hundred, three hundred years ago. At those times people believed sex before or without marriage was generally unwise, damaging to the female psyche and to society. And so it has proved to be.
I may have missed it, but where in this article did it say she found Christ?
Why not?
It's not as bad as: Misty Hyman, or Dick Trickle.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Like I said in the quote from the Gawker article, she's written a book on the subject of being a virgin again. People write books in order to sway other people's thinking. I guess I was just generalizing from my experience with very vocal religious people who are always trying to get everyone else to see the error of their ways.
So if you think she is a prude, please tell us how much sex without marriage you think is okay, neither prudish nor slutty. Where is the balance?
Happy to oblige you. The correct amount is the amount you can handle. If you've taken all due precautions on disease transmission and conception prevention, have all you think you can handle without going into some sort of major funk over it. For some people, that is going to mean sex with condoms with someone who has also been tested for STDs, that they just met, and are hitting it off with, and for others, that means being sexual with the person who has promised to marry you.
By all means, if you cannot deal with premarital sex, then absolutely refrain from it. But don't expect everyone to emulate or admire you for it, especially if you're squeamish about kissing.
You should tone down you hatred for catholicsm.
You obviously grew up in a catholic home, and have a decidedly different view. It was not your religion it was the religion of your parents. you should find your own. It may indeed be sexually repressive, but it is clear that it is exactly that sexual reperssion which attracted this lost soul to catholicism afer a life of being debauched by every man she slept with.
If this woman finds solace in the catholic church, why do you feel this desire to denigrate her for it. BTW didn't that idiot irish singer Sinaed O'Connor become a born again catholic, for much the same reasons as this woman.
You need to just let it go. If the Catholic church is not for you, that is fine. Go find something else.
BTW, I'm not a catholic, never was, never will be.
This woman must be stopped.
But the important thing would be...
Do they work any better?
Actually, it is intrinsically evil. Its sole purpose is to prevent the proper operation of the human body (the reproductive system). It's simply a poison.
Artificial means of birth control are to the human reproductive system what binging-and-purging is to the human digestive system.
I just had a college class where Margaret Sanger was presented as a saint. I asked the students about Sanger and genocide. They denied it. During the break I gathered some quotations and the photo of Sanger speaking to the KKK. The whole class was disgusted over the quotations and the photo.
Then I read them a quotation from Jesse Jackson about abortion being unthinkable. They did not know the author. Then I told them. It made quite an impression.
And since that time, we invented prostitutes, concubines, and extramarital affairs? No, people really didn't refrain from it all that much, they were just way more hypocritical about it.
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