Global Warming Man-Made, Will Continue

ABC News ^ | Feb 2, 2007 | SETH BORENSTEIN

[LibLieSlayer]

abc=Anti-American Bull$hit Corporation

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[palmer]

Is it me or does it seem that the Global Warming Nuts have stepped up the rhetoric in the last few months?

I'm still trying to figure that out. I am certain that the climate models will show the real answer within 10 years. Perhaps they already have and the special interests involved are panicking over losing their gravy train.

[avacado]

"Do you see the incredible flaw in that statement?"

Yes I do see the flaw. Nowhere in their argument can they actually say conclusively that global warming is man-made so they dance all around it.

[READINABLUESTATE]

International scientists and officials hailed a report Friday saying that global warming is "very likely" caused by man, and that hotter temperatures and rises in sea level "would continue for centuries" no matter how much humans control their pollution.


This statement says it all. If we are powerless to stop it, then how in the heck did we have the power to start it?????

[pieceofthepuzzle]

The relationships are complex. For example CO2 levels are also affected significantly by the amount of deforestation that occurs in developing countries that haven't put efficient agricultural approaches into practice. "A single mature tree can absorb carbon dioxide at a rate of 48 lbs./year..." Blaming the US, as the world is want to do, is a convenient and oversimplified reflex.

Also, I really like to know from these particular climatologists whether or not they would advocate for reducing CO2 ppm to 1750 levels, if the technology were currently available. Are they confident enough in how well they understand determinants of climate to roll the dice by decreasing CO2 levels? What do the models say about our climate if we reduced CO2 ppm to those pre-industrial levels?

[Beowulf]

[oh8eleven]

So what is the point of Kyoto?
Global socialism - with the US taxpayer footing the bill.

[tcostell]

I just don't get why the left has fallen so hard for this idea. Coincidence is not causality, but to be fair, I'd like to make my time and energy available.

If you're a left wing activist lurker amazed at the density of the right, I'm now making myself available to you.

I'm a professional economist with nearly 20 years experience working in statistics, and have devoted my entire career to determining the cause and effect on non linear systems like the stock market or weather patters. If you point me at the data, I'm going to spend the time and analyze it with a completely open mind.

If it's as clear cut as you all (continually) say, then it should be apparent to someone with my training and experience, and I will say so loudly and often here on FreeRepublic, and by doing so, help to silence some of your most vocal critics.

Even if I am convinced that global warming is occurring and that it's cause is human industrial output, I will probably continue to disagree about what to do about it. But at least you will have engaged the hard right in some small way and made it a discussion of policy instead of theology.

Mind you, I'm not interested in the analysis of some expert, I want access to the data upon which they base their conclusions. In our view on FR (the consensus view of the right) the "experts" advocating a government led global warming solution have lost all credibility because of past hyperbolic statements about the coming ice age, and the 30 million women and children they killed by irresponsibly banning DDT.

I'm not interested in their analysis, but I'll take their data and invest the time and energy necessary to come to understand it. And once I do, regardless of my conclusions, I'll tell everyone on FR what I think.

It's a chance for you to win a small battle in the war of ideas.

[Locomotive Breath]

And in other news, international scientists threw a big party at news that their predictions that a massive meteorite will strike the Earth and kill everyone in fact is correct.

And in other news, international scientists threw a big party at news that their predictions will cause a massive increase in funding for their "research".

[backtothestreets]

I accept full responsibility! It's my love of beans. The emissions cannot be avoided. Not surprised they are melting icebergs. Have witnessed the emissions move vast numbers of people rather quickly, so the melting icebergs, glaciers and polar caps is believable too. So sorry!

[RexFamilia]

International scientists and officials who advocate global warming are "very likely" eff'ing idiots

[mc5cents]

The scientists said the changes are "very likely" caused by human activity, a phrase that translates to a more than 90 percent certainty that global warming is caused by man's ..."

I have been in the field of science for some time now and I have not been aware of the term "very likely" translating to "more than 90% certainty.

You obviously have not been associated with the right scientists. I bet you have never even spoken to Prof. Albert Gore, have you? See.

[palmer]

Thanks. You could start with the data in post 16 and after determining how the measurements are made and what they really represent, put some error bars around the readings and see if 380ppm (today's reading) is off the charts as they claim it is.

[avacado]

"You obviously have not been associated with the right scientists. I bet you have never even spoken to Prof. Albert Gore, have you? See."

LOL! You are so right! I skipped Prof. Albert Gore's lectures.


"The devil is in the details.... daaaaaaaaaarling..."

[From One - Many]

So these idiots are going to meet in France and try to blame nature on man? If man doesn't believe man caused nature then man is in the clear. I guess the lawyers are becoming nervous. It will be difficult to serve a summons on God.

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John MaCain: "The debate on climate change is over"

[avacado]

[fatnotlazy]

The Republicans in the congress should draft the following legislation:

All thermostats in Federal buildings-Including the Capitol (every post office etc) should be set at 64 degrees in the winter. And the air condition systems should be shut off and disconnected in the summer-there is no reason to have the Capitol or post offices air conditioned-air conditioning is a luxury that is contributing to the global warming hysteria.

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And take away their limousines...issue each of them a Yugo. :)

[palmer]

McCain sums it up perfectly, there is no more debate, just the repetition of dogmatic certainty with scientific lies and the escalation of alarmism.

[SueRae]

Also newsworthy is the fact that this is the FASTEST the UN has ever acted on ANYTHING.

Ask who stands to benefit monetarily from this 'pronouncement'.


When they figure out how to plug volcanoes and stop all forest fires, let me know what more I can do to help. Until then, the chicken littles of the world can shove it.