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Obama 'was educated in madrassa'
The Times of London ^ | January 20, 2007 | Tim Reid and Tom Baldwin

Posted on 01/19/2007 7:52:42 PM PST by Torie

Obama 'was educated in madrassa'

Tim Reid and Tom Baldwin in Washington

# Senator hid time there, says article

# Clinton distances herself from claims

Barack Obama was given a rude awakening to the cut-throat world of presidential politics yesterday after being accused of hiding four years in which he was educated at a madrassa when a teenager.

The claim, made in the conservative Insight magazine, also revealed the Machiavellian scheming of political activists in a presidential race still nearly two years away.

It was aimed at tarnishing Mr Obama’s image in the week he announced himself as a White House contender. But the article also claimed that the madrassa allegations came from aides to Hillary Clinton, Mr Obama’s main opponent for the Democratic nomination.

This may be wishful thinking on behalf of Republicans. The Clinton camp is determined not to be accused of digging dirt on Mr Obama because they fear such tactics could backfire, given his popularity.

But the Insight allegations represent an exquisite double shot at the Democrats’ two leading White House contenders: it implies that Mr Obama, whose middle name is Hussein, is a closet Islamic extremist, and that Mrs Clinton is so rattled by his candidacy she is using underhand tactics to weaken him.

Mr Obama, who is expected to announce formally his candidacy on February 10, has never been subjected to the hardball tactics of the presidential arena — until yesterday. Last night an aide said that the campaign was working on a formal statement, but added that the claims were “not accurate”.

The online article begins: “Are the American people ready for an elected president who was educated in a madrassa as a young boy and has not been forthcoming about his Muslim heritage?” It continues: “This is the question Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s camp is asking about Senator Barack Obama.”

Mr Obama’s mother was a white woman from Kansas; his father, a black Kenyan Muslim. He states in his recent biography that he attended a predominately Muslim school when he lived in Jakarta as a teenager.

But the article claims: “In Indonesia, the young Obama was enrolled in a madrassa and was raised and educated as a Muslim.” It says that Mr Obama omitted to say in his memoir, or at any other time, that he attended the school for four years.

Mr Obama, who has spent his adult life in Chicago, calls himself a Christian and says that he believes in God. He attends a local church.

A source close to the Clinton campaign told The Times, a day before the Insight article was published, that they do not want to be seen as attacking Mr Obama or digging for dirt, but that they would be happy for another Democrat contender to criticise him.


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KEYWORDS: hillaryscandals; obama
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To: x
On the Islamic school thing, I don't think it matters unless it can be demonstrated that Obama affirmatively lied about it. Simply not mentioning it, I don't think quite rises to that level. Obama simply does not exude militant Islamic traits. This I doubt the disclosure will trigger alarm bells among swing voters.
141 posted on 01/20/2007 11:39:24 AM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
On another topic, do you think Clinton will be hurt by her saying "you know" in almost every sentence, and sometimes more than once in every sentence? It drives me nuts, but then I am not an "available" vote for her sitting out there on the Fruited Plain. Maybe her fans love this little habit of expression of hers. :)

Hillary has a lot of quirks that won't endear her to the average voter. She tends to talk down to people, and when she tries to come across as an average guy/gal it usually doesn't work.

Hillary always relied to Bill to "connect" with the average voter and never developed her own people skills very much.

The impression I get when I read "Obama to Run," "Obama to Run," "Obama to Run," "Hillary May Run, Too" isn't favorable to her hopes.

She must have been planning this for a long time, but it almost looks as though she's only getting in now to foil Obama, whose already taken away whatever support she'd have in Illinois as a native daughter.

142 posted on 01/20/2007 1:10:05 PM PST by x
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To: Beckwith

LOL


143 posted on 01/20/2007 2:10:10 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: nutmeg; HitmanLV; Torie
I'm glad the truth about Hussein Obama is coming out, and there's nothing more exquisite than having Hillary's people doing the digging, lol. Why not? We do that to our own and we usually go deeper, with a terrible habit of eating our own.

Obama is a Muslim. He can say whatever he wants and go to church for good political stature, but the fact remains that in the Arab world and under Sharia or Islamic law, if one is born from a Muslim father then he/she is Muslim. So despite what Obama says about being a Christian, he remains a Muslim in the eyes of the Arabs.

Obama's stepfather is also a Muslim, though according to Obama's bio his father and stepfather were both non-practicing Muslims... hmmm how convenient.

There is an article posted on FR 2 years ago about Obama's lies. Take a look, it is very interesting.

Here is part of the article:

"I feel sad having to expose Barack Obama," says Martin, "but the man is a complete fraud. The truth is going to surprise, and disappoint, and outrage many people who were drawn to him. He has lied to the American people, and he has sought to misrepresent his own heritage.

