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CHRIS MATTHEWS: EARLY INDICATOR OF HILLARY CLINTON'S LACK OF CANDOR-- LET'S BE BLUNT
Hardball | 1.23.07 | Mia T

Posted on 01/23/2007 8:39:04 PM PST by Mia T

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To: gonzo

thx gonzo :)


41 posted on 01/24/2007 4:11:33 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Sun

excellent.

Gives me an idea....

Closed captioning for the thinking impaired whenever missus clinton deigns to lecture us ;)


42 posted on 01/24/2007 4:21:09 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: jla

ping


43 posted on 01/24/2007 4:46:30 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Chris Matthews has never been a Clinton fan.

His shows during '97 and '98 were not sympathetic to Mr. Bill Clinton, so he's being consistent in exposing Mrs. Bill Clinton.

His animosity toward President Bush kinda makes our memories foggy. ;-)


44 posted on 01/24/2007 5:30:38 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: Mia T

More free face time, imprinting name time, discussing meaningless issues. Matthews and Williams pre-meditating propagandists propagating the lie named Hillary.

"Let's have a conversation" cohorts.


45 posted on 01/24/2007 6:10:46 AM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt

That 'lets have a conversation' bit is so she doesn't have to answer any questions.....just like when she ran for her senate seat in NY the first time....'lets talk' and I'll listen...but don't ask me any questions....

She is so phoney it's sickening....


46 posted on 01/24/2007 6:58:51 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Matthews is one of the few libs who saw the Clintons for what they were early on. And called them on it. Consistently, believe it or not. And he still sees Hillary, apparently, for what she is. Good.


47 posted on 01/24/2007 7:02:13 AM PST by twigs
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To: Sun

Another outstanding post, Sun. Thanks.


48 posted on 01/24/2007 8:55:28 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Mia T

ping back to you


49 posted on 01/24/2007 9:38:40 AM PST by jla
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To: Mia T

Also, Hillary has NONE of her husband's charisma. This inhibits her ability to lie convincingly. Bill could lie to a reporter's face but his charisma and likeability was such that the reporter either wouldn't notice or wouldn't care. ("all policticans do it, Bill's such a nice guy). HIllary lies and comes off as completely condescending, elitist and phony. Even the libs don't like that treatment. Listen to Hillary trying to throw in a scripted laugh or chuckle - it's the phoniest thing you've ever heard in your life.


50 posted on 01/24/2007 9:47:14 AM PST by joebuck
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To: joebuck
re charisma

SCHEMA PINOCCHIO
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor

by Mia T, 8.03.05



They turned our bridge to the 21st century into a tunnel back into the 19th century. Back us out of that Republican tunnel, fill it in, go back across the bridge.... We'll have a giant celebration when we come back to Columbus in 2020. There's nothing more wonderful than making dreams come true.

hear hillary clinton
address to the
Democratic Leadership Council
Columbus, Ohio
7.31.05

 

 


issus clinton is a dud.

I could say she has all of bill clinton's baggage and none of his charm, except I don't find bill clinton charming. What she lacks, in my view, is lubricant. Snake oil. She grates.

It's more than simple dislike. You don't want to see her; and you definitely don't want to hear her.

Missus clinton is everyman's worst nightmare: ex-wife, fishwife, mother-in-law; worse, the abusive Nazi commandant in the Lina Wertmuller masterpiece. When she humiliates, which is always, she dons the sweaty tank undershirt, she grabs the whip.

The clintons understand this and are attempting to mitigate it with the following two-prong strategy:

  1. The clintons are pushpolling to artificially jack up missus clinton's numbers; this is a relatively easy task, given a compliant press. This illusion of electability is intended to fool the voters, activate the herd mentality and ultimately fool the smart money, people like David Geffen and Harold Ickes.


    It won't work. Missus clinton has 100% name recognition. Any vote she doesn't already have, she won't get. Conversely, many voters have 0% information on the clinton abuses of power and utter failures. From this it follows that many votes she has today, she won't have tomorrow.

  2. The clintons are conflating bill and hillary; "the clintons" become a single construct. Missus clinton arrogates the "bridge to the 21st century " as "theirs." And, by lifting the lyrics straight from Pinocchio, she becomes "the man from 'hope'."

    The danger here for missus clinton is that with the bridge and the hope come
    the abuses and the utter failures.

"She is angry. Not all the time. But most of the time."

 

author Gail Sheehy
Hillary's Choice
(New York: Random House, 1999) p. 11

"[Hillary Clinton] is in a perpetual state of suspended anger...."

