Posted on 01/19/2007 8:39:00 AM PST by RKV
To me this guy is starting to sound like a new Herbert Walker Bush, a decent enough, competent enough man, with no firm beliefs.
For those of us that remember how bad Herbert Bush was, we know it is much worse than people say, because the quality of the personal man makes it too hard to vent on him, in the way that he really deserves.
One reason to support Mitt Romney
http://www.roseanneworld.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2346
Roseanne Barr
Let's turn our attentions to the following, instead of faulting each other.....
Mitt Romney is the devil himself, and the church has been working for forty years to elect one of its own to the highest office of this country, while trying to keep things hush hush about its practices of plural and child marriage... mitt romney's temple vows are to uphold plural (child) marriage in heaven, even if prevented from doing so on earth. These are the people who oppose gay marriage too, by the way, I believe as a red herring to keep their own version of 72 virgins in heaven (multiple wives) out of the public eye. They began their anti gay marriage drive when women polygamists starting speaking up about the reality of living in Utah and Wyoming and anywhere else in the west where mormons rule. I believe they oppose gay marriage because the term CONSENTING ADULTS would be in its definition, thereby committing to law that to marry a MINOR would for once be a punishable infraction in Mormon held states. Mormons still want to marry their youngest nieces, ( age 8 ) exactly like their taliban twins do. The Mormons are the most fundamental of all the fundamentalists on earth.. they put the MENTAL in fundamental...Only fifteen years ago they agreed that blacks are human and they still think that all jews need to die to bring christ's return... a horrifying hoax of a crusade against islam and judaism, and actually christianity too... they own almost all of ITT, almost every insurance company in america, and thousands upon thousands of companies that give money to anti-feminist anti democratic groups in this country and around the world. Their worst nightmare is equality and birth control for women. They believe that they are called to "save" America from jews, gays, and leftists. They gave the most money to the evangelical movement, which was spawned by their experiments on gay boys at byu in the 60-70's...watch clockwork orange, this is what they did to gay boys... and they also kick out their gay sons at age 13 to live on the streets, where a large majority end up as child prostitutes..(according to some of them, their biggest clientele is Mormon men).. It is the sickest thing on this earth, and if that was not enough, most of the aryan nations and american nazi movements are manned by mormons too.
Spread the mitt romney word, because it will really be too late if he is allowed to go mainstream any more than he has already.
If she's against him, he must be doing something right.
Uhh, Arnold made certain campaign promises then didnt' follow through on them. I'm glad I voted for McClintock.
Yes, of course. Other wise we are saying it's OK for you to 1) survey us 2) tell us what we want to hear 3) win the election 4) govern based on how you really feel not what you told us to get elected.
Bush ran as a fiscal conservative. Anyone seen any sign of that?
The enemy of my enemy isn't necessarily my friend. As much as I dislike Ms. Barr, nothing in Romney's record (as opposed to his rhetoric) really strikes me as warranting my support.
What's your point?
My point was Arnold had no record to tell us of what kind of Governor he was going to be. Romney does have a record telling us what kind of President he'd be.
Apparently, if his record is any indication, he'd cut spending and get rid of deficits without raising taxes, fight stem-cell research and fight gay marriage.
Dear LtdGovt,
With Mr. Romney, I might get 70%.
Or I might get 7%.
I dunno.
It depends on which Mr. Romney shows up for work:
- the adamant, principled pro-abort who told us in 1994 that he'd been a pro-abort for decades because abortion is a constitutional right, and it should be "a woman's choice, not the government's," and who reiterated this position when running for governor in 2002, or the fellow who says now that he's a pro-lifer;
- the fellow who was foursquare for gun control, or the guy who now brags about his NRA membership;
- the guy who backed ENDA (special rights for homosexuals) or the guy who now says ENDA goes too far;
- the guy who said signing a no tax-hike pledge was a gimmick, or the guy who signed a no tax-hike pledge.
I think I'll pass.
sitetsest
"Bush ran as a fiscal conservative. Anyone seen any sign of that?"
I think somebody forgot to tell him that his veto pen worked on spending bills.
BS. Go read the voluminous materials at the link I provided. Willard Mitt got more of the Left's agenda through in MA than any Democrat could have ever dreamed of implementing. He's an utter fraud, and every conservative who doesn't willfully have blinders on is figuring that out.
