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WOT - Moscow Cell Phone Service Shut down in Subways
St.Petersburg Times/AP ^ | 01-18-2007 | Milwaukee_Guy

Posted on 01/18/2007 7:08:03 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy

Security Stepped Up After Terrorist Threat

Excerpt

In Moscow, which was last hit by terrorist attacks in 2004, officials took the unusual step of ordering cell phone service shut off in the subway system. The measure appeared to be an effort to avert the possibility of explosives being detonated by the phones.

Full article: http://www.times.spb.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=20075

(Excerpt) Read more at times.spb.ru ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dot; russia; security; terrorattack; waronteror; wot
Never heard of this being done anywhere before. Apparently they have "repeater" antennas in the subway to improve reception. Would be easy to turn off only subway cell phone service by turning off those underground relay antennas.
1 posted on 01/18/2007 7:08:05 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

This makes me believe the Rusko's have some specific knowledge of the threat. For all their faults, those old commies know how to gather intel.


2 posted on 01/18/2007 7:15:18 PM PST by highimpact
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To: highimpact

Torture works


3 posted on 01/18/2007 7:17:45 PM PST by sine_nomine (The United States...shall protect each of them against invasion. Article IV, 4. US Constition)
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To: highimpact

Given Russia's past, they may be a little more "flexible" when it comes to gathering information. :-O


4 posted on 01/18/2007 7:17:46 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

I'd like to see cell service shut down in a lot of places simply due to the lack of manners most people seem to have.


5 posted on 01/18/2007 7:19:44 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

"(MOSNEWS) — RUSSIA'S three leading mobile phone operators have suspended services in the the Moscow metro, the RIA Novosti news agency reported Wednesday.

The reason of suspending has not been stated yet but company representatives unofficially said the move was connected to a possible terrorist threat.

Earlier it was reported that Russian Federal Security Service had obtained a report from foreign sources of a possible terrorist plot to attack ground transport and one of the country’s subway systems.

Services in the metro are to be resumed 12 a.m. Thursday if there are no additional recommendations from authorities."


6 posted on 01/18/2007 7:21:35 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

Jack Bauer is on the case.


7 posted on 01/18/2007 7:29:15 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
"repeater" antennas

I wondered about that. Thanks for the explanation.

8 posted on 01/18/2007 7:30:44 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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Speculation on my part. But being an Amateur Radio Operator I would strongly suspect that a relay/repeater system would be employed to provide a decent signal while deep underground.

Doesn't explain how the security forces would communicate during an emergency while underground.

VHF/UHF handheld radios would be marginal in a subway.
9 posted on 01/18/2007 7:35:11 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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Couldn't/wouldn't there be separate repeaters for GSM frequencies and VHF/UHF frequencies?


10 posted on 01/18/2007 7:37:04 PM PST by Tree of Liberty (Islam delenda est)
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To: cripplecreek

"I'd like to see cell service shut down in a lot of places simply due to the lack of manners most people seem to have."

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11 posted on 01/18/2007 7:38:08 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Tree of Liberty

"Couldn't/wouldn't there be separate repeaters for GSM frequencies and VHF/UHF frequencies?"

You are correct. I was presuming that the emergency services would also be using cell phones while underground.

A seperate relay system for UHF/VHF is very likely.


12 posted on 01/18/2007 7:40:48 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
Moscow Cell Phone Service Shut down in Subways

Interesting. I know there are jammers that can be used to block cell phone service inside a building, but here, the FCC won't allow them. Frankly, in places like subways, I don't have a problem with blocking service since cell phone triggers are one of the Islamonazis favorite toys and even without a threat, it will save 95% of the passengers from the ultra rude 5% yacking away in their ears.

13 posted on 01/18/2007 8:10:09 PM PST by Ditto
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School riots Milwaukee due to cell phones,

"...After a series of violent events at Bradley Tech High School where people used cell phones to get others involved in the fights, Milwaukee Public Schools is now heavily enforcing a ban on cell phones in schools.

MPS rules already tell students not to carry cell phones during the school day, but students often disregard those rules.

Superintendent William Andrekopolous also explained that if a student makes a call to someone outside the school and the situation threatens someone's safety, the student will be expelled.

Serious fights happened twice at Bradley Tech High School because people used cell phones to call in for help in those tussles.

Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm explains that if a similar incident happens again at an MPS school, those involved will receive felony charges...."


14 posted on 01/18/2007 8:19:04 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
I seem to recall reading of a Japanese firm that marketed a "jammer" (not in the US) that could kill signals inside restaurants, churches, movie theatres, etc.

If they can (jam), they certainly should!
15 posted on 01/18/2007 8:20:31 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

bkarmk


16 posted on 01/18/2007 8:20:37 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks

?


17 posted on 01/18/2007 8:22:45 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: rockrr

And that's what I get for chiming in before I've read all the posts ;'}


18 posted on 01/18/2007 8:28:41 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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Superintendent William Andrekopolous also explained that if a student makes a call to someone outside the school and the situation threatens someone's safety, the student will be expelled.

I wonder what 'expelled' means anymore. When I was in high school, being expelled meant the end of your involvement with the public school system. It only happened to students age 16 and over (you could also drop out at age 16 under state law) and you were then on your own. I had several friends expelled (only one for taking a swing at a male teacher --- he missed) most often for truancy. If you were deemed 'incorrigible' under the age of 16, they sent you to "reform school" -- junior prison -- until you were 16.

I don't know how they handle this stuff today.

19 posted on 01/18/2007 8:30:59 PM PST by Ditto
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Im Milwaukee "expelled" means you get moved to another MPS school.


20 posted on 01/18/2007 8:33:00 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: rockrr

Imagine the whining, here in the US, if a security situation forced cell phone traffic to be temporarily suspended.

At least it would be good "heads up" that something was going on.


21 posted on 01/18/2007 8:37:47 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

That's what I figured.


22 posted on 01/18/2007 8:49:27 PM PST by Ditto
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Imagine the whining, here in the US, if a security situation forced cell phone traffic to be temporarily suspended.

I can imagine it happening (for good reason) and I can also predict that it would spark an epidemic of aneurysms among the 5% cell phone addicted population.

Maybe a good way to cull the gene pool. ;~))

23 posted on 01/18/2007 8:54:26 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
Actually, this step was taken because of the increasing use of stupid ringtones. I just came out of a meeting that was interrupted in mid-presentation by a loud, tinny rendition of the 'Star Wars' theme.
24 posted on 01/18/2007 9:46:04 PM PST by BlazingArizona (co)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

The Moscow metros have been on high alert all week.


25 posted on 01/18/2007 10:27:32 PM PST by jer33 3
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
Never heard of this being done anywhere before.

Seeing as how cellphones are used as detonating devices, I'm not surprised.

26 posted on 01/19/2007 12:32:38 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

that was supposed to be 'bookmark'. bookmarking this thread for later read and possible libertarian ping. :)


27 posted on 01/19/2007 11:55:13 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

In central Moscow the earliest [and the deepest] parts of the subway system are something like 150+ feet below the surface. Towards the city periphery the subway tunnels become shallower, and in many peripheral parts the subway is no longer SUB-, but the trains run on surface, and thus would remain fully vulnerable.


28 posted on 01/19/2007 2:02:37 PM PST by GSlob
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To: highimpact

Nothing is easier than to uncover a conspiracy one had organized, manufactured or invented oneself.


29 posted on 01/19/2007 2:05:32 PM PST by GSlob
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