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Count me in that group.

1 posted on 02/04/2007 4:29:14 AM PST by StACase
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To: StACase
Well you see....1970 technology was very primitive....and they just couldn't get the correct numbers that fit.....that 5000 number was wrong....yeah....It was actually 200,000...yeah...uh...yeah....so the numbers have declined...

I can play lib games too....
2 posted on 02/04/2007 4:32:49 AM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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To: StACase
attempt by dedicated greens to restrict energy use

Fools. That will never, ever, be the answer to anything.

3 posted on 02/04/2007 4:33:07 AM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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I was watching "Planet of the Apes" recently, that 1968 film, which was technically not bad for a movie made way back then. But it was a bit of a silly premise for a movie. Anyhow, at the very end, when Charlton Heston sees the statue of Liberty poking out of the sand, it didn't make a lot of sense to me. The statue is located on an island that is off of another island (Manhattan). So how does it get to a beach on the mainland pretty much fully intact? Also, there were mountains along the beach. Now you walk the beaches from Maine to Florida and not see any mountains at all.

This movie was obviously filmed on the West Coast (where there are plenty of cliffs) and passed off as being the East Coast. Also, some of those Apes were pretty damn intelligent. But why were they speaking English?

4 posted on 02/04/2007 4:38:40 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I'm 43 days from outliving Steve Irwin)
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The world’s premier polar bear expert has stated that the polar bears are in no danger from the media manufactured global warming crisis.

“No evidence exists that suggests that both [polar] bears and the conservation systems that regulate them will not adapt and respond to the new conditions,” said Dr. Mitch Taylor, polar bear biologist for the government of Nunavut. “Polar bears have persisted through many similar climate cycles.”

His statement packs a punch in three different ways.

First, the polar bear population is not declining as the eco-fascist liars would have us believe.

Second, the bears, which have been on the earth for hundreds of thousands of years, have adapted to previous climate changes, which, by the way, were not caused by evil man.

And third, it knocks the putrid Marxists off track who want to impose a world-wide socialist system by stealing money from hard working Americans via a hefty carbon tax and redistributing that money to assorted thieves and brutal dictators around the world.

There are 20 significant populations of polar bears around the top of the globe. Of the 13 in Canada, 11 are either stable or increasing in size. "They are not going extinct, or even appear to be affected at present," said Taylor in a story published by the Edmonton (Canada) Journal.

Writes the Edmonton Journal: “In Canada, where a decade ago our Arctic had 12,000 bears, Taylor and other bear specialists estimate there are now 15,000 bears, an increase of 25 per cent in just 10 years. Worldwide there are 22,000 to 25,000 polar bears, whereas 50 years ago -- before the first SUV, before Kyoto, before most people had even heard of the global warming theory -- there were just 8,000 to 10,000.”

Yet in spite of the evidence, the administration has caved in and will probably list the polar bear as “threatened.”

The reasons are both political and logical.

Rather than trying to explain the actual science of global warming to brainwashed Americans whipped into a frenzy by a howling eco-fascist mob of propagandists in the media, it’s more prudent, at this time, to throw the goosestepping Marxists a bone to shut them up.


5 posted on 02/04/2007 4:40:56 AM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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polar bear numbers increased dramatically from around 5,000 to as many as 25,000 today.

More evidence of global cooling!

6 posted on 02/04/2007 4:46:28 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters
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"Polar bears have thrived during warmer climates because they are omnivores just like their cousins the brown and black bears. Though polar bears currently eat seals more than anything else, they also will feast on fish, kelp, caribou, ducks, sea birds, the occasional beluga whale, musk ox and scavenged whale and walrus carcasses."

According to enviro-nuts, Polar bear eat seal exclusively, and only during one time of the year when they are having their pups on the ice. during that part of their migration path.

The rest of the time, polar bears hibernate.

Yet, people believe these idiots, and send them money so that they can bum around all their lives, smoke too pot and annoy everyone, including the animals.

These are the same anti- human, anti hunting, anti everything nut cases we have in Callifornia. most belong in prison, not advising the President. I hope he rethinks his opinion.

7 posted on 02/04/2007 4:50:16 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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One thing in the enviro-nazis favor is that polar bears have this PR image of some great big, goofy, fuzzy critters. I mean, we've all seen those pictures of the polor bear laying on his tummy in the snow, laying around on his back like a couch potato, floating around his poo at the zoo...But take away the word "polar" and see how this article would read:

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"A prime example of its effectiveness came in late December when environmental lobbyists persuaded the Bush administration to recommend that the polar bear be listed as threatened due to global warming.

"In lieu of evidence, environmentalists offered mostly anecdotes that polar bears are at risk: isolated reports of a few polar bears drowning in Arctic waters normally containing sea ice as well as a few instances of cannibalism among polar bears.

"Then they took a long leap of logic to posit that human-caused global warming will melt most of the ice at the North Pole within 50 years, and that without the ice, polar bears will be unable to hunt seals, their preferred prey.

"Fortunately, both for policy and the polar bears, the plight of this one population does not reflect the population trend as a whole. Indeed, since the 1970s, while the world was warming, polar bear numbers increased dramatically from around 5,000 to as many as 25,000 today.

"Historically, polar bears have thrived in temperatures even warmer than at present -- during the medieval warm period 1,000 years ago and during the Holocene Climate Optimum between 5,000 and 9,000 years ago.

"Polar [These] bears have thrived during warmer climates because they are omnivores just like their cousins the brown and black bears. Though polar bears currently eat seals more than anything else, they also will feast on fish, kelp, caribou, ducks, sea birds, the occasional beluga whale, musk ox and scavenged whale and walrus carcasses.

"Mitchell Taylor, a biologist with Nunavut Territorial government in Canada, pointed out in testimony to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service that modest warming may be beneficial to bears since it creates better habitat for seals.

"Alaska's polar bear population is stable, and Taylor's research shows that the Canadian polar bear population has increased 25 percent from 12,000 to 15,000 during the past decade...."

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Reads a lot different this way, doesn't it?

10 posted on 02/04/2007 5:06:24 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: StACase
polar bear numbers increased dramatically from around 5,000 to as many as 25,000 today.

It seems obvious to me that this increase in the polar bear population (they ARE warm-blooded, you know) has directly led to the global temperature increase.

GRAB YOUR RIFLES AND HEAD NORTH, EVERYONE!

BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

13 posted on 02/04/2007 5:25:06 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Mark


20 posted on 02/04/2007 8:01:40 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American, or you are a liberal)
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Worse than that - they want to stop drilling and exploration on Alaskas North Slope. Polar bears are doing fime in Alaska, but the asshats at the USF&WS would stop all new activity on the slope.

If you think gas in Califlower is steep now, just wait.


23 posted on 02/04/2007 11:46:33 AM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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