Posted on 01/24/2007 10:04:10 AM PST by SmithL
Well, in that case, she's a superb whiner! :)
....not only didn't call, but refused the offer of the feds to help before the hurricane hit.
Blanko, the governor of the chocolate city, will not be happy until every single inhabitant of the chocolate city is given $1 million, tax-free. That is her minimum.
Uhh, yeah. It is. It is 2007. Shut-up whining, you cry-baby!
Well, simply calling something 'BS' doesn't make it so.... and by the way, I have spent a lot of time in NOLA in the past year doing my own research on this question. Of course there is no one that would 'want to dare bring that crap down here'.... it is a question of liability and the position against it would be vigorously defended and potentially dangerous to anyone proposing it. That too does not have anything to do with the truth though as far as the exact failure mechanism. Out of curiousity, what do your Corps of Engineers friends tell you was the exact mechanism that caused New Orleans to be flooded out? What exactly do you disagree with in the link provided in post 26?
Actually, The 15 hurricanes that never hit in 2006 is yesterday's news
I used to work for the Corps of Engineers, Mississippi Valley Division headquartered in Vicksburg, MS. They oversee all the MS River districts, including New Orleans.
Between 2000 and 2004, I personally saw the New Orleans District formally request levee money on three different occasions. I was in the Video teleconferences between the N.O District and the Division when it happened each time. I saw it with my own eyes. I also saw state reps and Congressional panels shoot down these requests from the Division. The money went to wildlife preservation, habitat expansion and pet projects for levee board members who stood to gain financially.
When the levees did top and break, it was my friends from the Corps who were some of the first to be in the nasty and risk life and limb to do anything they could. They WERE shot at, many things WERE thrown at them, residents WERE trying to steal their boats. When I see PC bound morons who don't have 2 brain cells to rub together come on here and start spouting senseless conspiracy crap, I get pretty miffed. Same with the people who come on here and take the media's word that their reporting was not accurate. It WAS accurate, it just made blacks look bad and they recanted because they were afraid it would affect donations for white America to see the looters and hear of the violence. My insurance agent went down a few days after it calmed down a bit. In all three properties he went to see, there were bodies inside with bullet wounds.
That is just the truth.
A category 1 "regular storm"??? That is the most insulting BS I have read about this hurricane. It was a cat 1 when it hit my house almost 250 miles up-river. It did so much damage to my town, some people didn't have power for weeks and some are STILL getting roofs and fences fixed.
You can take your "conspiracy theory" drivel and shove it.
Well duh.... I think that virtually 100% of it came from Lake Pontchartrain, no? I say 'virtually 100%' (purely as a technicality) because with the storm surge occurring on the Gulf, I suppose that the direction of water may have been temporarily reversed going through the Rigolets so some of the water in Lake Pontchartrain could theoretically have come from the Gulf.... oh and of course some of the water came in the form of rainfall brought in by the hurricane itself.... there, I think that just about forms the total water from ALL sources that could have potentially flooded New Orleans, no? There is of course a question as to the degree of localized storm surge on Lake Pontchartrain...all one has to do is look at the storm path to see that New Orleans was significantly to the west of the eye ....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina
As for your second question, what is the relevance of that? What on earth could you have been smoking to read into my post a suggestion that the Corps of Engineers had any responsibility for evacuation? Sheeesh....it has absolutely nothing to do with the issue raised... which to remind you had to do with why and how New Orleans ended up under water. Which brings this to your turn.... what exactly do you believe the failure mechanism to have been that caused New Orleans to be flooded? What exactly do you disagree with in the link that I provided in Post 26?
I disagree with the idea that any of this debacle was the fault of the Corps of Engineers. Bloodsucking pols decided that pet projects were more important than a proper levee system, and bloodsucking pols are happy when people blame the Corps.
Drivel Theorist, 0
What I did not see was a) any technical arguments that refuted the link originally provided in Post 26, b) an answer to the question posed in my last post to you of 'what do your Corps of Engineers friends tell you was the exact mechanism that caused New Orleans to be flooded out?' This is the question on the table.... what did you see in the link that you believe is untrue? Good grief... this is not that hard. All that whizbang was suggesting in the link was that the levees were in such poor condition already that there likely would have been a major break even without Katrina... in a sense, Katrina was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Are you saying that everything was just hunky dory with the levees? That they were in good shape but simply overwhelmed by the massiveness of the storm? Or are you saying that they were in poor shape? Or in poor shape AND overwhelmed by the massiveness of the storm?
So what is your post supposed to mean? Or is that the extent of your intelligence? I've been asking the question what seems like a dozen times..... 'what do you then believe was the exact failure mechanism that caused New Orleans to end up under water'? Unless you have a better answer than the nothing answers received so far, I'll assume you also have nothing to offer.
Given the murder rate in NO, the only cure is to send in the Airborne. Except they are busy in Iraq.
Not too complicated, ace.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
August 11, 2006
The head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, who in June admitted that design flaws in the levees his agency built to protect New Orleans caused most of the flooding during Hurricane Katrina, has asked to retire, the Army said on Thursday. In an after-hours announcement, the Army issued a statement saying Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, commander and chief engineer of the corps, had requested his retirement from the military "based on family and personal reasons," Reuters reports. The announcement came a bit more than two months after the corps issued a 6,100-page report admitting to its blunders in the design of storm walls and earthen levees that were supposed to protect the New Orleans area.
The corp themselves have admitted their design flaws led to the flooding. Of course you are free to disagree with them as well. Maybe you know something they don't.
I'll tell you what is complicated for you.... an answer to my last question in Post 75 as to the 'failure mechanism' which is why the silence is rather deafening.
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