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Trinity United Church of Christ Website (Barak Hussein Obama's Church)
Website of Trinity United Church of Christ ^ | Unknown | Unknown

Posted on 01/30/2007 11:32:03 AM PST by BnBlFlag

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

Commitment to God Commitment to the Black Community Commitment to the Black Family Dedication to the Pursuit of Education Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence Adherence to the Black Work Ethic Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness" Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System. The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION. A congregation preaching SALVATION. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA. A congregation committed to LIBERATION. A congregation committed to RESTORATION. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.


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Can you believe this racist drivel from the web page of this Church of a Prsiential candidate?
1 posted on 01/30/2007 11:32:05 AM PST by BnBlFlag
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To: BnBlFlag

Why should they be ashamed and apologetic?

Sounds like these folks have some mighty large chips on their shoulders.


2 posted on 01/30/2007 11:33:47 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: BnBlFlag

Should read Presidential Candidate.


3 posted on 01/30/2007 11:33:54 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag
Move on, nothing to see here. Just another VRWC character assassination. /S
4 posted on 01/30/2007 11:35:08 AM PST by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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To: BnBlFlag
We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land,"

Well then, I guess you cannot be President.

5 posted on 01/30/2007 11:36:17 AM PST by andrew2527
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To: BnBlFlag
"Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981."

Many of us adopted a value system written down somewhat earlier, on stone tablets...

But howcome, if Africa is the "cradle of civilization," it took them until 1981 to adopt a "value system?"

6 posted on 01/30/2007 11:36:49 AM PST by Redbob
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To: BnBlFlag
Their Black Value System seems at odds with Galatians 3:26-28:

You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus,
for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

7 posted on 01/30/2007 11:40:38 AM PST by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: Redbob
 

The White Value System written by the Senator Byrd Recognition Committee

Commitment to God
Commitment to the White Community
Commitment to the White Family
Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
Adherence to the White Work Ethic
Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
 

8 posted on 01/30/2007 11:40:54 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Redbob

Who knows? BTW, I'm not exactly sure what the "Black Value System" is. But I have a suspicion that whatever it is, it's not too good for White Folks.


9 posted on 01/30/2007 11:42:07 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Redbob

Boy am I behind........I thought Mesopotamia (ms?) was the cradle of civilization.


10 posted on 01/30/2007 11:42:14 AM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: BnBlFlag

It is posted in #8 word for word, except Senator Byrd replaced black with white and adopted it for his group.


11 posted on 01/30/2007 11:43:53 AM PST by Always Right
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To: BnBlFlag

Sounds racist to me !


12 posted on 01/30/2007 11:43:59 AM PST by Renegade
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To: BnBlFlag
We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

Whaaaa???? Since they claim to be Christian, then where does Jesus fit into their picture? I see no mention of Him at all in their blatantly racist creed.

13 posted on 01/30/2007 11:55:42 AM PST by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: BnBlFlag; doug from upland
Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts...Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System...

Can you just hear the new Pledge of Allegiance?

I Pledge allegiance to the all Black leadership
who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
And to the tin-pot dictatorship on which they stand,
One nation, under Barak Hussein Obama...


14 posted on 01/30/2007 12:04:24 PM PST by XR7
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To: OB1kNOb

"Where does Jesus fit into their picture?
Evidently nowhere.


15 posted on 01/30/2007 12:07:58 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag
Look at what they say on their "mission statement" page:

".....to become agents of change for God who is not pleased with America’s economic mal-distribution!"

So now God is displeased with our non-distribution of wealth? And who told them that? I wonder?

16 posted on 01/30/2007 12:08:17 PM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

It looks like parts of their "Mission Statement" have more to do with the "Communist Manifesto" than the Bible and other parts resemble a "Mission Statement" of a a Black KKK.


17 posted on 01/30/2007 12:13:03 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
So now God is displeased with our non-distribution of wealth? And who told them that? I wonder?

They are not pleased by how the wealth is distributed, and they want the government to take it out of your pocket, and into theirs!

18 posted on 01/30/2007 12:16:13 PM PST by XR7
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To: BnBlFlag

"true to our native land"

Shows what I know. I sang this song in church on the Sunday before MLK day and presumed it meant the United States of America. After all, by the time it was written (1899, I looked it up), both the authors and any person singing it was most likely born in the United States.


