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Posted on 02/04/2007 9:52:28 AM PST by GMMAC
Laughing at global warming
I know, it's terrible.
But with things getting so stupid on Parliament Hill,
how can anyone help it?
By Lorrie Goldstein
Toronto Sun
Sunday, February 4, 2007
I'm sorry. I know global warming is a serious subject, particularly with the release of the latest report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
But at some point in many big stories, mass hysteria takes over and the subject, no matter how serious, "jumps the shark" as they say on TV.
For me, that moment happened last week while reading a story in the Globe and Mail and coming across this hilarious nugget.
"As Conservative MPs emerged from their weekly caucus meeting in Ottawa, reporters asked whether they believe that increasing levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are causing global warming. Most refused to answer the question directly."
Good gawd! Has it come to this? Are not just global warming "deniers," as Stephane Dion calls them, but mere global warming "refusers to answer the question directly" to be hunted down, as we once did witches?
Just for fun, let's imagine I was one of those MPs, confronted by the media mob.
Media mob: "Mr. Goldstein, do you believe that increasing levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are causing global warming?"
Me: "I beg your pardon?"
Media mob: "You heard the question, do you believe it?"
Me: "You're not serious."
Media mob: "You better believe we are."
Me (Sigh): "Okay, get your tapes rolling. Ready? Here we go ... You ask me if I believe increasing levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are causing global warming. I will go even further. I will state categorically that greenhouse gases cause global warming. If greenhouse gases did not cause global warming, we would all be dead, having frozen to death. The reason we have not, is called the 'greenhouse effect'. If any of you kept your Grade 8 science textbooks, look it up.
"Now, I presume that what you would have asked me, if any of you knew what you were talking about, is whether I believe man-made greenhouse gas emissions caused primarily by the burning of fossil fuels such as coal, oil and natural gas, and by deliberate deforestation, are causing a significant increase in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in the Earth's atmosphere, and an attendant increase in the earth's temperature, that cannot be explained by natural causes.
"The answer is I do not know. I am not a scientist. But I accept the IPCC's conclusion that the earth is warming and that it is "very likely" -- at least a 90% certainty -- that human activity is the cause.
"However, I am also aware, as a layman, that there is a great deal of debate within the scientific community on how quickly this is happening, on how dramatically it will impact on the world's climate and on what we should do about it, which is where I come in as a policy maker.
"I trust scientists to continue their dispassionate investigations of these issues, employing the professional scepticism you people think is a dirty word, but is in fact a fundamental part of what is known as the 'scientific method'.
"Again, if any of you still have your Grade 8 science textbooks, look it up.
"Finally, responsible scientists are not the people screaming in our ears that we're all going to die from the weather in a few years, that the evil western nations and all of us living in them who caused this must be punished, and that anyone who disagrees with them is a climate change 'denier,' the implication being that they are little better than someone who denies the Holocaust -- an absurd, unjust and morally revolting comparison.
Won't be intimidated
"This is where science has been hijacked by radical ideology and media hype and I will not let it -- or you -- intimidate me into making rash statements or decisions about an issue that is so important, not only to my constituents and their descendants, but to all of us who live on Earth.
"One final thing. Please, look up 'carbon dioxide' in your Grade 8 science textbooks, so that you will understand how essential it is to all life on Earth. Then, look up 'carbon-based life forms' and try to find one. This will not be as hard as it sounds. Trust me. And now, ladies and gentlemen of the media, kindly GET THE !@?!@$ OUT OF MY WAY!!!!!"
Media mob: "Burn the witch! Burn the witch!!"
lorrie.goldstein@tor.sunpub.com
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Had any Conservative politician made such a statement, the headline would be, "Conservatives Deny Global Warming".
But ... will there be a politician with the backbone necessary to actually give a similar answer? I'd hold by breath waiting for it to happen but don't want to deal with that carbon dioxide crisis.
Just imagine how funny terrorists must find our current obsession with climate change is. We are focusing on something that may not occur for 100 years or more, while they plan on nuke attacks within 5 years.
At this point I am shivering at global warming....we, like a lot of the country are experiencing cold.
"In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish."
- Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day 1970
Considering that we know the mean global temperature was 3 degree Centigrade higher during the Little Climate Optimum we SHOULD be laughing at the Govt stooges and their manufactured hysteria over a completely normal, natural part of the climate cycle.
IF they want to know what Canada's climate is going to be like they can read the Viking sagas about their trips to Vineland (hint they called it Vineland because they could grow grapes there) which was on the coast of Newfoundland. (Another hint. It is too cold currently to grow grapes on Newfoundland. )
Medieval Warm Period
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period
Exactly. Even more ridiculous is Al's nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize because of his work on global warming. If we could just shut his mouth, we avoid enough hot air to lower the world's temperature by at least 2 degrees.
