Posted on 01/20/2007 6:03:59 PM PST by DaveyB
You said -- "Just because Sutton worked for Bush when he was Governor of Texas and a member of the Bush transition team?
I fear you may be the one wearing a tinfoil hat."
And just who is Bush going to be talking to about pardons? The lying scumbag prosecutor that he had something to do with putting in there.
Regards,
Star Traveler
And yet you have nothing but admiration for the prosecutor who put the dad in jail for shooting the drug dealer who was slowly killing his daughter.
I see a pattern!
Others have already done exactly that. The tinfoil glare is getting downright annoying. I kid you not! LOL :)
And authorities REALLY know him - having been caught yet again smuggling drugs. And he is getting a free-pass on this case as well...
The Bush Administration has some serious explaining to do. But I don't expect that we will ever get that explanation.
From what I understand, they pulled him over based on a "suspicion". I have to wonder if some folks truly understand the meaning of that and what that "suspicion" allows an agent, or officer of the law, to do. I've never had anyone tell me yet that going on suspicion alone allows someone to shoot at someone, and then try to hide the fact that they did so.
As it turns out, the person shot was a scumbag. But come on, reality says that the outcome could have been an unwarranted shooting of an American citizen. Fleeing from an agent, or officer, isn't grounds for the death penalty. If I'm wrong, I wish someone could point me to the law that says they are.
And just so you know, I think Davila is a scumbag, and I hope justice also knocks on his door.
This Davila had a record. I agree. We learned that AFTER the fact. But are you saying that the two border agents KNEW who they were shooting at? Do you have some documention you can point me to that shows that they knew exactly who Devila was when they shot at him? Also, I'm curious, why do you fault the Bush Administration for the actions of these two border agents? Would you hold the governor of a state responsible for the illegal or unlawful actions of one of their state police officers?
After all, they didn't plan to commit a crime and bring along guns ~ management made them carry the guns, and if a crime occurred, management was definitely part of the process.
Logically, "W" should spend the extra time in jail for having gotten a gun involved in whatever the "crime" might have been.
Wonder if Sutton can be convinced to serve that time himself.
Just wait until Roberts or Alito make a ruling these guys don't agree with. It's all about the conspiracy......... just ask the unwashed over at DU.
it's a federal case, not a state case in texas
Both cases high profile, both cases dubious at face value, both reward the proscecutor with publicity, both had pure human garbage as witnesses.
So what....
The only conspiracy I'm seeing (so far) in this case, is the conspiracy by two of our U.S. border agents to try and cover up for their unlawful actions. They had enough years under the belt to know exactly what protocol requires. They covered up for a reason. People who are excusing that fact, are making an error in judgement, IN MY OPINION. It's also a bit unnerving that so many here are agreeing with the liberal bias in this case. DU must be thrilled.
Now, about that gun and why it was there ~ management made these guys take those guns with them. It's management that's responsible for that part of the "crime". It's management that should do the time.
Sutton, himself, probably bears part of the burden of guilt ~
Johnny Sutton has proven what a POS he is. An enemy of everyone who wants our border tightened up.
You said -- "And yet you have nothing but admiration for the prosecutor who put the dad in jail for shooting the drug dealer who was slowly killing his daughter."
The border patrol guys didn't act illegally in applying lethal force to that drug dealer. The father (in that other thread) did act illegally in applying lethal force, because he was not in threat of his life. He was just pissed at the drug dealer (and indirectly his daughter) for having her friends take her to her drug-dealing boyfriend. The problem was that the father had lost control over his daughter and she decided she liked getting high on drugs.
These border patrol people -- on the other hand -- were interdicting hundreds of pounds of drugs. There's a world of difference between a disgruntled father whose daughter is out of control and these boder patrol people. They are doing a *job* -- the father was frustrated because of his drug-using daugther that he couldn't control. Two different situations.
Illegal killing is still illegal no matter how you look at it. A citizen can't do it, an officer can't do it.
As I said -- in the case where the dad went up and shot a drug dealer, that's frontier justice and that is illegal. If citizens are to carry firearms, which they should be able to, then they *must* be responsible and legal and *only* aplly lethal force when they are threatened. That dad was not threatened with his life and he was not in imminent danger. That's why he was charged and convicted. He goes to jail because he acted illegally. He killed someone because he was mad, not because his life was threatened.
Now, these border agents *were* acting legally. This scumbag drug dealer was also known to carry a weapon. They saw who he was when they tackled him. These border patrol guys did not do anything illegal -- from what I can see and from what the "Friends of the Border Patrol" say.
So, to mix up an *llegal activity* (which was that dad in another thread) with the *excellent job* that these border patrol people did (which was legal) is mixing apples and oranges. The two do not go together.
Regards,
Star Traveler
You got this his number! You have Johnny Sutton pegged!
The solution to Canada's problems is not in the prosecution of well-meaning fathers.
This situation involves Mexican drug-dealers and corrupt prosecutors.
The agents, at most, made administrative errors.
You said -- "I see a pattern!"
I hate to say it, but it appears so...
Regards,
Star Traveler
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