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To: marshmallow
I don't think one can KNOW what "evils and disorders" will come from a war. Plus, we are not finished yet. In 10 years, what if there is a lasting peace in the Middle East, Iran gets rid of the nut case, and a solutioin is found for the Palestinian problem because there is no one to fund Hammas? Is it then a just war, according to the catechism?

We did not go into Iraq for glory, or for conquest, or for monetary gain. We went in to stop someone from acquiring nuclear weapons, at which point he would have been able to threaten a large portion of the Middle East (including Israel) and also a fair chunk of Europe. We also went in to depose a man who was torturing and murdering his population.

Right now Iran is ramping up to get nuclear weapons. Is your position that we should WAIT until they have a nuclear weapon and USE IT?

61 posted on 01/26/2007 11:59:33 AM PST by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: Miss Marple
You're perfectly correct. It is very difficult to know what "evils and disorders" will come from war and that's one reason why the Church is so careful in its approach to the question of its declaration. If the ideal outcome which you describe indeed comes to pass, then it would definitely be seen as worth the cost in the suffering of the indigenous Iraqis and the deaths of US soldiers. At the moment, the situation looks worlds away from that but one lives in hope.

I take dispute with your claim that we went in to stop Saddam acquiring nuclear weapons. My understanding was that we believed he already had "weapons of mass destruction". Hence the thorough search and subsequent recriminations when it came up empty. I also believe that an Islamic Iraq is more of a threat to Middle Eastern peace than the previous version run by a secular dictator.

As for Iran, I consider any country with a radical Islamic leadership and nuclear weaponry to be a clear danger which may well merit a pre-emptive strike. However, we must be absolutely certain that it has the weapon(s), and not merely suspect it through half-baked intelligence. It's not sufficient simply to have "good intentions" when starting a war. Most errors are made sincerely and with the belief that the right thing is being done.

62 posted on 01/26/2007 12:53:06 PM PST by marshmallow
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