Speaking of Global Warming (Gorebasim Alert)

Power Line ^ | Feburary 8, 2007 | John Hinderaker

[yoe]

The return of arctic conditions to much of the U.S. has many people sympathizing with this (cartoon by Sam Ryskind:)

Unlike most cartoonists, Rysind writes, too:

"You don’t hear much about the ozone hole any more. Has it gone away? Nope. NOAA and NASA say in 2006 it was bigger and deeper than ever.

But wait, you say, we implemented the Montreal Protocols in 1989, eliminating ozone depleting CFCs. Kofi Annan called the Protocol, “Perhaps the most successful international agreement to date.” CFC concentrations have been falling since 1995. How can the ozone hole be worse?

It’s not worse, says NOAA, it’s better. It’s just that you can’t see how great the Protocol is working because colder than average temperatures in the Antarctic mask the benefit. Cold weather “result[s] in larger and deeper ozone holes, while warmer weather leads to smaller ones.”

Colder in Antarctica? Al Gore told me it was melting! Al Gore told me there was consensus. Consensus!"

[Matchett-PI]

Re: "cooling", see # 78 above.

Also note these interesting results of a google search I just finished:

Results 1 - 10 of about 111,000 for IPCC 2007 carbon dioxide capture operations
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=IPCC+2007+carbon+dioxide+capture+operations&btnG=Google+Search

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SCOPING PAPER IPCC SPECIAL REPORT ON CARBON DIOXIDE CAPTURE AND STORAGE
1. Introduction: At the 19th IPCC plenary meeting in Geneva, April 2002, it was decided [snip]

3. Why a Special Report?
The mandate of the Workshop was to support a decision by the IPCC Plenary meeting on a Special Report on Carbon dioxide Capture and Storage by 2005 or inclusion of this subject in the Fourth Assessment Report (AR4) by 2007. The participants discussed this issue and concluded that a Special Report would be the appropriate choice for the following reasons: [snip] http://www.climatescience.gov/Library/ipcc/ScopingPaper-SRCCS.pdf

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GE Press Release:
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/ge/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20060718005541&newsLang=en&ndmConfigId=1001109&vnsId=681

BP and GE to Develop Hydrogen Power Plants and Technologies

LONDON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 18, 2006--BP and GE today announced their intention to jointly develop and deploy hydrogen power projects that dramatically reduce emissions of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide from electricity generation. Vivienne Cox, BP's Chief Executive of Gas, Power and Renewables, and David L. Calhoun, Vice Chairman of GE and president and CEO of GE Infrastructure, signed the agreement today in London.

The world will continue to make extensive use of fossil fuels, such as natural gas and coal, for power generation for the foreseeable future, but technology now allows this to be done more cleanly by creating hydrogen from fossil fuels while capturing and sequestering the carbon as carbon dioxide in deep geological formations. To facilitate this advancement, BP and GE will collaborate on power, carbon capture and sequestration technologies. [snip]

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An Ambitious Policy for Carbon Dioxide Capture and Storage in Norway
http://www.odin.dep.no/oed/norsk/aktuelt/taler/minister/026001-090030/dok-bn.html

.....A Large Potential for Carbon Dioxide Capture and Storage
Estimates show that the potential for CCS is large. The 2005 Special Report on Carbon Dioxide Capture and Storage from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) gives an estimated range of the economic potential for CCS in the next century between 200-2000 Giga tons of CO2. As a comparison, the EU's Emissions Trading Scheme covers about 2 Giga tons of CO2 per year. Nevertheless, the actual application of CCS will depend on a wide range of factors including ... [snip] Speech given by Mr. Odd Roger Enoksen, Minister of Petroleum and Energy. 8th International Conference on Greenhouse Gas Control Technologies, Trondheim, Norway 19. June 2006

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Carbon capture and storage (CCS)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_capture_and_storage


bttt

[<1/1,000,000th%]

That's a lot of work to avoid planting some trees.

Loved your link in post #78.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Fourier analysis.

[Matchett-PI]

That's a lot of work to avoid planting some trees. Loved your link in post #78.

Thanks. Talking about "trees" did you see my post here? :)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1781291/posts?page=48#48

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Even the trees pollute!

We're doomed!!!

Thanks. Good links. ;)

[Eva]

You have it all wrong, just like Al Gore, but I doubt that your error is intentional. You seem to be one of the poor souls who accept statements from academia without logically evaluating the facts. Do some reading on post modern thinking, and you will see that for the left, truth is all relative to what is expedient. Global warming is a political farce that is being perpetrated by the left to undermine capitalism and the power of the US white male, the most powerful group in the world. The left doesn't use straight line logic the way the rest of the world does, either. I always thought of the left using circular logic, but what they use is called polylogism.

[Old Professer]

Back around 1990, I talked on the phone with one of the principal researchers at JPL in Pasadena concerning the ozone hole and the restrictions on CFCs and he told me that it didn't matter because the process, once started and the agents being responsible having such a long atmospheric effect had already put the eventual destruction of all the protective ozone on a certain path.

There's no turning back, he said.

In layman's terms, the earth's inhabitants are doomed.

[Old Professer]

Solutions await political decisions, keep your parka on.

[Old Professer]

Might as well, can't stop the wheel until all the bets are laid.

[Paloma_55]

Bingo.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

You have just solidified your place as a liberal troll. No reason to discuss the contents of the debate (cf: post #21) when one finds psuedo-victory in making fun of another's name.

You probably found Hillary's joke about Gandhi running a gas station in St. Louis hi-frikkin-larious.

ERF, you are liberal attempting to appear moderate here.