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Ford May Report Worst Loss in History
ap ^ | 1/24/07 | Tom Krisher, AP Business Writer

Posted on 01/24/2007 5:37:16 PM PST by Flavius

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To: Old_Mil

(In fact, I have worked for their Japanese competition - but I DO care about the truth, unlike many people here)


121 posted on 01/26/2007 9:50:16 PM PST by eraser2005
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To: xzins
Lower their prices to match their quality and the prices of other cars on the road.

That can't happen unless they crack their union wage scales, and sluff off their accrued health care liabilities to the Feds. The company is a very sick and near terminal puppy, if BOTH of those don't happen.

122 posted on 01/26/2007 9:52:53 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: eraser2005

What does the word UPDATE suggest to you?

There is a library of collected material represented by that website. It has been collected since BEFORE the boycott was launched. (That's what UPDATE should suggest to you.)

Show me item for item the matching offense from each other manufacturer.

You need to calm down.

Someone asked if you were an employee of Ford or had some other similar connection to them. Do You?


123 posted on 01/26/2007 9:53:12 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: eraser2005
people calling themselves christians

How did auto economics get conflated with religion?

124 posted on 01/26/2007 9:54:15 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: eraser2005
What part of A SORDID HISTORY isn't making it into yours?
125 posted on 01/26/2007 9:56:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Torie

The airlines have forced a series of wage and benefit cuts.

Their argument is simple: You can have your $100 and hour package turn to $0 an hour when we go out of business,

OR

You can have a lower $50 and hour package, which is still a great wage in American, and a job.

Zero or Fifty....which is it?


126 posted on 01/26/2007 9:57:31 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

We will soon find out. But Ford without exciting products also needs out of its health care benefit problem. Toyota has better cars dollar for dollar, with much younger workers, earning lower wages in the South, that are not unionized. That is a horrific beast for Detroit with which to cope.


127 posted on 01/26/2007 10:00:40 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: Enterprise
Sounds like they're not feeling very GAY over at Ford.

That was cold.

128 posted on 01/26/2007 10:00:44 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: festus
I thought Ford died last month ?

Now that's very cold....

129 posted on 01/26/2007 10:19:08 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: xzins
"Someone asked if you were an employee of Ford or had some other similar connection to them. Do You?"

I answered that question already, and the answer is no. But I guess I've already figured out we can't expect you to actually read anything.

So while you go back and read, chew on this for awhile.... And it is just a sample (BTW, Subaru is part-owned by Toyota).

Personally, you would think if you're going to go ballistic over what they had on "Three and a Half Men", you should be more upset with Toyota depicting the same thing in their own commercials than with Ford buying advertising time during the show. All Ford is guilty of there is picking a poor show to advertise during (they don't get to review shows ahead of time).


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130 posted on 01/27/2007 5:50:46 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If you have any accusations about my history, bring them.

Until then, shut your trap.


131 posted on 01/27/2007 5:52:02 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: eraser2005

What you've provided is just a few ads. AFA is targeting an entire range of activity by Ford. You have just begun to scratch the surface.

You want to know why Ford was the one chosen. AFA says that over the years, their support of the gay AGENDA is most egregious.

Show where others are as egregious as the compilation provided by AFA. We have a Ford plant in our area. I would like to be able to support them.

In the past I've owned Falcon, Pinto, Fairmont, Mustang.

But, not until they relent.


132 posted on 01/27/2007 6:22:35 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
"That was cold."

Tough.

133 posted on 01/27/2007 6:50:56 AM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: xzins
"I do not like the sea of white faces in the audience and FoMoCo must ensure that in the future, the company reflects the broad spectrum of Ford's customers," said Nasser in a videotaped address to top executives shown at diversity training seminars."

My personal boycott began with this clown. It strengthened with the gay friendly crap. I have owned a Ford before and it was a good product. But now, screw 'em.

I do not like the sea of white faces in the audience

134 posted on 01/27/2007 7:05:31 AM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: xzins

I've provided you with links to Toyota's support of gay organizations. I've provided you with links to ads every bit as egregious as Ford's. If you did a simple google search you'll find DaimlerChrysler and GM supporting the same organizations that you're accusing Ford of supporting. I could do it for you, but why? It is clear you won't pay attention.

AFA chose Ford not because they are the most egregious. They chose Ford because they needed a weak target after failing miserably. Their past boycotts on Disney and P&G sure worked, huh? That one on Walmart certainly had little effect (the NGLCC is still thanking Walmart for support as a "corporate visionary").

I don't see that there's any point in digging up more evidence for you, as you've ignored all that has been given, deciding to believe Wildmon instead. Do some research yourself. Believe me, you'll be better off for it. You may choose to continue to boycott Ford, and it is your right. But you won't be believing they are any more "egregious" in their support. You should ALWAYS question what people are telling you and verify things before jumping on a bandwagon.

(BTW, if you've owned a Falcon, Pinto, Fairmont, and Mustang in the past, odds are your joining the boycott is making VERY little difference to Ford, as the Mustang is the only one of your list that has even been built in the past quarter century)


135 posted on 01/27/2007 7:13:11 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: Enterprise

Umm... Nasser was fired awhile back....


136 posted on 01/27/2007 7:14:26 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: Flavius

Ford is the Edsel of car companies.


137 posted on 01/27/2007 7:14:59 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: rom

Buick isthe biggest selling brand in China.


138 posted on 01/27/2007 7:17:40 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: eraser2005

Illogical. It demonstrates I'm a past and relatively recent customer.

You cannot match the data of AFA item for item. That means you have lost the exchange, and AFA's analysis for why Ford has been boycotted has not been refuted.



139 posted on 01/27/2007 7:18:09 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Enterprise

Good reason. That's racist.


140 posted on 01/27/2007 7:23:27 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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