 

former Clinton adviser
to author Gail Sheehy
Hillary's Choice
(New York: Random House, 1999) p. 139

"Hillary hit him between the eyes. She was angrier than Paul had ever seen her. 'You f**king Jew bastard!' she screamed."

 

author Jerry Oppenheimer
quoting campaign aide Paul Fray
State of a Union
(New York: Harper-Collins, 2000) p. 153

 

 

 

[W]hen White House Counsel... Abner Mikva finally bowed to the law and delivered subpoenaed documents, she and her White House scandal team lashed at him with such a vicious streak of humiliating profanity that he resigned.

 

Barbara Olson
Hell to Pay
(Washington, D.C.: Regnery, 1999) p. 5

"Anyone that stood up... was smashed down and belittled,very personally. [N]ot only would she sort of humiliate you in front of your colleagues or whoever happened to be around, Hillary tended to kind of campaign against people behind their back, and that was certainly my experience."

 

former Clinton press secretary Dee Dee Myers
PBS Frontline, 16 Jan 2001
The Clinton Years

 

Longtime Hillary aide Carolyn Huber, who saved Mrs. Clinton's buns in 1996 with a convenient cover story about how her mysterious Rose Law Firm billing records magically appeared in the White House book room, described the former first lady's fits of rage to Sheehy as nearly lethal. "The person on the receiving end never gets over it," Huber remembered, reportedly shivering as she spoke those words.

 

Hillary's Scheme
(New York: Crown Forum, 2003) p. 88
Hillary's Choice
(New York: Random House, 1999) p. 11

The rages continued even after Mrs. Clinton took up residence in the White House, where she blew up at a Secret Service agent for declining to carry her bags. When the agent explained that he needed to keep his hands free in order to protect her, she replied, "If you want to remain on this detail, get your f**king ass over here and grab those bags."

 

Joyce Milton
First Partner
(New York: William Morrow, 1999) p. 259






51 posted on 01/24/2007 11:12:27 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: PGalt; Sun

Indeed. bump


52 posted on 01/24/2007 1:50:17 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: HarleyLady27; PGalt; All
No scrutiny of missus clinton allowed. ever.

OLD MEDIA OUGHT TO PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO WHAT HILLARY CLINTON DID TO SUSAN SCHMIDT OF THE WASHINGTON POST

…The point is not that Blumenthal is a hypocrite (although he seems to be exactly that). The point is that throughout this book Blumenthal seems utterly incapable of understanding how his own uncompromising, take-no-prisoners defense of the Clintons contributed to the poisonous political atmosphere that he bemoans. Time and again, in the book as in life, he rearranges facts, spins conspiracy theories, impugns motives, and besmirches the character of his political and journalistic foes-- all for the greater cause of defending the Clintons (and himself). Hyde, Kenneth Starr, Hickman Ewing, Lindsey Graham, Tom DeLay-- each was malicious, narrow-minded, bigoted, buffoonish, and anti-democratic. Meanwhile, Blumenthal wonders repeatedly why so many people dislike him. At one point, bizarrely, he suggests it is because he is "intellectual" and "Jewish."

…But it is abundantly clear that distortion is standard fare for Blumenthal. Although there are slivers of truth in most of what he writes, the facts are dishonestly rearranged to settle scores or whitewash his and the Clintons' actions.

…Consider one small example: Blumenthal's effort to extricate himself and Hillary Clinton from a clumsy attempt to build a White House dossier on Susan Schmidt, the Washington Post's most aggressive reporter on Whitewater. Blumenthal's role in this vaguely Nixonian exercise was first reported five years ago in a story by the Post's media reporter, Howard Kurtz. When Michael McCurry, who was then press secretary, learned of the project, he proclaimed it "crazy" and killed it. Instead of admitting his involvement, Blumenthal pretends that he was a passive party. After hearing "constant complaints" about Schmidt's reporting from White House legal aides, he writes, he suggested they "should present the facts to the Post to correct any errors. Beyond that, I never knew about a study of Schmidt's reporting. I asked Hillary Clinton, and she had no memory of anything either."

But others do remember--quite differently, as it turns out. Mark Fabiani, the White House lawyer who ran the counsel offices' "damage control" team, said he recalls getting a phone call from Blumenthal strongly urging him to do a report on Schmidt. When Fabiani didn't follow up, he then got a call from Hillary Clinton's chief of staff instructing him to get moving on the job. This led to the preparation of a lengthy dossier (one that did little to effectively discredit Schmidt, according to Fabiani) and a series of meetings--including one with Hillary Clinton --about what to do with it. The White House lawyers knew exactly what had happened, says Fabiani. "We all laughed about it. We knew [Blumenthal] had called Hillary and told Hillary this should be done. …He was sort of the brooding, omnipresence over the whole thing."

