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The Coming Amnesty Disaster (Michelle Malkin)
townhall.com ^ | 1/24/07 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 01/24/2007 3:54:14 AM PST by beyond the sea

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To: mathluv; Joe Boucher; Doogle
Last night he said "No amnesty".

It really doesn't matter if you call a sweet potato a yam or a sweet potato.

;-)

41 posted on 01/24/2007 5:11:24 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest)
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To: Miss Marple

"You know, I was going to start arguing this issue, but I decided that I will give up."

I'm inclined to feel the same way but I will say this: Congress got spanked over this issue last year. There were immigrant rallies and demonstrations all over the country but there were even more people that called and complained to their Congressman. If we do that again it could potentially derail Bush's amnesty.


42 posted on 01/24/2007 5:12:03 AM PST by webstersII
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To: engrpat
..how many new jails will be needed?

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"Be able to find your clothes and your weapons in the dark."

43 posted on 01/24/2007 5:13:04 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest)
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To: engrpat

44 posted on 01/24/2007 5:13:47 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: ovrtaxt
"They didn't get the message on Nov. 2. Enough people are upset about this that they lost, and they still don't admit it. Unbelievable!"

Speaking for my immediate family I can say that this exact issue cost the Republicans three votes in the last election.

Bush has signed the death warrant for the Republican party by allowing this to happen on his watch. Nobody is more pro-business than I, but our party will go under because of the sellout to big business.

It's not a matter of "if," anymore...but "when."
45 posted on 01/24/2007 5:15:14 AM PST by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: beyond the sea

"G.W. is certainly not to be blamed, at least not by himself."

No, but he certainly had the power to oppose the Senate amnesty plan before the last election; and he certainly has the power to pardon the two BP agents in prison. And he certainly has the power not to be complicit in the amnesty plan this time around. If He conspires with the Dems on this it will be interesting to see how it is sold to what's left of the base that got him elected.


46 posted on 01/24/2007 5:15:22 AM PST by TheeOhioInfidel ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world." - Winston Churchill on Islam.)
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To: Doogle
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"I can even bake cookies."

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47 posted on 01/24/2007 5:16:45 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest)
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To: engrpat

It must be something like what citizens of the formerly independent nations of Western Europe felt, the few economically literate ones at least, about taking in so many countries that were far worse basket cases than their own. I believe they at least got to vote on it, though. Maybe that's what this is about ... front load millions of sympathetic, newly minted voters via amnesty, and then magnanimously allow U. S. citizens a say in the matter, knowing full well that the outcome has already been determined.


48 posted on 01/24/2007 5:17:13 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: beyond the sea

This is a mute point. The republican leadership has gone insane. The rats have been insane for a long time now. All we can do is vote these pieces of dog excrement out of office. By then the damage will have been done and there is not a damn thing we can do to avert this.My apologies to any dog excrement that may have been offended.


49 posted on 01/24/2007 5:19:46 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: beyond the sea
"I can even bake cookies."

without burning down the house?

50 posted on 01/24/2007 5:20:00 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: RavenATB; ovrtaxt; engrpat; webstersII; mathluv; Joe Boucher; Doogle
Bush has signed the death warrant for the Republican party by allowing this to happen on his watch. Nobody is more pro-business than I, but our party will go under because of the sellout to big business. It's not a matter of "if," anymore...but "when."

I think Bush is just in the wrong place at the wrong time. This was going to happen no matter who was President.

But, as you say I think< the Republican Party's allegiances are relatively limited, so this issue has severely hurt........ mortally hurt, perhaps.

51 posted on 01/24/2007 5:24:08 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest)
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To: imahawk
The republican leadership has gone insane. The rats have been insane for a long time now.

It's the chemtrails!

52 posted on 01/24/2007 5:26:52 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest)
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To: beyond the sea

Amnesty for Democrat votes. The ignorant, uneducated, stoop-laborer is what we now want, down from the educated, English speaking and productive. What a fall, all for the sake of having minimum wage workers and more Democrat victims.


53 posted on 01/24/2007 5:28:26 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: mathluv

Hundreds of thousands of illegals have falsified IDs or stolen IDs. That is a felony. All of them will be given a pass on those felonies.

That's amnesty.

Thousands of businesses have knowingly hired illegals. Thry will be given a pass on their crimes.

That's amnesty.

The simple answer is that the President is lying. He is, in fact, proposing amnesty.

(Flame retardant suit ON.)


54 posted on 01/24/2007 5:29:28 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: beyond the sea

All these "controversial" issues should be VOTED ON BY THE PEOPLE!!!

The politicians in Washington are helpless on these issues. The democrats and the MSM demagogue absolutely everything to their favor.


55 posted on 01/24/2007 5:29:53 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: webstersII
There were immigrant rallies and demonstrations all over the country but there were even more people that called and complained......

recently they promised bigger and better rallies soon, big difference this time will be the democratic control congress

56 posted on 01/24/2007 5:30:16 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: beyond the sea
one of the worst conditions in this country that needs to be fixed are the bureaucracies. They are all broken he said.

I'm sorry, Newt's just wrong. Our greatest ex-President and his boy wonder fixed the bureaucracy, remember?

/sarc, just in case it's needed

57 posted on 01/24/2007 5:36:12 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: mathluv

"Last night he said "No amnesty"."


That's when I woke up. All the *WE NEEDS* put me to sleep, up to that point. IMO, he said that to throw the *A* word back in the faces of those who accuse him of such. The *smirk* on his face tells all.


58 posted on 01/24/2007 5:36:18 AM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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To: beyond the sea
The "powerful" have finally gotten to the point where they can deconstruct the USA. To me, there is no other explanation and also there is plenty of evidence.

It's their time.

It's true - GWB doesn't get to set his own policies on this nor on a lot of other issues that directly impact the Powers That Be. I think the 1980 election of Ronald Reagan was the catalyst - it scared the hell out the elites, and they vowed to make sure that no incompetent Carter or activist Reagan ever got elected again, and that whoever did get elected towed the mark on issues important to those elites.

So that's why who wins in 2008 really doesn't matter that much. The general direction of the country will not change. I guess the key to success in the USA in these times is: find a way to provide value to Goldman Sachs. And if you want real political change, start a proxy fight and vote out their board of directors. ;)

59 posted on 01/24/2007 5:37:14 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: SMM48

Politicians are totally ignoring Americans in their quest for the Hispanic vote.


60 posted on 01/24/2007 5:38:28 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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