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Giuliani Would Defeat Hillary in New Jersey (Quinnipiac alert)
angus-reid.com ^ | 1/31/2007 | Staff

Posted on 01/31/2007 5:46:06 PM PST by Dark Skies

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To: Jim Robinson

Amen.


321 posted on 02/01/2007 5:49:37 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Thanks for the good news ping. Let's turn those blue states red!


322 posted on 02/01/2007 5:55:18 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: You Dirty Rats
Unless a viable option comes up in the next year, Rudy is the clear choice. He is clearly the candidate the 'rats would most fear.

Actually, he isn't. Top Democrat strategists worry far more about Romney, especially if he can push past the senseless evangelical opposition.

Top Democrat strategists know they have nothing to play against Romney except the religion card. Ted Kennedy's goons and the Massachusett Democrat Party machinery spent months and tens of millions of dollars trying to uncover weaknesses in Romeny's personal and professional life and came up empty.

Rudy, on the other hand, is dragging an 18-wheeler full of infidelities, poor judgment, and radical left wing tendencies. And the Democrats have nearly a complete inventory of all of them.

323 posted on 02/01/2007 6:01:07 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: nopardons

I am certain Rudy if he is the nominee will hold Ohio and have a better that even chance of flipping PA, woo hoo!


324 posted on 02/01/2007 6:05:37 AM PST by JimFreedom (We cannot forsake progress for perfection - Jim Nussle)
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To: Dolphy; PhiKapMom

I like the Keating idea but having a little extra something like a VP from the southern tier would be good strategery to me to hold that region in place. No offense PHIKAPMOM, LOL!


325 posted on 02/01/2007 6:08:22 AM PST by JimFreedom (We cannot forsake progress for perfection - Jim Nussle)
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To: Spiff; Jim Robinson
We've got a couple good choices.

Duncan Hunter looks to be building up steam quite nicely. Even getting a lot more play in the MSM. FR's poll shows Hunter being the leader of the pack here. The more I learn about him, the more I like him as a candidate.

Rudy McRomney will get ZERO support from people like me. We aren't "unappeasable". Hunter. Gingrich. Tancredo. Brownback. Pawlenty. All good choices that have a lot more "conservative" credibility than the Big 3 RINO's being noised about.

326 posted on 02/01/2007 6:10:33 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Dark Skies
(sic) re: all the erroneous "(R)" designations.

Actually, those are about as accurate as the (R) after Giuliani's name.

327 posted on 02/01/2007 6:20:25 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: JimFreedom
having a little extra something like a VP from the southern tier would be good strategery to me to hold that region in place.

Yes. If a more conservative candidate starts to pick up momentum and surpass Rudy, I would be just as happy to have Rudy in the VP spot. I just think it would be a great victory for us to take key blue states. At least we would have a decisive win rather than a squeaker like 2000. Taking states like NY, NJ, OH, PA and FL would be a real victory. Once he's in, if he doesn't meet the traditional Republican agenda as he is promising to do, we kick him out in 2012. It beats losing the WH to Hillary or Obama while the rats control both houses.

328 posted on 02/01/2007 6:24:30 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: Spiff
"The Rudy-Rooters seem committed to repeating the same failed strategies which would ultimately result in a Democrat being elected in 2008."

I think that is exactly the plan, to remove the entire conservative movement, regardless of who wins the Presidency.

329 posted on 02/01/2007 6:47:24 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: TommyDale

With all due respect, it's not just the Rudy rooters. How do you explain his front runner status in the various states being polled? There are tens of thousands of Republican voters who are not freepers.


330 posted on 02/01/2007 6:54:04 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: nopardons

Would love to hear!


331 posted on 02/01/2007 6:56:37 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: freeperfromnj

I addressed this yesterday. Rudy may only poll 13% here on FR, and he may even poll 30% within the entire party. Even if he pulls 75% (highly unlikely) of the GOP vote, the remaining 25% or more will NEVER accept him with his liberal stances on abortion, partial birth abortion, gun control, stem cell research, or homosexual agenda. Rudy will not gain the support of the millions of Religious Right voters that GWB benefited from. Those people were mobilized in an extremely well organized effort to win back a majority in the Supreme Court. They have no reason to endorse a gun-grabbing, homosexual-agenda abortionist in 2008.

Going into a general election already outnumbered by Democrats, he would have to pull a huge number of Dem votes. When they are given the choice of a Dem they trust against a Dem who claims to be conserevative (Rudy) why do you think they will vote for? He cannot win.


332 posted on 02/01/2007 7:04:37 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: TommyDale

I missed seeing your post yesterday. Thanks for the explanation. Given the close election in 2000, isn't the reverse also true? The same way the conservatives sit out Rudy, won't the middle of the road Republicans sit out an ultra conservative?


333 posted on 02/01/2007 7:16:22 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
"Given the close election in 2000, isn't the reverse also true? The same way the conservatives sit out Rudy, won't the middle of the road Republicans sit out an ultra conservative?"

Yes, that could very well happen. That is why it is important to unite behind a nominee that can pull all these factions together, not drive them apart. I contend that Rudy Giuliani will drive a huge wedge between the GOP and the Religious Right. Just look at what his supporters have done here at FR!

334 posted on 02/01/2007 7:22:49 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Wouldn't surprise me to see him as VP or Attorney General. Think I will change my tagline to Rudy/Keating! Two guys that went through terrorism bombings and support our military 100%!

What a great ticket--Keating a former governor and former FBI. Does he any/much 'baggage'?

335 posted on 02/01/2007 8:34:04 AM PST by Tarheel (If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere... Rudy--2008)
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To: TommyDale
he would have to pull a huge number of Dem votes

No, he'd have to pull from the big chunk that's in the middle and votes either way. My opinion is 1/3 the people vote either way, 1/3 are solid right and 1/3 are solid left. The middle gets split and produces close races like 2000 and 2004. Guiliani I think is capable of getting a decent number of R voters, some of the D voters and getting alot of those people in the middle.
336 posted on 02/01/2007 10:03:32 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: visualops

You haven't noticed how polarized we have become since 2000 have you? There isn't a lot in the middle any more.


337 posted on 02/01/2007 10:31:28 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: Dolphy

Gov Keating was never really considered for anything after Bush ran in 2000. I don't know of anything in his background that would have taken him out except he tells it like he it is.


338 posted on 02/01/2007 10:37:22 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Keating -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: Tarheel

Unless you count baggage he took on the teacher's union here in OK and they went ballistic.


339 posted on 02/01/2007 10:38:07 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Keating -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: JimFreedom

We are part of the south! :)


340 posted on 02/01/2007 10:42:12 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Keating -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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