The real deal?
Against the grain: Some scientists deny global warming exists
Lawrence Solomon, National PostPublished: Friday, February 02, 2007
Astrophysicist Nir Shariv, one of Israel's top young scientists, describes the logic that led him -- and most everyone else -- to conclude that SUVs, coal plants and other things man-made cause global warming.
Step One Scientists for decades have postulated that increases in carbon dioxide and other gases could lead to a greenhouse effect.
Step Two As if on cue, the temperature rose over the course of the 20th century while greenhouse gases proliferated due to human activities.
Step Three No other mechanism explains the warming. Without another candidate, greenhouses gases necessarily became the cause.
Dr. Shariv, a prolific researcher who has made a name for himself assessing the movements of two-billion-year-old meteorites, no longer accepts this logic, or subscribes to these views. He has recanted: "Like many others, I was personally sure that CO2 is the bad culprit in the story of global warming. But after carefully digging into the evidence, I realized that things are far more complicated than the story sold to us by many climate scientists or the stories regurgitated by the media.
"In fact, there is much more than meets the eye."
Dr. Shariv's digging led him to the surprising discovery that there is no concrete evidence -- only speculation -- that man-made greenhouse gases cause global warming. Even research from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change-- the United Nations agency that heads the worldwide effort to combat global warming -- is bereft of anything here inspiring confidence. In fact, according to the IPCC's own findings, man's role is so uncertain that there is a strong possibility that we have been cooling, not warming, the Earth. Unfortunately, our tools are too crude to reveal what man's effect has been in the past, let alone predict how much warming or cooling we might cause in the future.
All we have on which to pin the blame on greenhouse gases, says Dr. Shaviv, is "incriminating circumstantial evidence," which explains why climate scientists speak in terms of finding "evidence of fingerprints." Circumstantial evidence might be a fine basis on which to justify reducing greenhouse gases, he adds, "without other 'suspects.' " However, Dr. Shaviv not only believes there are credible "other suspects," he believes that at least one provides a superior explanation for the 20th century's warming.
"Solar activity can explain a large part of the 20th-century global warming," he states, particularly because of the evidence that has been accumulating over the past decade of the strong relationship that cosmic- ray flux has on our atmosphere. So much evidence has by now been amassed, in fact, that "it is unlikely that [the solar climate link] does not exist."
The sun's strong role indicates that greenhouse gases can't have much of an influence on the climate -- that C02 et al. don't dominate through some kind of leveraging effect that makes them especially potent drivers of climate change. The upshot of the Earth not being unduly sensitive to greenhouse gases is that neither increases nor cutbacks in future C02 emissions will matter much in terms of the climate.
Even doubling the amount of CO2 by 2100, for example, "will not dramatically increase the global temperature," Dr. Shaviv states. Put another way: "Even if we halved the CO2 output, and the CO2 increase by 2100 would be, say, a 50% increase relative to today instead of a doubled amount, the expected reduction in the rise of global temperature would be less than 0.5C. This is not significant."
The evidence from astrophysicists and cosmologists in laboratories around the world, on the other hand, could well be significant. In his study of meteorites, published in the prestigious journal, Physical Review Letters, Dr. Shaviv found that the meteorites that Earth collected during its passage through the arms of the Milky Way sustained up to 10% more cosmic ray damage than others. That kind of cosmic ray variation, Dr. Shaviv believes, could alter global temperatures by as much as 15% --sufficient to turn the ice ages on or off and evidence of the extent to which cosmic forces influence Earth's climate.
In another study, directly relevant to today's climate controversy, Dr. Shaviv reconstructed the temperature on Earth over the past 550 million years to find that cosmic ray flux variations explain more than two-thirds of Earth's temperature variance, making it the most dominant climate driver over geological time scales. The study also found that an upper limit can be placed on the relative role of CO2 as a climate driver, meaning that a large fraction of the global warming witnessed over the past century could not be due to CO2 -- instead it is attributable to the increased solar activity.
CO2 does play a role in climate, Dr. Shaviv believes, but a secondary role, one too small to preoccupy policymakers. Yet Dr. Shaviv also believes fossil fuels should be controlled, not because of their adverse affects on climate but to curb pollution.
"I am therefore in favour of developing cheap alternatives such as solar power, wind, and of course fusion reactors (converting Deuterium into Helium), which we should have in a few decades, but this is an altogether different issue." His conclusion: "I am quite sure Kyoto is not the right way to go."
