[stuartcr]

He may as well retire and apply for a job at Home Depot.

[DrGunsforHands]

Don't they have safety lines? Or did the sub go under while they up top?

[Danae]

Same thing happened when my husband was on board the USS Grant, two officers died after replacing to non-coms who were ordered to go above and secure a hatch latch in a sea state 5. The Officers died and the Capitan was court Marshaled. They were tied to the ship and the enrtire crew had to listen to the bodies hit the hull until they could be retrieved. That is likely similar to what happened in this case. It's criminal negligence on the part of the Captain.

[Non-Sequitur]

I'm sure the captain is beating himself up over the loss of the men worse than anything the NJP could do.

[taxcontrol]

I'm an Army guy so I don't understand Navy mentality sometimes. Can someone explain to me what the officer did wrong? Sounds to me like the crew were following safety procedures with having their safety lines.

I don't get it.

[ArrogantBustard]

This is all very interesting ... Now:

1) What did the CO and Exec do wrong?

1a) What, if anything, did the deceased sailors do wrong?

2) What should future COs and Execs do in order to avoid this sort of problem?

[greasepaint]

was the sub's CO, on the 'outside',
when this happened?

[Al Gator]

When this story broke, I predicted this outcome. Some disagreed:

"To: Al Gator ' Some one will lose a commission over this.'

Unless they dove while people were up top, I doubt it. Man Overboard should not kill careers. 9 posted on 12/29/2006 1:00:19 PM EST by xxxxxxx2000

You don't lose guys over the side like this and keep your job.

[bmwcyle]

Water is a powerful thing. Our sub went to sea and we could not close the upper weapons shipping hatch due to ruff seas. We had a diver washed over but recovered and a chief had two lines hooked together. He was going down the side of the sail and a wave took him off the ladder. The next wave came by and as the water receded, he was hanging back on the ladder.

[stinkerpot65]

Our entire military command is a gutless, politically correct joke.