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1 posted on 01/15/2007 8:04:14 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

The "women are the same as men" feminist lie did great damage to a generation of women. Put it down as one more reason not to trust radical feminist...


2 posted on 01/15/2007 8:07:28 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: shrinkermd
But for me the price of “free love” was even higher.

"Yeah, too bad about that." --MSM

In 1968, Planned Parenthood and the MSM lied about how "the pill" would liberate women.

In 1968, someone else told the truth.

Consequences of Artificial Methods

17. Responsible men can become more deeply convinced of the truth of the doctrine laid down by the Church on this issue if they reflect on the consequences of methods and plans for artificial birth control. Let them first consider how easily this course of action could open wide the way for marital infidelity and a general lowering of moral standards. Not much experience is needed to be fully aware of human weakness and to understand that human beings—and especially the young, who are so exposed to temptation—need incentives to keep the moral law, and it is an evil thing to make it easy for them to break that law. Another effect that gives cause for alarm is that a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and, disregarding her physical and emotional equilibrium, reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection.

Humanae Vitae


3 posted on 01/15/2007 8:10:19 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: shrinkermd

Dawn you ignorant slut.


4 posted on 01/15/2007 8:11:00 AM PST by JRochelle (Hunter 2008!)
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To: shrinkermd

Good article. As someone right in her age demographic, I totally see how casual sex has seriously, negatively, impacted relationships.

This wrong can be righted, but it will take a concerted effort on the part of both women and men to accept a new "normal."

Normal should not be casual sex as THE major part of loving relationships.


5 posted on 01/15/2007 8:12:36 AM PST by fleagle
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To: shrinkermd
Google up her name, and you come across an article in Gawker:

"Born-again former groupie and author of The Thrill of the Chaste Dawn Eden is, stunningly, finding it a bit tough to locate the special someone who deserves her regrown ladytreasure. The problem? Even though "[celibacy] is a state of grace, where nothing penetrates you," sometimes things can get a little out of hand: "Kissing happens." It happens but rarely, though: Dawn does date, but "not very often. And not in a while." So has she been, you know, taking care of her own needs? GOD, no! "From the beginning, when I first started masturbating I always felt depressed afterward. As I drew closer to Catholicism I realized that masturbation was against my faith."

Kissing happens?? I should hope so! Seems that this born again virgin is under the influence of an extremely restrictive religion, and really won't feel happy until we all do like she does.

My name for this kind of person? Neoprude.

6 posted on 01/15/2007 8:12:54 AM PST by hunter112
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To: shrinkermd

Can someone really be named "Dawn Eden"?


7 posted on 01/15/2007 8:13:14 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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Those Brits are all Bangers and Mash.


8 posted on 01/15/2007 8:14:57 AM PST by Stallone (War and Politics: When the Enemy begins to feel pain, they change their behavior to avoid it.)
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I am 37, and like millions of other girls, was born into a world which encouraged young women to explore their sexuality.

And the NEA fights hard to exclude suggesting that 13-year olds wait for sex from sex education.

9 posted on 01/15/2007 8:15:00 AM PST by Always Right
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This unfortunate girl is finding out what so many have:

Sex is precious, not something to be shared with hundreds of other people.

Our ancestors, who appear to us to be so prudish, knew far more than some of us do. There are sound reasons for our traditional proscriptions on casual sex, ranging from moral reasons to the acknowledgement of female psychology to the best interests of children to the preservation of society.

All that said, I'm glad Dawn found Christ. She may never find a husband, but she has the best Husband of all.

10 posted on 01/15/2007 8:15:09 AM PST by Fairview
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I think this saying, which I heard years ago, is generally true - "men give love to get sex, women give sex to get love." Of course sometimes two people meet at the right time and the right place and they click and can build a mutually loving and equal relationship, regardless of whether they engaged in sex at the get-go. But overall, I think for women, so-called casual sex is an empty experience.

I totally agree that the 60's were very poisonous to male-female relationships, and posted that here recently, on a thread about the 60's. Women who grew up in that era were sold a bill of goods.