"Obama's life story is vastly different from the one he portrays. My point: if he will lie about his mother and father, what else is he lying about? Can we expect 'bimbo eruptions?'

"Fiction: Obama stated in his Convention speech: 'My father ... grew up herding goats.' The 'goat herder' claim has been repeated endlessly. It is a lie.
Fact: Obama's grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama was a prominent and wealthy farmer. His son, Obama's father, was a child of privilege, not privation. He was an outstanding student, not a herdsman.

"Fiction: Obama was given an 'African' name.
Fact: Obama is a Muslim who has concealed his religion. I am a strong supporter of the Muslim community, and I believe Muslims have been scapegoated. Obama has a great opportunity to be forthright. Instead, he has treated his Muslim heritage as a dark secret. His grandfather was named 'Hussein.' That is an Arabic-Muslim, not African, name. Hussein was a devout Muslim and named his son, Barack Senior, 'Baraka.' Baraka is an Arabic word meaning 'blessed.' Baraka comes out of the Koran and Arabic, not Africa.

If Obama lies about his heritage for political expedience, and while the war on terrorism is primarily a fight against Islamic extremists, how loyal would President Obama be to his own religious heritage?

144 posted on 01/20/2007 3:26:41 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

It's intriguing that the Hillary gang is the one going after Obama in this way. They must take him very seriously. Hilly's gang has no fear and they play to win. I admit, those are a couple of qualities I'd like to see more in the GOP.


145 posted on 01/20/2007 3:46:57 PM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: HitmanLV
I admit, those are a couple of qualities I'd like to see more in the GOP.

More than ever we need that badly.

146 posted on 01/20/2007 3:48:53 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: NormsRevenge

"John Fund of WSJ when interviewed on KSFO this morning said folks shouldn't go down this road re: madrassa.."

WHY NOT?

I like it.


147 posted on 01/20/2007 3:49:49 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: photodawg
But the article also claimed that the madrassa allegations came from aides to Hillary Clinton, Mr Obama’s main opponent for the Democratic nomination.

Nonsense, Obama said so himself in this Salon.com puff piece:

The new face of the Democratic Party -- and America
148 posted on 01/20/2007 4:18:08 PM PST by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: Torie

I think it's pretty apparent that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim who finds it politically expedient to pretend he is a Christian.


149 posted on 01/20/2007 4:20:36 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

I think that is spelled C-h-r-i-s L-e-h-a-n-e.


150 posted on 01/20/2007 4:20:54 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: zwerni
"I wish they would both take a flight over the former Yugoslavia..."

Pretend we have to make a choice. Hillary or Obama?

I'll take Obama.

sw

151 posted on 01/20/2007 4:24:00 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Torie

As more and more comes out about Obama, my opinion only -- he disappears from the race.

Not Arkancide, he just drops out and lays low.


152 posted on 01/20/2007 4:27:23 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: DouglasKC

The bulk of politicians I suspect find organized religion, and pretending to hew to one, an annoyance. Perhaps that is a case with a very substantial minority of American men in general.


153 posted on 01/20/2007 4:28:31 PM PST by Torie
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To: spectre

the devil you know (hillary), is better then the devil you don't know.


154 posted on 01/20/2007 4:29:59 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Now, I'm really confused...LOL!

sw

155 posted on 01/20/2007 4:46:55 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Cedar; Arizona Carolyn

Gonna be hard for him to justify this position if he gets the nomination.

I mean can you imagine him in a debate against a [hopefully] pro-life Rebublican having to defend his position of NOT wanting to treat babies who SURVIVED PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION??? Tough sell.


156 posted on 01/20/2007 5:41:17 PM PST by Caravaggio
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To: Caravaggio

If only the media actually covers it honestly and congress is trying to shut all of us up.


157 posted on 01/20/2007 7:45:43 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: nj26; All
once a (dirty) mooselim, always a (dirty) mooselim. It is in the koran that you need not be honest to a Jew or Christian. This makes them perfect democrats. Just because he says he's not a mooselim doesn't make it so.

what is your evidence to the contrary?
158 posted on 01/20/2007 8:26:50 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (proud sponsor of the "helmets for democrats" foundation)
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To: processing please hold

you're thinking of the other guy in MN.


159 posted on 01/20/2007 8:29:16 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (proud sponsor of the "helmets for democrats" foundation)
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To: mirkwood
If this secret society was really secret, we wouldn't know of it, would we?

conspiracy theories are the products of weak minds who want to abdicate all responsibility in their life.
160 posted on 01/20/2007 8:51:01 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (proud sponsor of the "helmets for democrats" foundation)
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