19 posted on 01/30/2007 12:21:20 PM PST by RonF
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To: BnBlFlag
Replace Obama with an all-white candidate and change all the instances of the word "black" on this webpage to "white" and we have a candidate that couldn't get elected dogcatcher in any community in America.
20 posted on 01/30/2007 12:22:44 PM PST by wideawake
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To: BnBlFlag
We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land,"

and there is no way on God's green earth we would ever consider moving there.

21 posted on 01/30/2007 12:28:21 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Redbob

Remember what Farrakhan said? They had everything in Africa before the White man came and stole it. They even had wings and would fly around the Pyramids until White invaders came and shot them down. Well, apparently one thing they didn't have was gunpowder.


22 posted on 01/30/2007 12:28:48 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: BnBlFlag
I checked out the web site. Being a member of my church's choir, I checked out the Music ministry tab. Here's what I found for the Men's Chorus:

The Lord has blessed us with another exciting year for the Men's Chorus, and can you believe we are celebrating our 23rd year as strong African American men who are "Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian." It has been an awesome journey as we strive together as One Voice, One Choir.

I wonder - if I decided to join this church, would I be allowed to join the choir? Would they change any of the wording on their web page?

23 posted on 01/30/2007 12:34:18 PM PST by RonF
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To: American72

Ping!


24 posted on 01/30/2007 1:11:34 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag

What the heck?! I can't join their Church because I am a "Dutch-American"? What kind of Crap is that?


25 posted on 01/30/2007 1:12:26 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked)
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To: mombonn

I was thinking the same thing. Their "black values systems" sounds divisive and racist.


Colossians 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.


26 posted on 01/30/2007 1:13:49 PM PST by protest1
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To: BnBlFlag

This a UCC church. They haven't been a Bible-believing denomination for the past 50 years.


27 posted on 01/30/2007 3:05:45 PM PST by DeweyCA
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To: All

I just e-mailed them.......




I'm unabashedly white and Christian..........am I welcome?

Jeff



Suggest you do the same !!!


28 posted on 01/30/2007 3:19:35 PM PST by Jeffrey_D. (Seek first to understand, then to be understood)
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To: BnBlFlag

bttt


29 posted on 01/30/2007 3:57:41 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag
The United Church of Christ also has a popular reverend. His name is Barry Lynn who is also the Executive Director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.
30 posted on 01/30/2007 4:40:06 PM PST by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: cva66snipe

And I thought the Episcopal Church was bad.


31 posted on 01/30/2007 6:17:48 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag
And I thought the Episcopal Church was bad.

The United Church of Christ seems to be a very liberal church denomination. But it should not be confused with The Church of Christ which from what I gather is very conservative.

I kept on seeing Barry Lynn on TV enjoying using the title of reverend then one day got curious as to what church would except his philosophy so I looked it up.

32 posted on 01/30/2007 6:45:31 PM PST by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: BnBlFlag; Gamecock

Not surprising. UCC is way out in left field, has been for a long time.

What's troubling is people like Rick Warren (purportedly conservative?!) giving Obama such a good report and a platform at his church. I can't believe some 'conservative' people even on this forum can't see through Rick Warren's falsehood YET.


33 posted on 01/31/2007 7:05:03 AM PST by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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To: BnBlFlag
Update: Obama Site Removes Pastor's 'Endorsement' (Rick Warren)

How can a pastor justify continually "editing" what he's publicly said???

34 posted on 01/31/2007 7:06:24 AM PST by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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To: RexBeach
Why should they be ashamed and apologetic? Sounds like these folks have some mighty large chips on their shoulders.

No more so than any Evangelical church.

35 posted on 01/31/2007 7:07:30 AM PST by jude24
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To: BnBlFlag

Interesting, a supposedly Christian has an entire web page where the word Jesus doesn't appear once. Shows you were their hearts are.


36 posted on 01/31/2007 7:10:04 AM PST by joebuck
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To: mombonn
Their Black Value System seems at odds with Galatians 3:26-28:

They're "unapologetically Christian"... as long as that doesn't interfere with their "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA."

The fact that probably 95% of them have never set foot on Africa, and that America is their true native home, seems to be beside the point.

