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"I'm In" (Hillary announces for president)
Hillary Clinton.com ^ | Jan 20, 2007 | Hillary

Posted on 01/20/2007 6:40:14 AM PST by tlb

I'm in. And I'm in to win.

Today I am announcing that I will form an exploratory committee to run for president.

And I want you to join me not just for the campaign but for a conversation about the future of our country -- about the bold but practical changes we need to overcome six years of Bush administration failures.

(Excerpt) Read more at hillaryclinton.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; bko; hillaryscandals; hillarythesis; hitlery; saulalinsky; ungh
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To: onyx
You're most welcome ... ;)

Saul Alinsky and the Lessons He Taught Bill and Hillary

She learned radical sociopathic manipulative subversion better than he. SHE IS TO BE FEARED.


241 posted on 01/21/2007 1:56:37 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: onyx

uH-oH ... 2 pt game ....whew


242 posted on 01/21/2007 1:57:26 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: onyx

Saul Alinsky: The American radical...

An inspiration to anyone contemplating action in their community!

Saul Alinski wrote the book on American radicalism - two books, in fact - a 1945 best-seller, "Reveille for Radicals" and "Rules for Radicals" in 1971. The "Reveille" title page quotes Thomas Paine...

"Let them call me rebel and welcome, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul."

Saul Alinsky, who was a labor and civil-rights activist from the 1910's until he died in 1972, has written here a guidebook for those who are out to change things. He sets down what the goal is: a society where people are free to live, and also aren't starving in the streets. A society where there is legal and economic justice. Then he sets out to say how to get there.

Alinsky spends a lot of time critiquing the idea that "The end does not justify the means." What end? What means? He feels that there are circumstances where one can and should use means that in other circumstances would be unethical. I am not sure I agree, but Alinsky certainly speaks with the voice of experience.

Alinsky's goal seems to be to encourage positive social change by equipping activists with a realistic view of the world, a kind of preemptive disillusionment. If a person already knows what evil the world is capable of, then perhaps the surprise factor can be eliminated, making the person a more effective activist. Alinsky further seems to be encouraging the budding activist not to worry to much about getting his or her hands dirty. It's all a part of the job, he seems to say.

Alinski, the master political agitator, tactical planner and social organizer didn't mince words ...

"Liberals in their meetings utter bold works; they strut, grimace belligerently, and then issue a weasel-worded statement 'which has tremendous implications, if read between the lines.' They sit calmly, dispassionately, studying the issue; judging both sides; they sit and still sit.

The Radical does not sit frozen by cold objectivity. He sees injustice and strikes at it with hot passion. He is a man of decision and action. There is a saying that the Liberal is one who walks out of the room when the argument turns into a fight.

Society has good reason to fear the Radical. Every shaking advance of mankind toward equality and justice has come from the Radical. He hits, he hurts, he is dangerous. Conservative interests know that while Liberals are most adept at breaking their own necks with their tongues, Radicals are most adept at breaking the necks of Conservatives.

Radicals precipitate the social crisis by action - by using power. Liberals may then timidly follow along or else, as in most cases, be swept forward along the course set by Radicals, but all because of forces unloosed by Radical action. They are forced to positive action only in spite of their desires ...
o The American Radical will fight privilege and power whether it be inherited or acquired by any small group, whether it be political or financial or organized creed.
o He curses a caste system which he recognizes despite all patriotic denials.
o He will fight conservatives whether they are business or labor leaders.
o He will fight any concentration of power hostile to a broad, popular democracy, whether he finds it in financial circles or in politics.
o The Radical recognizes that constant dissension and conflict is and has been the fire under the boiler of democracy. He firmly believes in that brave saying of a brave people, "Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
o The Radical may resort to the sword but when he does he is not filled with hatred against those individuals whom he attacks. He hates these individuals not as persons but as symbols representing ideas or interests which he believes to be inimical to the welfare of the people.
That is the reason why Radicals, although frequently embarking upon revolutions, have rarely resorted to personal terrorism."

Alinski practiced what he preached. He said ...

"Tactics means doing what you can with what you have ... tactics is the art of how to take and how to give."

He uses eyes, ears and nose for examples ...

Eyes -
"If you have a vast organization, parade it before the enemy, openly show your power."

Ears -
"If your organization is small, do what Gideon did: conceal the members in the dark but raise a clamor that will make the listener believe that your organization numbers many more that it does."

Nose -
"If your organization is too tiny even for noise, stink up the place."

Alinski devised and proved thirteen tactical rules for use against opponents vastly superior in power and wealth ...

1. "Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

2. Never go outside the experience of your people.

3. Wherever possible go outside of the experience of the enemy.

4. Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.

5. Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.

6. A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.

7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.

8. Keep the pressure on.

9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

10. Major premise for tactics is development of operations that will maintain constant pressure upon the opposition.

11. If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.

12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

The real action is in the enemy's reaction. The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength. Tactics, like life, require that you move with the action."

