Mandating Gardasil: A Gross Infringement On Parental Rights

standardnewswire.com ^ | 02/09/07 | Unknown

[stentorian conservative]

Yep, It's headed here to NY.

. . . assemblywoman Amy Paulin (D-Scarsdale) will introduce legislation mandating girls be inoculated. . .

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/495996p-417953c.html

[keepitreal]

They will not be happy until every pocket is lined.

[luckystarmom]

The time between getting HPV and developing cervical cancer is up to 20 years.

[metmom]

I'll be sure to contact my assemblyman.

[luckystarmom]

You should go on some of the threads about vaccines and autism.

Or how about freepers that think too many kids are on ritalin.

Many freepers are concerned about the safety of drugs and vaccines on our children, and it has nothing to do with sex.

[Nevernow]

This is worse. It's lives at stake now.

And I just realized they're doing this on girls 9 to 11.

911. Funny coincidence. And I do know it's a coincidence, it's just a very interesting one.

[metmom]

Ping to post 121.

[keepitreal]

And I just realized they're doing this on girls 9 to 11.

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9 year olds are 3rd graders

[luckystarmom]

You would be wrong. It is most effective before girls are sexually active.

However, one of the side effects is painful periods so they want young girls to get the vaccine early so they don't get the painful periods.

[LtdGovt]

It's against the wishes of the girls themselves.

It was against my wishes to get vaccinated, too. But now that I'm older and (I hope) somewhat wiser, I think that it was good for me.

Perry did basically say they would all have sex.

And they will. I haven't heard of a renewed popularity of a lifelong celibacy pledge. That doesn't make them w-'s.

Parents doing this for pure religious reasons don't want their daughters to have it as punishment for sex, but because they're sure they've raised daughters who won't have sex and will be put at risks from side effects for something that they don't need to be protected from in the first place.

Then they would be ultimately concerned about safety - which they are not, unfortunately.

[LtdGovt]

Your lack of medical knowledge, Newbie status, and utter lack of understanding of informed consent, etc. suggest you work for Merck or Perry in Texas or have other connection to this. Which is it?

I'm an evil Merck-employee who is conspiring with Perry to hurt the children of Texas. Be very afraid! /s

[LtdGovt]

Even if it saves one life.......

It's a nice ideal, but... keep it real. It doesn't work that way. We cannot spend millions of dollars to save one, the country would go bankrupt.

[Nevernow]

You're right. I might be thinking of Scotland, sorry.

It is approved for 9 year olds though, and people are pushing for it to be done that early because they probably haven't had sex yet, which makes it the safest. 11 is the next big number being pushed, that's probably where I'm getting 9-11 from (that's what I get for posting at 2 am).

[LtdGovt]

Not for religious freedom either, I see.

Yes I am for religious freedom. People should be free to do whatever they want with themselves. But that doesn't mean that they have the right to hurt their children.

[Nevernow]

First of all, I respect your opinion that girls should be vaccinated against their will because Big Brother knows better, but I disagree. There are plenty of people alive today who wish they never had been vaccinated.

Do you read minds, and that is how you know parents aren't concerned about the health of their children? Because I've met some very religious people, and none of them have wavered in doing what they felt was best for the health of their children.

[Nevernow]

So why not refrain from spending all that unnecessary money on the vaccine for girls when all that needs to be done is a regular pap smear, not a 600 dollar vaccine?

[LtdGovt]

. 1 percent of 55 is .55 That means 1 in 200 women, not 1 in 60 women,

Uhm, 1 percent of 60 percent IS .60%, not 1 in 60 women.

If every woman has regular pap smears, do you know how many women will get cervical cancer from HPV? According to everything Merck has said, NONE.

Well, that would be even better.

So I ask, why is a vaccine needed to do something that a simple regular checkup can do? It costs less than a vaccine, too, and should be done anyway for other health concerns.

Certainly, I'm very pragmatic. And I'm not a doctor.

Penile cancer survival rate is 50%. So doesn't it make sense to protect boys, or are they allowed to risk their own health when girls aren't?

Survival rates don't matter, it matters how many people get penile cancer. I suspect that the rate is very low.

[metmom]

But that doesn't mean that they have the right to hurt their children.

And considering the vaccine's track record, that's just what could happen if they are forced to get it. So it's OK for the government to hurt other people's children?

[Nevernow]

If it is hurting your children to disagree that the government knows best about what undertested substance to stick into their bodies, then I shall be a proud child abuser.

[Diogenesis]

Gardasil tripled the rate of gastroenteritis (0.03% GARDASIL vs. 0.01% Placebo),
doubled the rate of appendicitis(0.02% GARDASIL vs. 0.01% Placebo),and doubled the rate of pelvic inflammatory disease (0.02% GARDASIL vs. 0.01% Placebo).

Of course these were short studies, so autoimmune diseases
and cancer caused by the vaccine could not assessed.

"Don't let the side effects get in the way of our profits."