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You sound sort of a like a dem, who thinks it is important to emphasize that some plans by the MILITARY did not work...and that SO FAR we haven't found the WMD...

So...therefore, it is okay to bash the POTUS/CIC while we are in the middle of the war....

How can you or anyone saying, "na, na..I was right the POTUS was wrong"...helpful?? How does that keep our troops' morale high....or our country safer??

How do you know that just because we didn't find the WMD's "stockpiles"...that the weren't/aren't there?? That is a hugh country..and we are still finding weapons caches.

How do you know that since it took so long for the war to START after everyone in the ME knew we were going to invade...the WMDS weren't moved??

How do you know that part of the problem wasn't what Tommy Franks said...when he said that the USA was a victim of it's own success...we were so successful, so quickly, at the start...took Baghdad so quickly...

That we were caught in the vaccum that was a quick VICTORY!!

All I am saying is....why do posters feel the necessity to be negative about the PAST...and blame Pres. Bush for MILITARY tactics and strategys??? Would you want someone like Hillary or Osama Obama questioning Gen. Petraeus' military knowledge..and have one of them tell him he doesn't know how to run a war????

My concerns about the lack of WMD was prior to the invasion. But I don't want to focus on that, because as you state, it turns this into trying to defend ones political affiliation vs the facts of as they unfolded.

What I can point to is the President has now admitted his "Bring them on" statement was not helpful, despite many from this forum being extremely critical of anyone who was concerned about that comment. From that point forward, it seems that much of the execution of the WOT has been fraught with miscalculations, error and poorly perceived outcomes. Yet anyone who suggested otherwise was labeled a democrat, liberal or any other of a 1000 derogatory names.

Virtually no one has suggested that there have been noaccomplishments in Iraq. But anyone looking at the key outcomes would have to admit to date it has been anywhere close to where anyone expected, here or in the administration. Until the President admitted this the other day, there was a chorus of those who jumped on anyone who suggested otherwise using the name calling and other technics to dispirit and discredit. Instead of saying some of us were right, we hit with the President is man enough to admit mistakes took place. Where was he during the Bring them on debates?