"Dr. Shaviv found that the meteorites that Earth collected during its passage through the arms of the Milky Way sustained up to 10% more cosmic ray damage than others."
Calling Reed Richards, calling Reed Richards.
Even if one accepts the so-called consensus view that the earth is warming and humans are causing it, then someone has to explain to me how the Earth survived the warming that made Greenland habitable by the Vikings. All the geniuses are claiming that global warming will be disastrous. If that's the case, then how did we and the Earth survive the increase in heat of a thousand years ago or so?
That's what liberals are jumping on, now that they have 300 "scientists" saying global warming is caused by man.
Canadians should be worried about what is obvious, but media won't say- Canadians are about to let liberals sign away the soveriegnty of the nation.
Seems to me that the Canadians aren't the only ones that should be worried about that ....
Same here. -38c last night/this morning, 20c below normal, and there are ninny's on CTV arguing about "global warming".
the libs and DPs are retarded.
Hilarious.
I just had to Google Paul Ehrlich and read his Wikipedia entry. He is allied with every liberal organization since kingdom come. An early Al Gore if you will.
Question I want put to Hillary Clinton:
"Senator Clinton, why is the Democrat solution to global warming taxing Americans while you do not say anything about Communist countries like China getting to poison our earth?"
I don't know how old the writer is but I can assure her that I am a 'carbon-based life forms'.
And, I'll also agree that global warming debates are a joke and whether or not we can blame fossil fuels and/or deforestation is another matter for scientific review. We are not going to all drown east and west of the Rockies although I often fantasize that development.
If they world was really serious about Global warming and air pollution. They should think about all those cows and farm animal and humans pasing gas. That is an awful gigantic amount of methane gas produced by all.
If they world was really serious about Global warming and air pollution. They should think about all those cows and farm animal and humans pasing gas. That is an awful gigantic amounts of methane gas produced by all. Perhaps we should start with all politicians on both sides of the ocean?
Do you have a link to that article? I'd love to have it.
Visited the in-laws in Maine yesterday. Last night my father-in-law was sitting in his chair all bundled up and shivering. On the TV was the NBC Nightly News (his choice, I haven't seen network news in years) and their big feature on the horrors of human-caused climate change. He didn't comment but I'm sure he believes it lock stock and barrel.
The sun and planets revolve around the earth and we will burn you as a heretic if you do not believe. What else is new?
Thanks for the clue; men, whining like women, should never try sarcasm. In fairness I should have noticed his closing demand.
Ehrlich and his liberal friends must make lots of money going to these left wing meetings.
Making several absurd assumptions to make it work:
These same reporters would be screaming at certain ancient bacteria about the disastrous consequences of continuing to convert the earth's methane-based atmosphere to a nitrogen-oxygen based mix.
Lorrie Lorrie Lorrie,, You get a 2 second sound bite answer, not the Gettysburg Address!
If Al really believed that 10 year crap, would he still have any long term investments?
Note: "10 years X disaster will destroy us," is the Left's replacement version of Soviet 5-year plans.
The biggest reason we still live on earth is that there ain't a whole lot of choices.
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Cold as a liberal's heart....now that is cold!!
1) The carpet baggers who shortly after the Civil War migrated from New England to the post Civil War South and the West. They would sell medicine and various other semi-magic items to the gullable.They would talk farmers into signing over deeds to their family land for promises unfulfilled.
2) The Prohibition Movement which moved to ban any alcoholic beverage from being legally produced or retailed. Politicians were asked: Do you drink? And the answer in all political correctness was , "No." If a politician admitted to even social drinking, his candidacy was a lost cause. Candidates accused each other of being drinkers, and mobs of women marched cheering: Lips which touch alcohol will never touch mine ( a dubious proposition, then inflamed by secret yearnings misunderstood in our modern post sexual revolution era.)
Some day we will view these Global Warming Idiots just the same way we now view prohibitionists: extremists who desired to take away individual freedoms of the citizens of our country..... A bunch of emotional wing nuts, whose faux righteousness justifies many crimes against our democratic republic.
Its the sun stupid. And there isn't much we can do about it except to buy sunscreen and sip margaritas, while consulting with Dutch engineering companies on buildiing dikes .....er ...dykes?
The leading US Global Waarming Carpet Bagger? Why Al Gore, of course, who approaches his enthralled audience with the fervor of a Messiah.
Next thing you know, the Global Warming Idiots will suggest sacrificing virgins to the environmental volcano, to delay its eruption of full fledged environmental deterioration!
The problem is that these Liberal wing nutters have very view qualified candidates among their camps.
Who will be sacrificed today? Any politician who publically states that he or she does not believe in the new religion of Global Warming.
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