Alinski was hated and defamed by powerful enemies, proof that his tactics worked. His simple formula for success ...

"Agitate + Aggravate + Educate + Organize"
Location - http://www.gn.apc.org/pmhp/activism/salinsky.htm

14 Posted on 03/27/2000 19:58:35 PST by hope



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243 posted on 01/21/2007 1:57:53 PM PST by kcvl
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To: onyx; nopardons; Mo1; Howlin; doug from upland

Senator Clinton's 1969 Wellesley College honor's thesis, "There is only the fight: An analysis of the Alinsky model," is part of the collections in the Wellesley College Archives. The thesis is made available under the normal rules and procedures of the Wellesley College Archives. The thesis may be read in the Archives Reading Room. If one is unable to come to Wellesley College to read it, a microfilm copy of the thesis may be borrowed for a period of one month. Interested individuals can contact the Archives at 781-283-2128.

Mary Ann Hill
Dir. of Public Information & Gov't Relations

Mary Ann Hill
publicinfo@wellesley.edu


244 posted on 01/21/2007 2:00:33 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

I have just bookmarked this thread.

Thank you, kcvl!!!


245 posted on 01/21/2007 2:02:07 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: kcvl
It's now available?

Quick.........someone here get it and at least post snippets to FR! :-)

246 posted on 01/21/2007 2:02:20 PM PST by nopardons
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To: kcvl

We must publish it.


247 posted on 01/21/2007 2:05:48 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky .)
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To: My2Cents
They're agent provocateurs and/or mindless idiots, who claim to be Conservatives, but really aren't.

Anyone, ANYONE who will vote for a fringe candidate, write in some one, or stays home, in the up coming general election for president, in '08, is not only NOT a Conservative, but doesn't have any so called "principles" and HATES this country.

248 posted on 01/21/2007 2:07:32 PM PST by nopardons
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To: onyx; kcvl

"ALINSKY: In all the ways I've been talking about, from taxation to pollution.

The middle class actually feels more defeated and lost today on a wide range of issues than the poor do. And this creates a situation that's supercharged with both opportunity and danger.

There's a second revolution seething beneath the surface of middle-class America -- the revolution of a bewildered, frightened and as-yet-inarticulate group of desperate people groping for alternatives -- for hope.

Their fears and their frustrations over their impotence can turn into political paranoia and demonize them, driving them to the right, making them ripe for the plucking by some guy on horseback promising a return to the vanished verities of yesterday.

The right would give them scapegoats for their misery -- blacks, hippies, Communists -- and if it wins, this country will become the first totalitarian state with a national anthem celebrating "the land of the free and the home of the brave."

But we're not going to abandon the field to them without a long, hard fight -- a fight I think we're going to win.

Because we'll show the middle class their real enemies: the corporate power elite that runs and ruins the country -- the true beneficiaries of Nixon's so-called economic reforms. And when they swing their sights on that target, the sh-- will really hit the fan."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Interview with Saul Alinsky

http://www.progress.org/2003/alinsky3.htm


249 posted on 01/21/2007 2:08:30 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

YIKES !


250 posted on 01/21/2007 2:09:06 PM PST by nopardons
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To: kcvl

Brilliant Barbara............how our BKO is missed!


251 posted on 01/21/2007 2:10:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: STARWISE

BTTT


252 posted on 01/21/2007 2:19:18 PM PST by nopardons
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To: kcvl

BTTT


253 posted on 01/21/2007 2:20:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: STARWISE

BTTT


254 posted on 01/21/2007 2:21:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: onyx
the poster claimed Mitt is a dangerous man who will destroy the GOP and the country.

Most of these same posters will then show up on other threads declaring that the GOP is worthless, urging people to vote Constitution Party. Many of these people aren't even "Republican In Name."

255 posted on 01/21/2007 2:22:20 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: onyx; kcvl

Don't you think that Sandy Berger has already taken some of the most damaging pages and stuffed them under a trailer?


256 posted on 01/21/2007 2:23:39 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: kcvl
Archives. The thesis may be read in the Archives Reading Room. If one is unable to come to Wellesley College to read it, a microfilm copy of the thesis may be borrowed for a period of one month.

Huh???

I thought they put a block on her thesis from public view

257 posted on 01/21/2007 2:25:53 PM PST by Mo1 (Mrs. Bill Clinton - "We're going to take what you have and give it to others for the common good.")
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To: My2Cents
"It's just like deja vu all over again....Yogi."
258 posted on 01/21/2007 2:26:54 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky .)
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To: A Citizen Reporter; kcvl


Yes, indeed.


259 posted on 01/21/2007 2:27:43 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky .)
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To: STARWISE

Wait a minute. Is this her commencement address or her thesis?


260 posted on 01/21/2007 2:28:59 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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