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Giuliani a tough conservative sell
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/25/07 | Liz Sidoti - ap

Posted on 01/25/2007 8:32:31 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: EternalVigilance
Check the thread. Some of the Unappeasables threaten to actually VOTE for Hillary rather than staying home if Rudy is the candidate.

So you are wrong.


501 posted on 01/26/2007 10:56:46 AM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: BunnySlippers

I'm not wrong. The selection of a non-conservative will elect Hillary and destroy the Reagan coalition. Period.

The GOP can survive losing an election. But it cannot survive the abandonment of its principles and platform.


502 posted on 01/26/2007 11:00:09 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Rudy is Hillary, in drag, with more personal baggage.)
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To: tomcorn
That is why the Traditionalists ( RINOS to the CW's) have dramatically taken control.

What is "traditional" about favoring abortion and gun control?

503 posted on 01/26/2007 11:03:38 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: EternalVigilance

First you are going to have to point me to a dictionary that decodes your messages. You use so much jargon half the time I have to guess what you mean.

I did get a whole pile of mails about the deep history. Funny stuff on the whole...Tales of buses, shacks, and fences and other oddities. Gotta say EV you are an industrious and dedicated fellow. Tip o'the hat to you.


504 posted on 01/26/2007 11:06:24 AM PST by tomcorn
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To: tomcorn

Ah, I see you've been communicating with the antifreepers and their folks who remain here. Interesting.


505 posted on 01/26/2007 11:17:08 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Rudy is Hillary, in drag, with more personal baggage.)
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To: jmc813

JMC....you miss the point. The is a difference between favoring something and not giving a damn about it. Many traditionalists don't give a damn about abortion or want to end late term abortions only. Many traditionalists dont care about handgun control and definititely think automatic weapons are a bad idea except for the military.

What Traditionalists care about is low taxes, small government, a strong defense, deregulation and keeping government out of our lives as much as possible. The Bible, ID, Prayer in schools, Abortion et al are private manners and none of our damn business. Believe what you want. Just don't compell me to believe what you do. It's that Liberty thing you see. The Traditionalist hated it when liberal culture vultures try to define the culture with their odious stamp and now hate it when conservative culture warriors try to brand the nation with their notions " moral correctness". Bloviating sanctimony, liberal or conservative is annoying as hell.


506 posted on 01/26/2007 11:19:13 AM PST by tomcorn
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To: PhiKapMom
ROFLOL! I am one of those Conservative Republicans who believes winning the WH is absolutely necessary and will support the candidate I believe will be a strong leader, supports the WOT, for smaller government, less taxes, law and order, and strict constitutionalist judges.

How is Rudy better than Hunter in ANY of these fields?

507 posted on 01/26/2007 11:20:01 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: BunnySlippers
But one thing I can tell you ... apparently you have not noticed ... Jim does not throw people off the board because they don't like Keyes ... or disagree.

Thank goodness for that. As much as some of these left-leaning freepers annoy me, it wouldn't be nearly as interesting around here without them.

My point is that, correct me if I'm wrong, using the term "Keyester" is akin to calling a supporter of Alan an ass. At least that's how I interpret it.

508 posted on 01/26/2007 11:22:09 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: tomcorn; EternalVigilance
I did get a whole pile of mails about the deep history. Funny stuff on the whole...Tales of buses, shacks, and fences and other oddities. Gotta say EV you are an industrious and dedicated fellow. Tip o'the hat to you.

You're noot even attempting to hide your retread status.

509 posted on 01/26/2007 11:23:32 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: jmc813
How is Rudy better than Hunter in ANY of these fields?



Because Rudy can win and Hunter can't.

Also I haven't seen Hunter debate but he better be damn good to even be in the same ballpark as Rudy.
510 posted on 01/26/2007 11:25:32 AM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: jmc813
My point is that, correct me if I'm wrong, using the term "Keyester" is akin to calling a supporter of Alan an ass. At least that's how I interpret it.

Well, THAT is something I didn't know ... but I think the idea that it does has some merit. I may just have to stop using it as that is not what I meant to convey.

Keyes Supporters does just fine!

511 posted on 01/26/2007 11:26:59 AM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Like I said...I got some mail. They were advocates for their flavor. One was Romneyite and another was Giulianist. One was an Ancient Freeper Sage and another was a newbie. So you wanna expand on the story and set me straight or not? Here's your chance...Send it in mail if you like. I did find it fascinating.


512 posted on 01/26/2007 11:27:26 AM PST by tomcorn
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To: tomcorn

Who do you think you're fooling? The first time you came to my attention, I went back and looked at the day you so seamlessly appeared under this screenname and started attacking good conservative people. You're as obvious a retread as I've ever seen here.


513 posted on 01/26/2007 11:30:26 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Rudy is Hillary, in drag, with more personal baggage.)
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To: tomcorn
Many traditionalists don't give a damn about abortion or want to end late term abortions only. Many traditionalists dont care about handgun control and definititely think automatic weapons are a bad idea except for the military.

The 2nd Amendment is the cornerstone of traditionalism and conservatism. People who believe in restricting ANY part of the Bill of Rights are NOT conservative. If you are indeed new here, which I'm increasingly doubting, please take some time to read the FR home page and check out the mission statement. You'll see that the mission of Free Republic is to defend Constitutionalist conservatism. If you come on here and advocate RKBA restriction, your stay here will be very short. Believe me, I've seen it before. On a side note, does it disturb you that I can name at least 50 posters on Democratic Underground who are better than you on the 2nd Amendment?

What Traditionalists care about is low taxes, small government, a strong defense, deregulation and keeping government out of our lives as much as possible.

Then why in the world would you support someone who says...

Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.

Abortion et al are private manners and none of our damn business.

Is murder of adults a private matter that is none of our business?

514 posted on 01/26/2007 11:32:44 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bump for later reading


515 posted on 01/26/2007 11:34:13 AM PST by Kevmo (Darn, if only I had signed up 4 days earlier, I'd have a 3-digit Freeper #)
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To: Blackirish
Also I haven't seen Hunter debate but he better be damn good to even be in the same ballpark as Rudy.

Rudy lisps and is liberal. How in the world would he be better in a Republican primary debate?

516 posted on 01/26/2007 11:34:20 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Don't worry....Word play with Candidate names has an FR tradition. Eg. McInsane, Rudy McRomney, Hitlery, Clintoon, Duncan Hines, Keyester, Dukookoo, Scary Kerry, Obamanation. The sudden outrage at name bending is hilarious...

Use whatever you like best...


517 posted on 01/26/2007 11:35:50 AM PST by tomcorn
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To: Hoodlum91
I had hopes this thread wouldn't get 'keyed' like a nice shiny new car by a hoodlum. ;-) Oh well.. lol

Are they talking about you, honey?

518 posted on 01/26/2007 11:36:01 AM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: tomcorn; EternalVigilance
Don't worry....Word play with Candidate names has an FR tradition. Eg. McInsane, Rudy McRomney, Hitlery, Clintoon, Duncan Hines, Keyester, Dukookoo, Scary Kerry, Obamanation. The sudden outrage at name bending is hilarious...

You certainly know a lot about "FR traditions" for somebody who's been here all of a month.

519 posted on 01/26/2007 11:37:57 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: jmc813

I guess I could take the time to respond to your post but that would you to post the same quotes that you have posted countless times before. I've heard your arguments many times before. They do not impress me. We will just have to disagree. I didn't accept the liberals brand of coercion and I won't be compelled accept yours either.


520 posted on 01/26/2007 11:41:10 AM PST by tomcorn
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