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Man says eagle shooting was religious
Washington Times ^ | 1-29-07 | UPI

Posted on 01/29/2007 11:59:21 AM PST by JZelle

An American Indian man who shot a bald eagle on a Wyoming Indian reservation has been charged under the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act. Winslow Friday, who says he shot the bird for use in a Northern Arapaho Indian religious ceremony, could face a $100,000 fine and up to a year in prison if convicted, the Chicago Tribune reported Monday. Friday, an oil-field worker, argues that the shooting should be protected his religious freedom.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: baldeagle; churchandstate; environment; esa; indian; religion

1 posted on 01/29/2007 11:59:25 AM PST by JZelle
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To: JZelle

If that was the case then my "Ultra Liberal Hunting Church" would become very popular at election time...


2 posted on 01/29/2007 12:04:54 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: JZelle

Yesterday morning, my wife started yelling "Big Bird, Big Bird" while staring out the kitchen window. I ran and looked. A Golden Eagle swooped through the yard and landed on a neighbor's roof. Three crows flew in to harass the Eagle, but they chickened out, landing nearby and just stalking around it at a safe distance. The Eagle was so large that the crows looked like sparrows in comparison.


3 posted on 01/29/2007 12:06:26 PM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: JZelle

"An American Indian man who shot a bald eagle..."

Somehere in America a liberal's head just exploded.


4 posted on 01/29/2007 12:07:06 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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From what I've seen, the natives usually get away with it.

Unrelated, but a cool eagle photo:

5 posted on 01/29/2007 12:09:30 PM PST by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: JZelle

A Northern Arapaho.
He'd be from the Wind River Reservation.
As far as I know, Arapaho do use eagle fathers in certain ceremonies. However, they don't kill the bird. An eagle catcher lures the eagle close enough to snatch a feather.

Eagle catchers are born, not made.


6 posted on 01/29/2007 12:11:28 PM PST by SOLTC
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To: lafroste

What a sight!


7 posted on 01/29/2007 12:12:28 PM PST by skr (Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: L98Fiero

Heh, good call.


8 posted on 01/29/2007 12:14:03 PM PST by billybudd
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To: Rio

The funniest part of that picture is the smaller bird on the right getting the heck out of there. Did the Eagle make it out of there with the coyote?


9 posted on 01/29/2007 12:16:53 PM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: L98Fiero
LOL
10 posted on 01/29/2007 12:17:49 PM PST by JZelle
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To: lafroste
Crows do a lot of harassing. Since I don't have any eagles to watch for I do get a kick out of watching the crows harass the red tail hawks that are prevalent in northern NJ.
You can always tell when a hawk is around because the crows make it seem like the Amazon with all the cries they let out.
The hawk will fly around while the crows buzz him and generally make a pain in the a$$ of themselves, then the hawk just takes it to another level (thermals)...occasionally the hawks will let the crows know..ok thats enough and will flip over on their backs and show those talons...it's amusing to watch.

Doogle
11 posted on 01/29/2007 12:18:13 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: Rio

That's gonna leave a mark!


12 posted on 01/29/2007 12:18:24 PM PST by JZelle
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To: JZelle

Man says eagle shooting was religious --> Tastes like chicken!


13 posted on 01/29/2007 12:21:56 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: JZelle

"You can practice religion the way you want anywhere else in the United States, and that was what I was trying to do, but I got in trouble for it," he told the Tribune. "I know I broke the law and all but I had no choice."

Bullcrap. Individual Indians can't just kill endangered critters in the name of their freedom to practice their religion. If a Medicine Man or other spiritual leader needs an eagle feather, there is a legitimate way of getting it through U.S. Wildlife, which has plenty of accidentally killed or confiscated illegally killed eagles.

Soon, Bald Eagles will be removed from the endangered list but there will never be an open season on them.


14 posted on 01/29/2007 12:23:10 PM PST by san juan
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To: MD_Willington_1976
Man says eagle shooting was religious --> Tastes like chicken!

More like a mix between snail darter and spotted owl...

15 posted on 01/29/2007 12:23:44 PM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: Abathar
Yes My religion involves Hunting Liberals. The Sacrement is secret but it involves cedar rails, tar and feathers.

All laughter aside, the police should examine whether this Eagle killing was commercially motivated or spiritual.

This is the first time I have ever heard of a spiritual killing of an eagle with a gun. Generally it was done barehanded under a camoflauged staging with a dead dear or mountain goat as bait on top. The native Americans would reach up and grab the eagle by its legs and capture the eagle as it fed on the carcass.

I am somewhat skeptical for this reason.

16 posted on 01/29/2007 12:27:08 PM PST by Candor7
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To: Rio
Wow, did the wolf survive? Looks like he or she might have been neutered in the next few seconds.
17 posted on 01/29/2007 12:28:50 PM PST by Candor7
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To: Doogle

I witnessed two red tail hawks fighting in midair. One had some sort of rodent in its talons and the other one wanted it. The screeching is what got my attention...they were so high up! It was fascinating to watch them!

And hey, a big northern NJ hello to you!

P.S. Crows also like to harrass owls. It's interesting to see an owl flying around in the woods during the day because the crows won't leave it alone!


