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Texas Girls Will Get HPV Vaccine
News Observer ^ | 02/03/07 | Liz Austin Peterson

Posted on 02/05/2007 7:13:36 AM PST by Froufrou

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To: durasell

"That's a storybook, man!"


101 posted on 02/05/2007 9:32:08 AM PST by HitmanLV ("I mean, that's a storybook, man!")
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To: perseid 67

Probably, and EVILLL Halliburton, too.

Dick Cheney even lets me use the weather and earthquake and levy-destroying machine sometimes.


102 posted on 02/05/2007 9:33:11 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: MeanWestTexan
If this wasn't a vaccine for a sexually-transmitted disease, it would be a non-issue, just like the MMR shots.

No kidding.

103 posted on 02/05/2007 9:33:27 AM PST by HitmanLV ("I mean, that's a storybook, man!")
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To: Froufrou

Hey Perry, you crook, that ain't happening here.


104 posted on 02/05/2007 9:34:06 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: HitmanLV

Look, there is going to be a certain percentage of folks who don't get the shot for their daughters because they see it as a symbol of "doubt" or betrayal of the values they hope to instill in their daughters and the kind of lives they want for them.

So, nothing you say is going to change their minds on this issue.


105 posted on 02/05/2007 9:35:12 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: elc

By the time a girl is 11, she's had most of her shots anyway.


106 posted on 02/05/2007 9:36:01 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: MeanWestTexan
>>With something like 50% of American men being carriers of HPV (read the link above), that is the idea, but not, alas, the cruel reality.



That is an endorsement for abstinence. That is not a cute guy that is a carrier of a dreadful disease.

I would choose not to have sex any day over being used as a guinea pig by a pharmaceutical company.
107 posted on 02/05/2007 9:36:12 AM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: durasell

"That's a storybook, man!"


108 posted on 02/05/2007 9:36:41 AM PST by HitmanLV ("I mean, that's a storybook, man!")
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To: almcbean
I have an 11 year old daughter. She probably knows nothing about this vaccine. What reason do you give her if she asks why she needs this vaccine?

You tell her it will help keep her from getting sick, just as you would with any other type of vaccine. If you want to talk to her about cancer, tell her that it will help prevent a certain type of cancer.

Has she ever had a shot? If so, what did you tell her then?

We don't need another "here's a condom, don't use it type message" - they don't work.

I don't think the comparison works. Condoms have one purpose only - this vaccine isn't in any way the same thing.

I oppose the governor's actions because it trumps parental rights and responsibilities in the name of the State, but some of the objections to the vaccine itself baffle me.

109 posted on 02/05/2007 9:36:57 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: durasell

You can spot them because they also go on-and-on about flouride in the water and someone taking their bodily fluids.


110 posted on 02/05/2007 9:37:24 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: perseid 67

So you are prepared to assume that the boy your daughter marries never messed around in college pre-marriage?

A great assumption.


111 posted on 02/05/2007 9:40:39 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: najida

I agree with you.


112 posted on 02/05/2007 9:41:14 AM PST by Rider on the Rain
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To: MeanWestTexan

I don't think they're crazy -- I just think they're afraid. It's tough to hold the line against what they see as the evils of society. There's very little they can control. This is something they can control. Unfortunately, a certain percentage (probably very small) will have killed their kids by the decision.


113 posted on 02/05/2007 9:41:20 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

That means 50% don't. With discernment and good guidance, you can reduce those odds even further. You've surrendered to the cultural lie that all our children are destined to a life of rampant sexual promiscuity, and that there is nothing we as parents can do about it. Let's just give them condoms and vaccines and let them go.

The problem is that there are so many more STD'S, other devastations such as pregnancy and abortion, and serious emotional scars.

I refuse to surrender to these cultural lies. They will actually increase our children's risk of harm, not decrease it.


114 posted on 02/05/2007 9:43:28 AM PST by almcbean
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To: najida; MeanWestTexan

But it is about sex. Males and females carry the HPV on equal terms and should be immunized in the same fashion. Leaving the boys out implies there is some duality in the way the sexes are treated. Very not p.c.


115 posted on 02/05/2007 9:45:42 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: MeanWestTexan

Yes, having a husband is more risky than being a convent nun.


This vaccine will do nothing to change the fact that many women will go to an early grave because of their husband.


116 posted on 02/05/2007 9:50:59 AM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: Froufrou

I sure hope the parents in TX stand up to their 'Republican' governor.


117 posted on 02/05/2007 9:52:25 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: highball

Be careful, you've fallen for the deception inherent in the marketing of this vaccine. This is not a cancer vaccine, it is a HPV vaccine, which can lead to cancer. the distinction is important.

The vaccine is designed to prevent a sexually transmitted disease contracted by promiscuous behavior.

My daughter is 11, not 2. She is not naive, nor would I lie to her


118 posted on 02/05/2007 9:53:38 AM PST by almcbean
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To: HitmanLV; MeanWestTexan

Not just any STD, but the one that causes cervical cancer. So, they're saying since boys have no cervix they don't need the immunization?! ~guffaw!~ It's the 'penile bombardment' that carries the virus to the cervix in the first place!

This is like saying, "girls cause cancer" when in fact it's the other way around.


119 posted on 02/05/2007 9:54:16 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: MeanWestTexan
If this wasn't a vaccine for a sexually-transmitted disease, it would be a non-issue, just like the MMR shots.

That may be true for some who are opposing it. But I do not believe the government should be able to require a vaccine for any disease that one cannot get 'innocently' i.e. by breathing the same air as a carrier or touching a surface that a carrier has touched.

120 posted on 02/05/2007 9:56:23 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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