American blood paid for their religious freedom. American soldiers bought and paid for their right to meet as Christians without fear of extermination by Muslims. Do they even begin to comprehend the differences between African and American life, and why those differences exist??

37 posted on 01/31/2007 7:39:12 AM PST by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: jude24

I don't think so. They sound particularly embittered and that isn't Christian.


38 posted on 01/31/2007 8:00:46 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: jude24

Re your post #35. It looks like you are claiming that all Evangelical Churches have "chips on their shoulders". Is that correct?


39 posted on 01/31/2007 8:18:34 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag
A fair question.

I'm an Evangelical myself - so my critique must be read in that light. But a lot of Evangelical churches speak with a confrontational swagger a lot like this churches. You basically have to go either theologically liberal or post-modern Emergent to find a church that doesn't proclaim themselves to be "unashamed" or "unapologetic."

40 posted on 01/31/2007 8:29:15 AM PST by jude24
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To: RexBeach
They sound particularly embittered and that isn't Christian.

That certainly may not be consistent with Christian virtues, but it is not at all uncommon in Christendom.

41 posted on 01/31/2007 8:30:35 AM PST by jude24
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To: BnBlFlag

BTTT bump


42 posted on 06/15/2007 1:01:03 AM PDT by LowOiL (Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9))
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To: LowOiL

In response to post 13, Jesus Christ is mentioned on their website under the Mission tab.


43 posted on 07/05/2007 8:28:01 AM PDT by Sam1985r
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To: BnBlFlag

So he belongs to the Church of Blame Whitey.


44 posted on 07/05/2007 8:30:33 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (take my special prosecutor, please)
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To: Sam1985r

45 posted on 07/06/2007 12:31:32 AM PDT by LowOiL (Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9))
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To: LowOiL

BTTT


46 posted on 07/06/2007 12:33:19 AM PDT by LowOiL (Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9))
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To: RexBeach
We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization.

COMMENT:

Sorry for you brethren, that you post allegiance to Africa your native land.

You forgot to mention that you are race-baiting enablers of the worst kind, passing themselves off as phony supposed American citizens.

In my lowly red state wannabe opinion, you are no better than the cowardly muck diving Jihad sympathizers that permeate a lying scumbag group like WHO CAIRs.

Well, with all the money you have bilked out of a naive congregation a kin to a group like Jim Jones, buy plenty if one-way tickets.

Then, when the mood hits your sorry butts, just get up and move back to deep darkest black Africa.

A land where your children will probably die before their time, go uneducated, can run half-naked, drink polluted water, die of mass starvation, suffer from diseases such as AIDS and fight against other blacks who want to kill you because they belong to an abysmal religion of piece called Islam.

I am sure those in Africa would put up with your misguided views and laugh behind your incredibly ignorant backs that you would openly admit to being so miserable in America.

Laughing in great guffaws of amazement that you idolized mostly rat infested dictatorial nations over the sweet life of your current Chicago digs.

I will tell you straight up and this is the truth.

If you are so ashamed of being American citizens then do not let the door hit you in your sorry butts on the way out of the country.

Frankly, I am tired of constantly being sucker punched in the emotional gut by narrow-minded groups with parasitic scam artist leaders like yours, Jackson and Sharpton.

Really, I want you to be honest with yourselves for once, don’t you think it is time to assimilate into the main stream of America life.

Flame Away

47 posted on 07/06/2007 1:42:54 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: BnBlFlag
Can you believe this racist drivel from the web page of this Church of a Prsiential candidate?

More than that, this is the presidential candidate who has accused fundamentalist Christians of being divisive. I sure hope America doesn't elect this hypocrite racist.

48 posted on 07/06/2007 1:46:30 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: OKIEDOC
One other small item, why can black dominated churches get away skirting the law but white churches cower before the hostile IRS.
49 posted on 07/06/2007 7:57:17 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: OKIEDOC
We are all children of God and we should act like brothers and sisters rather than blacks and whites. Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ did not die for a white man or a black man he died for all of us. How can we praise, worship, obey, respect, and most of all love Him with our whole heart if we have petty thoughts on skin color!!! Our priorities are not right the Church is not to be separated by skin color but rather worship our King and wait upon the day until our Groom returns. Praise the Lord

Love a Christian Girl

50 posted on 11/26/2007 1:50:44 PM PST by NAWEOFHIM
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