11 posted on 01/15/2007 8:15:33 AM PST by veronica (http://images20.fotki.com/v360/photos/1/106521/3848737/gladysPSCP-vi.jpg)
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WOW, what a fascinating piece. I admire her! She finally got it right!


14 posted on 01/15/2007 8:17:09 AM PST by Dudoight
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"I learnt from my sister and my mother that a woman can be intelligent and beautiful and yet have a difficult time meeting a responsible, gentlemanly man who wishes to be married for life. This was the 1970s and early 1980s, the age of the Sensitive New Age Guy or aptly named “snag”. My mother attracted them because she was new age herself, doing kundalini yoga and attending lectures by various gurus. "

Sounds like her mother was just another hippie. No wonder this woman grew up thinking like she does. With different (and conservative) parents, I'm sure Rachel Corrie would still be alive today instead of food for the bugs.
15 posted on 01/15/2007 8:17:17 AM PST by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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“100 new sex tricks”

As we throw out the bathwater of casual sex, let's try hard to retain these 100 sex tricks, please.


18 posted on 01/15/2007 8:18:56 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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Let me esplain the real facts of life; Many men are happy to find a slut, but never want to marry one. Double standard? Yup, but still a fact of life.


19 posted on 01/15/2007 8:19:19 AM PST by umgud (The profound is only so to those that it is.)
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21 posted on 01/15/2007 8:21:01 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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I'm the same age as the author and that was NOT the world I was born into. There's no doubt women are different and do, indeed, want to 'bond'.

What I'm discovering is there is a large number of divorced women in their 30s who are enjoying the single life while sharing custody of their kids with their ex's. It's the best of both worlds for them... they have children, but are free from the restraints of marriage. This freedom lets them party like there's no tomorrow, especially on the weekends the kids are with dad. It's like a social pack of divorced women who go out and get drunk with each other, every other weekend. Seriously. I find it amusing yet kinda disturbing.

Are there women who marry for the sole purpose of procreating, then ultimately divorce to enjoy the single life again?

24 posted on 01/15/2007 8:23:14 AM PST by rintense (Just say no to McCain in 2008!)
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I just missed coming of age in the sixties. Thank goodness!

Marriage has always been more of an economic relationship through history rather than love. The idea that the partners need to be in love is a rather new idea. The idea that one marries only for love has usually been considered foolish until the last century. To this day it doesn't guarantee success.

Marriages were formed for political and econimic gain as well as to make certain that the product of the marriage - the support and inheritance claims (children) were controlled. One had to know who the father was so he would support the child and endow it. Therefore the sexual activities of the woman had to be controlled. DNA is a rather new device.

Since the advent of "romantic love" as the primary reason for marriage the unspoken dictum has been "if you want her, marry her." Since the male initiates the choice and the woman's consent is a response - he has to want her enough to make that initial proposition. It's no longer a negotiation between the young couple's parents.

The "free love" of the Baby Boomers eviserated the need for a choice on either side. It make love into sex without love. Temporary passion is not love - it's sex.

My mother's message to me was: keep yourself worthy of a worthy man. (It worked wonderfully!)

As Laura Schlesinger says living together is not marriage - it's being an unpaid whore.

Of course this "onus" on the woman is considered grossly unfair to the woman as well as anachronistic by the feminists. However, people are people the feminists notwithstanding. The basic human responses haven't changed.

If you give it away freely, it's not worth much.


25 posted on 01/15/2007 8:24:24 AM PST by Basheva
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Women are different from men. Men are capable of having sex without emotional involvement. Few women are capable of having sex without some feelings for a man getting in the way. That's why a one night stand rarely brings the kind of satisfaction for a woman as it would for a man and why the aftermath of casual sex leaves her feeling cheated and used.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

31 posted on 01/15/2007 8:28:12 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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This woman must be stopped.


35 posted on 01/15/2007 8:34:13 AM PST by Texas Federalist (Gingrich '08)
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The Dawn Patrol
37 posted on 01/15/2007 8:35:07 AM PST by Regulator
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