18 posted on 01/29/2007 12:31:42 PM PST by jnygrl
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To: JZelle

Eagle feathers are very important in Native American rituals. I think this is entirely legit. Bald eagles are quite common here in Wyoming. It's time for this "crime" to be decriminalized, at least for the Injuns. (A Native American acquaintance of mine calls himself that! Hilarious!)


19 posted on 01/29/2007 12:32:25 PM PST by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: jnygrl
Hello......yeah growing up in the hudson/essex area I didn't get to see a lot of hawks. Plenty of those passaic eagles (seagulls) LOL....
Now that I live out in way western morris, hawks sightings have become a past time
20 posted on 01/29/2007 12:38:34 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: Candor7
Wolf? :-)

FYI:

Wolf:

Coyote:

Red Fox:

The eagle above was catching a fox. :-)

21 posted on 01/29/2007 12:39:25 PM PST by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: JZelle
Friday, an oil-field worker, argues that the shooting should be protected his religious freedom.

Religious freedoms don't include the right to kill endangered animals that other citizens of all religious persuasions prefer to have around.
22 posted on 01/29/2007 12:39:25 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: lafroste

They are so amazing! I had an American Bald Eagle land in my back yard (a stone's throw from the D.C. beltway!) a couple years ago. I had the same reaction. It was holding a large gold koi in its beak, obviously pilfered from someone's water garden.


23 posted on 01/29/2007 12:40:29 PM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: JRios1968

Spotted owl, hmm and all these years I've just been using those and plastic bags for wiping to keep the tree-huggers happy... LOL


24 posted on 01/29/2007 12:45:25 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Rio

My brother-in-law spent some time in Oregon when he was younger (let's just say that was a long time ago!) Like me, he was an avid fisherman.

He related a story where he was fishing on a lake, and he saw the most amazing sight.

It seems a fish, a ways away from his boat, had just started to break water, when all of a sudden, seemingly out of nowhere, a good sized hawk screamed in an caught the fish in it's talons.

But that wasn't the half of it.

As soon as the hawk got the fish, a much bigger fish broke water at the same place, and caught the hawk, dragging it down underwater with him.

My brother-in-law said that was the last he saw of all 3.

He said it was the greatest thing he ever saw.

CA....


25 posted on 01/29/2007 12:47:51 PM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: Rio

That red fox gives new meaning to the phrase "having your @$$ handed to you."


26 posted on 01/29/2007 12:50:12 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Candor7
It looks like the fox got away. Here is the last photo of the series...

27 posted on 01/29/2007 12:57:32 PM PST by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: JZelle
There are southwest tribes that practiced cannibalism too.
Maybe that's what happened to Jimmy Hoffa.
28 posted on 01/29/2007 12:59:03 PM PST by onedoug
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To: JZelle
Last summer while fishing a small duckling got separated from the the rest and got on the other side of our boat. As I was watching it a huge shadow came over the boat and I looked up to see a Bald Eagle swooping in for the kill.

My son and I sat there stunned watching and at the very last second the duckling plunged under the water and escaped. It was amazing and I was relieved because I think our being there got the small duck separated. The duck made it to shore where the others where and the Eagle watched for about 15 minutes from the other shore before it went after some fish.

29 posted on 01/29/2007 1:05:25 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: JZelle

As far as I know, an American Indians would never intentionally kill an eagle. The eagle is a sacred creature to them.


30 posted on 01/29/2007 1:46:39 PM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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To: TChris

I vote coyote. Looks a little too heavy in the body for a fox. Plus the head looks too small in proportion to the body. A fox, at least in Missouri, is about like a pipe cleaner with a fluffy coat of hair.


31 posted on 01/29/2007 1:52:40 PM PST by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: JZelle

Oh, dear! Religion, again!


32 posted on 01/29/2007 2:03:38 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: Doogle

It's really nice out that way. We're in northern Passaic. A few "Passaic eagles" around, but not many! I was tickled when I woke up at 2 a.m. one morning to the sound of an owl hooting just outside my window.

I tell people not to judge NJ based on landing at Newark Liberty. There is so much beauty and history here. I've gotten attached to this place after moving here almost nine years ago.


33 posted on 01/29/2007 2:09:23 PM PST by jnygrl
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To: TChris

Looks like a coyote.


34 posted on 01/29/2007 2:36:13 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatter endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: TChris

My bad. It is a fox. A very big fox.


35 posted on 01/29/2007 2:40:45 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatter endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Rio

Wow that a really cool photo


36 posted on 01/29/2007 2:44:12 PM PST by packrat35 (Beware the Big Government Republicans!)
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To: TChris

I think your right it is a fox, but I doubt even a big eagle like that could carry it away. It looks more like a fight over the carrion.


37 posted on 01/29/2007 2:45:22 PM PST by sharkhawk (Bear Down Chicago Bears)
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To: Rio


And the Fox said: "Thank you Sweet Jesus!!"
38 posted on 01/29/2007 2:51:14 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Every time a jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings.)
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To: JZelle

Environofascists are getting out of hand.


39 posted on 01/29/2007 3:53:58 PM PST by chowkster
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