Another more serious example of Blumenthal's malleable relationship to the truth involves his testimony before Kenneth Starr's grand jury…

I wrote about Blumenthal's courthouse deceptions in my own book Uncovering Clinton. So I when I picked up The Clinton Wars I was mildly curious to see how he would handle the subject. Would he show the slightest contrition for his deceptive public statements? Not at all. In The Clinton Wars, Blumenthal recounts in exhaustive, self-congratulatory detail how he turned the table on Starr. …

If The Clinton Wars has any central point it is that the scandals that beset the Clinton presidency--from Whitewater to campaign finance to Lewinsky to Marc Rich--were each and every one of them entirely concocted, from start to finish. This is patently absurd.… Blumenthal's blanket whitewash is close to ludicrous--and sustainable only by erasing huge chunks of the historical record.

About Whitewater, Blumenthal has this to say: "There was never anything to in the beginning, middle or end." What convinced him? In January 1994, Hillary Clinton called him into her office and told him so. "I believed Hillary Clinton," he writes. "Her telling of the story … sounded convincing; her demeanor struck no false notes."

As for the Lewinsky matter--

it was all very simple: It was about the efforts of rigid, culturally repressed conservatives like Starr to use sex as a "tracer" and a "code" to thwart progressive politics. Remember Vernon Jordan's phone call to Revlon to get Lewinsky a job--

made just days after Clinton's lawyers learned that Lewinsky was on a witness list in the Paula Jones case? There's barely a mention of that. What does Blumenthal have to say about Clinton's famous session with presidential secretary Betty Currie right after he testified falsely in his deposition? ("I was never alone with Monica, right?" he said. "Monica came on to me and I never touched her, right?") He never talks about it.

"It is my serious intent to have written this as a history," Blumenthal recently told the New York Times, insisting that his book was written "dispassionately." But not to belabor the obvious, to write history, you have to have some basic respect for the historical record. You have to make at least some effort at understanding the motivations and thinking of political antagonists--including those you happen to strongly disagree with. Blumenthal has done none of this. His book isn't history; it's one big orgy of political spin.

Insidious Sid
Michael Isikoff,
Slate, Tuesday, May 20, 2003

53 posted on 01/24/2007 1:52:53 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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HILLARY! RAMPS UP CLINTON SECRET POLICE: THREAT INTENDED TO SILENCE OPPONENTS
54 posted on 01/24/2007 1:55:48 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Closed captioning for the thinking impaired whenever missus clinton deigns to lecture us ;)

:)

55 posted on 01/24/2007 3:48:57 PM PST by PGalt
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To: joebuck
HIllary lies and comes off as completely condescending, elitist and phony. Even the libs don't like that treatment. Listen to Hillary trying to throw in a scripted laugh or chuckle - it's the phoniest thing you've ever heard in your life.

Great point. It only means the propagandists that feed our heads with the lie called Hillary might have to work a little harder than usual.

If they pull this blindfold over our eyes and it works, they'll be backslapping each other. If not, they won't even expose the pathetic serial liar, they'll continue on (without missing a beat) attacking the person that beat her.

It's win/win for a propagandist until people quit buying what they and their enablers are selling.

56 posted on 01/24/2007 4:01:23 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Mia T

"Closed captioning for the thinking impaired whenever missus clinton deigns to lecture us ;)"

Excellent idea. You are a genius.


57 posted on 01/24/2007 6:42:52 PM PST by Sun (Let your New Year's resolution be to vote for conservatives in the primaries! Happy 2007!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

"Somebody is also paying Toe Sucker Morris to go on the offensive."

I think that Morris came to the realization that if Hillary isn't stopped, she will ruin the country. After all, Morris lives in this country, too.


58 posted on 01/24/2007 7:28:21 PM PST by Sun (Let your New Year's resolution be to vote for conservatives in the primaries! Happy 2007!)
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To: PGalt; Mia T

Thank you, both.


59 posted on 01/24/2007 7:30:44 PM PST by Sun (Let your New Year's resolution be to vote for conservatives in the primaries! Happy 2007!)
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To: Sun

That seems reasonable.


60 posted on 01/24/2007 9:16:26 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Well, it's 2007. Time to get ready for 2008.)
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