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Rudy's Run (Editorial by Nat Review editors)
NRO ^ | 2/9/2007

Posted on 02/09/2007 5:55:32 AM PST by Uncledave

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1 posted on 02/09/2007 5:55:33 AM PST by Uncledave
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To: areafiftyone; PhiKapMom; Peach

ping


2 posted on 02/09/2007 5:56:06 AM PST by Uncledave
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

(((((PING))))


3 posted on 02/09/2007 5:59:30 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Uncledave
"For now, however, there is a certain symmetry of interest between conservatives and Giuliani. Conservatives should want Giuliani to agree with them on as many issues as possible."

Symmetry -- as in equal but opposite viewpoints.

4 posted on 02/09/2007 6:00:04 AM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: Uncledave

Thanks for the ping. LOL! It seems like everyone in the MSM has advice for Rudy.


5 posted on 02/09/2007 6:00:50 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Uncledave

I am still sitting on the fence . I don't like Rudy's ideas on issues which are important to me and why I vote.One issue is he wants people to take a test to have a handgun. The only ones taking the test are the legal handgun owners. The issue of abortion, maybe he can take that position , but not me. I still don't like the actions in his personal life and I was always taught , you have marriage between a man and a woman.Also the Hampton's are about as connected to me as John Edwards with his too Americas while I build this huge house. Nope I am still looking for a candidate.


6 posted on 02/09/2007 6:01:12 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: areafiftyone

I spent a little time this morning reading some of the usual "anti Rudy rants". Rudy - a tax-and-spead liberal is one I saw. Tax-and-spend?

How can anyone say that - when his record in New York as a massive tax cutter and budget cutter is there.

Our party has always led the fight with good debates based on history, facts, and THEN simple opinion.

Maybe it's simple because it's Friday - but I do wish people would engage in debate and not simple slander every time their fingers hit the keyboard.

FR has really enlightened me with regard to our parties minority population of social zealots.

That said - at least they are zealots on the right side of the issues.


7 posted on 02/09/2007 6:06:16 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose
I spent a little time this morning reading some of the usual "anti Rudy rants". Rudy - a tax-and-spead liberal is one I saw. Tax-and-spend?

Well you have to realize they figure if they say it over and over again you will start to believe it. It's the old brainwashing trick! LOL!

8 posted on 02/09/2007 6:08:02 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Uncledave

My concern is that if Giuliani is the Republican candidate some conservatives will pout and stay home from the polls. This is in large part why we currently have a Democrat controlled Congress. The prospect of President Hillary is so odious to this conservative that I would gladly vote for John McCain, Romney or any other Republican regardless if their individual beliefs exactly coincided with mine. God save our Republic if we get another Clinton in the White House.


9 posted on 02/09/2007 6:08:22 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: areafiftyone
Well National Review isn't exactly MSM. To be fair, I think they make a good point. They are trying to say to Rudy that he needs to convince us on these issues. If he expects to win he need to energize his base, and that won't be happening with his current position set.

They are trying to show him a way to change his mind and not sound like ... well... a liberal NYC politician.

10 posted on 02/09/2007 6:09:44 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: The Great RJ

I couldn't agree more. God help us all.


11 posted on 02/09/2007 6:10:03 AM PST by rep-always
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To: areafiftyone
There are more than enough genuine criticism's of Rudy... no need to invent any.

It was probably just someone being sloppy.

12 posted on 02/09/2007 6:10:29 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Uncledave
It's going to be tough to vote for this guy if he wins the nomination. However, it's a lead pipe cinch that the dim nominee will be pro choice, and probably in a much worse way than Gulliani.

One thing is for sure--I will vote, and I will vote for the Republican nominee.

Also, Gullani is a gun grabber, which I certainly don't like. Again, though, the dim candidate will no doubt be a much more committed anti Second Amendment person.

It seems to me that if we are going to be "one issue" voters in this election, our one issue better be the war on terror. If we're attacked again, and many of us are dead....well, I guess we won't care much about anyone's stance on anything.

13 posted on 02/09/2007 6:12:52 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment rights--buy another gun today.)
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To: tcostell

I agree. Rudy's not a dummy. And if he states his case fairly, and makes palatable promises to conservatives as this piece suggests, then I'm inclined to believe him.

I live in the NYC area I'm not aware of one major promise or policy statement that Rudy's made that he's lied about to his constituents.


14 posted on 02/09/2007 6:14:00 AM PST by Uncledave
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To: The Great RJ
The real problem here is not with the electorate... it's with the politicians. Republicans lost congress because they forgot who's interests they were supposed to serve. They started acting in their own self interest (by acting like big government Democrats) and ignored the interests of the people that put them there. THAT is the problem... not someone's mood.

I believe we can find a better choice than Giuliani, and this is the time to think that way.

I am not so afraid of Hillary that I'm willing to accept the first liberal who comes along in a "Republicans for President" hat.

15 posted on 02/09/2007 6:14:20 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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Giuliani also says he would look for “strict constructionists” in the mold of Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito to fill judicial vacancies.

That is why he endorsed Mario Cuomo over George Pataki???

16 posted on 02/09/2007 6:15:39 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Uncledave

That's true... he doesn't lie, and he doesn't pander (at least not to anyone he isn't married to). Now if he could just get his head straight about the role of government he'd be my guy.


17 posted on 02/09/2007 6:15:45 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Many good people have made mistakes in endorsing, or nominating, others. Look at some of the awful judges Reagan and Bush Sr gave us.


18 posted on 02/09/2007 6:18:23 AM PST by Uncledave
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You know, Sir Francis, that is one position that Rudy will be hard-pressed to explain away. But while Pataki was much better than Cuomo, he sure wasn't a solid principled Republican Governor himself. I don't remember what the "city-state" issues were at the time Rudy made that unseemly remark but I'm sure it will come back to dog him in this election cycle.

All that said, I still think Rudy is the best choice for the GOP just on the leadership front alone but also his consistent conservative fiscal record in NYC. JMHO.


19 posted on 02/09/2007 6:24:39 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds (“The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.”)
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To: Uncledave
Gee, that's odd?!?

I searched the article three times and nowhere is Rudy's EXTREME, LEFT-WING view on gun control and confiscation mentioned.

Oh well, I guess he hasn't had his 'Come to Jesus' moment on that yet. /s

(or ... is the 2A the 'thing not to be mentioned' in Rudy's presence)

20 posted on 02/09/2007 6:30:00 AM PST by Condor51 (Where's Attila The Hun when you need him? [Go sit down Rudy])
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