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Bishop: Denying Communion to Obstinate Pro-Abortion Catholic Politicians " ...the only choice"
Life Site News ^ | 01.31.07 | Steve Jalsevac

Posted on 02/01/2007 9:51:23 PM PST by Coleus

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1 posted on 02/01/2007 9:51:25 PM PST by Coleus
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2 posted on 02/01/2007 9:52:59 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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I love how the Catholic Church is gaining the gusto that will save many lives in the long run.


3 posted on 02/01/2007 9:56:51 PM PST by Niuhuru
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God bless Bishop Coakley!!!!


4 posted on 02/01/2007 9:56:57 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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5 posted on 02/01/2007 10:08:07 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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I love how the Catholic Church is gaining the gusto that will save many lives in the long run.

I appreciate the gesture (and I do mean that), but that is all it is--a gesture. It used to be that a politician had to at least pay lip service to Christianity in some form while in the public eye. In a little while, Christianity will be a liability and being denied communion will be a badge of honor in American politics (how sad that will be!). Because of this, I can't really think that this will "save many lives", though I pray to God that it would.

6 posted on 02/01/2007 10:14:37 PM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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HEY MONK Bishop with brains


7 posted on 02/01/2007 10:14:58 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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Too bad all of them aren't more like him.


8 posted on 02/01/2007 10:16:36 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: Señor Zorro

Well, the Church is taking a stand.


9 posted on 02/01/2007 10:17:21 PM PST by Niuhuru
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To: Coleus

Bishop Naumann is Archbishop of Kansas City, Kansas. The Archbishop of Kansas City, Missouri is Bishop Finn.


10 posted on 02/01/2007 10:21:56 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world." - Pope Blessed Pius IX)
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I think, one has to determine yet at what point it can be determined that they have come to that state of obstinate refusal to desist from that condition of manifest, grave sin. I think we have an obligation as bishops, as pastors, to try to work with them to bring them to a change of heart and refusing them Communion would be, not the first, but more than likely, the last stage in a serious of steps.

Has any Bishop refused any vocally public pro-abortion, pro-contraception, Pro embryonic stem cell research politicians Communion?

I realize Bishop Coakley says it would be the last stage in a series of steps so, I guess I'm asking if anyone knows how many steps, chances, years the process would take.

11 posted on 02/01/2007 11:14:20 PM PST by sockmonkey
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Well, the Church is taking a stand.

Like I said, I appreciate that. I just doubt the efficacy of the action.

12 posted on 02/01/2007 11:49:57 PM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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Too bad they don't take the same stand with child molesters and the bishops who protect them.
13 posted on 02/01/2007 11:51:14 PM PST by chadwimc
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You could carve more backbone from a banana. These bishops are pathetic. Schwarzenegger gets all the communion he wants from my bishop along with every other pro-abortion Dem in Sacramento. The same everywhere else. A few priests have refused communion here and there, but the bishops never do. Gutless wonders. I'm thoroughly ashamed of them.

Nor have they cleaned out the pedophiles and embezzlers. Check your Dante and see how many bishops he put in Hell in the Inferno. Same then. Same now.
14 posted on 02/02/2007 12:29:06 AM PST by johnmark7
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Has any Bishop refused any vocally public pro-abortion, pro-contraception, Pro embryonic stem cell research politicians Communion?

As far as I know, those politicians have avoided putting it to the test with those bishops who have come out against giving them Communion. No real inconvenience for them, of course, since the DC Cardinal McCarrick is apparently on their side.

15 posted on 02/02/2007 1:44:06 AM PST by maryz
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What you say is probably already true among hard-core Dems, but there are still not enough of them in the US to elect these candidates without support from the still sizable number of us who are Christians. It may certainly happen, of course, that they will decide there aren't enough of us and they don't need us anymore, in which case they will overtly reject the Church.

And one of the reasons for this was precisely the silence of the institutional Church. Everybody knows that silence is consent, and silently letting these "Catholic" politicians get away with it gave people the impression that the Church was not a force to be reckoned with and was something that would soon be irrelevant. And it was (and is) a true scandal to the devoted laypeople who have worked so hard for so many years to oppose abortion, while the official Church, the members of the heirarchy, were busy attending parties for the same evil politicians who were promoting it.


16 posted on 02/02/2007 3:36:13 AM PST by livius
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The current DC archbishop is Donald Wuerl, and he's not a cardinal yet. Although I'm afraid he will be shortly.


17 posted on 02/02/2007 3:37:15 AM PST by livius
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I mean, the man has been at it for so long that I fear that perhaps his heart has been so hardened that I think only grace is going to bring about the change that is needed for his conversion and all who are involved in the abortion industry.

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He may be right, but I believe that even the most hardened hearts can be changed.

What a wonderful man is this Bishop Coakley. We are fortunate indeed to have men of his integrity and perseverance working in the Church.

Thanks for posting this article. It gives me hope.

18 posted on 02/02/2007 5:37:24 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: livius
I don't keep up . . . oh, my.

Thanks.

19 posted on 02/02/2007 5:50:02 AM PST by maryz
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20 posted on 02/02/2007 6:15:39 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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