I can only think of one politician that was a slicker liar than Romney, and his initials are WJC.
Dear dirtboy,
"I also prefer conservative epiphanies that do not coincide with a campaign for a new office."
ROTFLMAO!!
If I didn't like my current tagline so much, I'd ask permission to use that one. ;-)
sitetest
He sure does. His record tells me that he'd be the most liberal POTUS in the history of the republic.
McCain: No conservative on social issues
John McCain Opposes A Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriages:
Sen. John McCain: "I oppose the constitutional amendment to ban gay marriages…" (CBS' "Face The Nation," 8/29/04)
McCain, Like Democrats And The Mainstream Media, Believes Conservatives Are Intolerant On Gay Marriage. MCCAIN: "I hope that we are trying to send a message of inclusion and tolerance in our party. I oppose the constitutional amendment to ban gay marriages …" (CBS' "Face The Nation," 8/29/04)
In 2004, McCain Broke With Republicans And Voted With Sens. Hillary Clinton And Ted Kennedy Against A Same-Sex Marriage Ban. 45 Republican and 3 Democrat Senators voted for the ban that McCain voted against. (S. J. Res. 40, CQ Vote #155: Motion Rejected 48-50: R 45-6; D 3-43; I 0-1, 7/14/04, McCain Voted Nay)
McCain Said The Same-Sex Marriage Ban Was Against "The Core Philosophy Of Republicans." ("McCain: Same-Sex Marriage Ban Is Un-Republican," CNN.com, 7/14/04)
McCain Said There Was No "Urgent Need To Act." "Many, if not most, Americans have reasoned that there is no overriding urgent need to act at this time. And they are right to do so. The legal definition of marriage has always been left to the states to decide, in accordance with the prevailing standards of their neighborhoods and communities." (Sen. John McCain, Congressional Record, pp. S7998-7999, 7/13/04)
John McCain Recently Said He Supports Gay Marriage:
McCain Recently Said "I Think That Gay Marriage Should Be Allowed If There Is A Ceremony Kind Of Thing." MSNBC's CHRIS MATTHEWS: "Should gay marriage be allowed?" SEN. JOHN MCCAIN: "I think that gay marriage should be allowed if there is a ceremony kind of thing, if you want to call it that. I don't have any problem with that." (MSNBC's "Hardball," 10/18/06)
Click Here To View McCain On MSNBC's "Hardball":
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub338saBToc
McCain Gets Testy When Confronted With His Conflicting Positions. MCCAIN: "I just want to point out again; I believe that gay marriage should not be legal. Okay? But I don't believe that we should discriminate against any American because that's not the nature of America. Okay?" (ABC's "This Week With George Stephanopoulos," 11/19/06)
One Gay Activist In Arizona Said McCain Changes His Positions Because He's Running For President "In Places Like South Carolina And Louisiana." "The Arizona Human Rights Fund is fighting the [Arizona same-sex marriage] amendment. Co-chair Steve May said McCain is doing what he has to do politically in part because he's likely going to run for president in 2008. May said McCain's 'endorsement of issues that many Arizonans consider extreme is understandable in light of the fact that he is also running for the nomination in places like South Carolina and Louisiana.'" (The Advocate Website, www.advocate.com http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid20099.asp, Accessed 12/9/06)
In December 2006, A Gay Newspaper The Advocate, Called McCain A "Notoriously Pro-Gay Republican U.S. Senator." (The Advocate Website, www.advocate.com http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid20099.asp, Accessed 12/9/06)
John McCain Believes Gay Marriage Initiatives Are "Better Left Off The Ballot":
In 2000, McCain Said A CA Ballot Initiative Defining Marriage As Between A Woman And Man Would Be "Better Left Off The Ballot." "The San Francisco Examiner (3/1, Ginsburg) reported McCain 'had difficulty elaborating about his conservative philosophy on some of the most prickly social issues of the campaign.' Asked about Proposition 22, the so-called Knight initiative 'that would define marriage as between a man and a woman, McCain said the issue would be "better left off the ballot."'" ("California Campaign Update," The Bulletin's Frontrunner, 3/2/00)
In 2000, McCain Said No Harm Would Come From Legalizing Gay Marriages. "When 'asked what harm would come from legally recognizing gay marriages, [McCain] said, "None at all."'" ("California Campaign Update," The Bulletin's Frontrunner , 3/2/00)
Many States Have Passed Gay Marriage Bans By Wide Margins:
1998: Alaska 68%
2000: California 61%; Nebraska 70%; Nevada 70%
2002: Nevada 67%
2004: Arkansas 75%;
Georgia 76%;
Kentucky 75%;
Louisiana 78%;
Michigan 59%;
Mississippi 86%;
Missouri 71%;
Montana 67%;
N. Dakota 73%;
Ohio 62%;
Oklahoma 76%;
Oregon 57%;
Utah 66%
2005: Kansas 70%
2006: Alabama 82%;
Colorado 56%;
Idaho 63%;
South Carolina 78%;
South Dakota 52%;
Tennessee 81%;
Virginia 57%;
Wisconsin 59%
(Thomas Frank, "Same-Sex Marriage Returns To Ballot, As Voters' Moods Change," USA Today, 10/24/06; CNN Website, www.cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/ballot.measures/, Accessed 12/9/06)
McCain Attacks Christian Leaders:
In A Blistering 2000 Speech, McCain Attacked Christian Conservatives. "Taking his presidential campaign to a stronghold of Christian conservatism, Senator John McCain of Arizona delivered a harsh attack today on the 'self-appointed leaders' of the religious right, depicting them as intolerant empire builders who 'have turned good causes into businesses' while trying to exclude all but 'card-carrying Republicans' from the party." (David Barstow, "McCain Denounces Political Tactics Of Christian Right," The New York Times, 2/29/00)
McCain Compared Pat Robertson To "'Union Bosses Who Have Subordinated The Interests Of Working Families To Their Own Ambitions." "Mr. McCain singled out for criticism two of the Christian right's best-known leaders, Pat Robertson, the founder of the Christian Coalition, and the Rev. Jerry Falwell, the founder of the Moral Majority. He compared Mr. Robertson to 'union bosses who have subordinated the interests of working families to their own ambitions,' and he accused both men of trying to distort his opposition to abortion and 'smear the reputations of my supporters.'" (David Barstow, "McCain Denounces Political Tactics Of Christian Right," The New York Times, 2/29/00)
McCain Condemned Evangelical Leaders As "Corrupting Influences." "'The politics of division and slander are not our values,' Mr. McCain said in a somber address to some 4,000 people who packed a high school gymnasium here only a few miles from the headquarters of the Christian Coalition. 'They are corrupting influences on religion and politics, and those who practice them in the name of religion or in the name of the Republican Party or in the name of America shame our faith, our party and our country.'" (David Barstow, "McCain Denounces Political Tactics Of Christian Right," The New York Times, 2/29/00)
McCain Compared Falwell And Robertson To Farrakhan, Calling Them "Agents Of Intolerance." "'Neither party,' Mr. McCain said in his speech, 'should be defined by pandering to the outer reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance, whether they be Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton on the left, or Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell on the right.'" (David Barstow, "McCain Denounces Political Tactics Of Christian Right," The New York Times, 2/29/00)
"'Political Intolerance By Any Political Party Is Neither A Judeo-Christian Nor An American Value,' [McCain] Said." (David Barstow, "McCain Denounces Political Tactics Of Christian Right," The New York Times , 2/29/00)
McCain Said The Republican Party Is Not The Part Of Pat Robertson Or Bob Jones. "'We are the party of Ronald Reagan not Pat Robertson,' Mr. McCain said in his speech. 'We are the party of Theodore Roosevelt not the party of special interests. We are the party of Abraham Lincoln not Bob Jones. Join us. Join us.'" (David Barstow, "McCain Denounces Political Tactics Of Christian Right," The New York Times, 2/29/00)
McCain Continued His Attacks, Calling Robertson And Falwell "Evil." "Senator John McCain intensified the battle over the political power of the religious right today as he accused Pat Robertson and the Rev. Jerry Falwell of having an 'evil influence' over the Republican Party." (David Barstow, "McCain, in Further Attack, Calls Leaders of Christian Right 'Evil'," The New York Times, 3/1/00)
Southern Baptist Convention President Dr. Paige Patterson: "'Mr. McCain's Remarks Are Irresponsible." "'Mr. McCain's remarks are irresponsible,' said Dr. Paige Patterson, the president of the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest Protestant denomination, with 14 million members. 'And I would say if he wins the primary, they are the remarks of a man who apparently doesn't want to be president of the United States, because it's difficult for me to believe that a Republican can win the election while deliberately abusing a considerable segment of the Republican Party.'" (Kevin Sack, "Remarks Rally Christian Right Against McCain," The New York Times, 3/3/00)
