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Morals, not a vaccine, needed in middle school
The Virginian Pilot ^ | 1/20/07 | Kerry Dougherty

Posted on 01/20/2007 12:54:51 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: steadfastconservative
It's troubling because it is based on the assumption that all 11-year old girls will soon be promiscuous and that, therefore, they must be vaccinated against this STD. It is also troubling because giving girls this vaccine is tacitly giving them permission to engage in immoral behavior.

So when you get your child immunized against hepatitus you're just encouraging them to be promiscuous and shoot up? Maybe it's just that we'd rather not see our daughters ever develop cervical cancer. According to the CDC more than half of adults develop genital warts during their lifetimes.

http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/STDFact-HPV-vaccine-hcp.htm

61 posted on 01/20/2007 4:20:32 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: brwnsuga

actually, Virginia's being conservative is a myth.

We have the "Kings Dominion Law" which won't allow public schools to open before Labor Day because it would cut into the workforce of its namesake park.

We have to pay a personal property tax on our autos year after year after year, tho a conservative Governor (Gilmore) tried to undo the tax. A Republican legislature made sure to keep it intact so it could be resurrected.

We 'share' revenues for schools so that the wealthier parishes in the northern part of the state pay for educating in other, less affluent, areas.

It goes on and on.


62 posted on 01/20/2007 4:23:23 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: wagglebee

Assembly woman Lieber {the *no spank* Dem.) is introducing AB 22 pupil immunizations: human papillomavirus vaccine legislation...Californians already have enacted into law..the right of minor to have an abortion without little/no parental notification.


63 posted on 01/20/2007 4:34:00 PM PST by Goldie Lurks (professional moonbat catcher)
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To: wagglebee
Abstinence before marriage followed by monogamy is 100% guaranteed to prevent ALL sexually transmitted diseases.

Wrong. Herpes can be transmitted without sexual contact. It can be spread with a kiss.

64 posted on 01/20/2007 4:39:27 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: 4Liberty
Actually, dog - "libertarian leaning conservatives are becoming "... well, LIBERTARIANS.

Not Democrats! (sheesh, where did you get THAT from?)

From the fact that a lot more self-described Libertarians voted D in 2006 then in any election in recent history.

65 posted on 01/20/2007 5:26:24 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: wagglebee

Abstinence before marriage followed by monogamy is 100% guaranteed to prevent ALL sexually transmitted diseases.



Not if you're molested or raped.


66 posted on 01/20/2007 6:26:44 PM PST by countreegurl
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To: zbigreddogz
This is the problem that the new breed of social conservatives don't seem to get. They seem to think of the government ever, at any point, might theoretically have to pay for the ills caused by social behavior, they have the right to regulate it. We use to call those people liberals...

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Indeed we did, and still do.

It might be, and probably would be my decision to vaccinate my hypothetical teenage daughter. That would be up to me. To allow the government to make that choice is abhorrent to me. It is simply unacceptable.

67 posted on 01/20/2007 9:06:45 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: steadfastconservative

The local news discussed this issue earlier tonight.

One of the reporterettes stated that the vaccine was for "women aged 9 to 26 years old". I turned to my husband and said, "what the hell? are nine year old girls considered women now?"

Later on, I wondered just who is sexualizing our children to the point that nine year old girls are being pushed to have these injections to prevent STD's.


68 posted on 01/20/2007 10:51:47 PM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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To: steadfastconservative

Well, issuing them chastity belts could be cheaper than $360 a nose. It was a rather unhygienic contraption, though.


69 posted on 01/21/2007 12:28:48 AM PST by GSlob
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To: wagglebee

It's not clear that you understand the issue well. First, the current vaccine does protect against genital warts, and most of the strains of cervical cancer. Second, free vaccine through health departments are only provided to children unable to pay with private insurance, or cash. The program is called VFC (Vaccines For Children) and it is a federal program. Third, the reason the vaccine is recommended at the 11-12 age is because there are a number of other adolescent vaccines provided at the same time. Vaccines are provided on a set schedule and all new vaccines must fit within the schedule to be optimally managed. Fourth, all states provide provisions for parents to opt out of a vaccine program for various reasons. Fifth, there is nothing morally inconsistant with educating girls on abstinance and sexual morals, and providing protection against HPV...some day they may get married and be exposed to HPV by their husbands. HPV can cause cervical cancer which is a devestating disease and can cause death.


70 posted on 01/21/2007 4:18:24 AM PST by quinn2win (Understand this issue better)
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To: steadfastconservative

Unfortunately in my experience of youngsters in Britain that assumption is correct. In my day 30 years ago it was 14 - 15 now it seems more like 11 - 12.


71 posted on 01/21/2007 5:12:13 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: steadfastconservative

I would say in households where there is not a strict moral or religious code then 13 is about the age that the majority of girls become sexual active.


72 posted on 01/21/2007 5:12:59 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: zbigreddogz

"(Civil) libertarians" may not be Civil and Economic libertarians, dog.


73 posted on 01/21/2007 7:34:44 AM PST by 4Liberty ( forced charity = theft)
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To: Caesar Soze

Well, good for you. But you weren't forced to get those vaccinations as a condition of being allowed to continue to attend school as a child, which is what this law would do.


74 posted on 01/21/2007 9:05:07 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: micho

That is true, which is why schools shouldn't hand out contraceptives to students.


75 posted on 01/21/2007 9:06:20 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: 4Liberty

True. What are you getting at?


76 posted on 01/21/2007 11:01:26 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: EDINVA

actually, Virginia's being conservative is a myth

hmmm, I guess you are right.


77 posted on 01/21/2007 1:09:16 PM PST by brwnsuga
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To: veganhoosier

The HPV vaccine is recommended for ages up to 26, correct. That means my daughter can wait till she has reached her majority to get the vaccine and wait till marriage to have sex and she should be fine.


78 posted on 01/21/2007 1:11:18 PM PST by brwnsuga
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To: zbigreddogz

I wondering where you got your data when you state, "From the fact that a lot more self-described Libertarians voted D in 2006 then in any election in recent history." Are those capital L libertarians or civil libertarians?

But I do know that many libertarians are excessively pacifist (anti-war); a weakness of the Party, IMO.


79 posted on 01/21/2007 4:44:28 PM PST by 4Liberty ( forced charity = theft)
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To: 4Liberty

Those are people who identify themselves to exit pollers as libertarians.

Figuring out who's voting for who amongst the actual libertarian party is worthless. You can fit them all in a shoe closet.


80 posted on 01/21/2007 5:00:11 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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