Focus On The Family's Dr. James Dobson: "Speaking As A Private Individual, I Would Not Vote For John McCain Under Any Circumstances" (KCBI 90.9 FM's "Jerry Johnson Live," www.jerryjohnsonlive.com/%28Dobson_on_McCain%29.mp3 http://www.jerryjohnsonlive.com/%28Dobson_on_McCain%29.mp3, Accessed 1/15/07)
McCain Is Wrong On A Host Of Issues Important To Social Conservatives:
McCain Voted To Allow Federal Funding For Research On Stem Cells Derived From Human Embryos. (H.R. 810, CQ Vote #206: Passed 63-37: R 19-36; D 43-1; I 1-0, 6/7/06, McCain Voted Yea)
McCain "Enraged Republicans" In 2005 By Join The "Gang Of 14" To Prevent Ending The Filibuster Of President Bush's Judges. "Sen. John McCain has once again enraged Republicans by publicly opposing Majority Leader Bill Frist's plan to employ the so-called nuclear option for ending the filibusters against President Bush's judicial nominees." (Charles Hurt, "McCain Irks Republicans Over Anti-Filibuster Option," The Washington Times, 4/16/05)
McCain Won't Talk Straight About Creation Or Intelligent Design. "Nor, presumably, was it straight talk last summer at an Aspen Institute discussion when McCain struggled to articulate his position on the teaching of intelligent design in public schools. At first, according to two people who were present, McCain said he believed that intelligent design, which proponents portray as a more intellectually respectable version of biblical creationism, should be taught in science classes. But then, in the face of intense skepticism from his listeners, he kept modifying his views—going into reverse evolution." (Todd S. Purdum, "Prisoner Of Conscience," Vanity Fair, 2/07)
George Will: McCain-Feingold Legislation Helped Democrats. George Will: "[I]n 2004 Democrats were more successful than Republicans in using so-called 527 organizations – advocacy groups named after the tax code provision governing them. In 2002 Congress passed the McCain-Feingold legislation banning large 'soft money' contributions for parties – money for issue-advocacy and organizational activities, not for candidates. In 2004, to the surprise of no sensible person and most McCain-Feingold supporters, much of the money – especially huge contributions from rich liberals – was diverted to 527s." (George Will, "The GOP's Betrayal On Speech," The Washington Post, 4/16/06)
Focus On The Family's Dr. James Dobson: "The McCain Feingold Bill Kept Us From Telling The Truth Right Before Elections." (KCBI 90.9 FM's "Jerry Johnson Live," www.jerryjohnsonlive.com/%28Dobson_on_McCain%29.mp3 , Accessed 1/15/07)
"What sane man would let another man's words rather than his deeds tell him who is at war and who is at peace with him?" Demosthenes
Romney has, by and large, governed as a conservative. He cut more government jobs then any other state in the country in 2003. He cut more then 1.6 billion in spending, and proceeded to keep annual increases below 2.5% for 3 of his 4 years. He vetoed a fetal farming bill, an embryonic cloning bill, and an expansion of plan B contraception. He promoted abstinence education programs and worked to re-instate the death penalty. And, perhaps most significantly, he played the lead role in advancing the anti-gay marriage ballot proposition which is now but one step from appearing on the 2008 ballot. There are certainly areas of concern in his record. Gun control is one of them, but his position is substantively identical to president Bush's, but has been advanced in a substantially more hostile environment.
ROLFLMAO!!!!
Does anybody here take you even remotely seriously?
If so, do them a favor, and tell them to go back and graduate from the 4th grade first.
Your gums keep flapping, but you aren't saying anything.
This is yet another example of the kind of idiotic posts that have made you a Free Republic laughingstock.
Seriously? You're here supporting the biggest fraud with an (R) by his name, and you question my credibility? I've provided a voluminous record of Romney's hard left record, policy positions and words, and all you've provided are juvenile schoolyard taunts.
More liberal than FDR or Clinton? Hmmm, lemme ponder THAT one.
Looks like you've joined the other juveniles. Amazing what personal animosity will do to an otherwise adult person.
Got any facts on why any conservative with a brain would support Rudy McRomney.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.