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Hillary: I Didn't Vote for War
Manchester Union Leader ^ | February 10, 2007 | John DiStaso

Posted on 02/10/2007 12:54:12 AM PST by Jim Noble

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This is a novel twist. She is a really, really bad candidate.
1 posted on 02/10/2007 12:54:14 AM PST by Jim Noble
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Note to Hillary: In the future, read the legislation you're voting for so you won't look like such a moron when you try and claim you were "tricked"./


2 posted on 02/10/2007 12:56:24 AM PST by jess35
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Clinton said, "If we had known then what we know now ...

That has to be the most imbecilic logic to begin any position statement with.

3 posted on 02/10/2007 12:57:43 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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Bullsh*t...


4 posted on 02/10/2007 1:01:13 AM PST by Zeon Cowboy ("Show me just what Muhammad brought... and there you will find things only evil and inhuman.")
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spin baby, spin.....
5 posted on 02/10/2007 1:01:55 AM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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Well give her a

These colors cut and run

bumper-sticker for her car.

6 posted on 02/10/2007 1:04:49 AM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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She would not have any issue at all had the GOP majority done an actual Declaration of War instead of a U.N. spewage laden congressional resolution. That's what the GOP gets for trying to be the appeasers of world opinion. They should have either fully declared it and made the unconditional commitment or war or stayed home. Three previous wars & the same stupid intentional mistake and our troops get caught in the middle.


7 posted on 02/10/2007 1:05:29 AM PST by cva66snipe (Rudy, the Liberal Media's first choice for the GOP nomination. Not on my vote not even in Nov 2008..)
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No, this isn't spin - this is falling, falling, faaallllliiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

I'm not sure she still will be in the race when the real campaign starts.


8 posted on 02/10/2007 1:06:07 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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This kind of statement undermines national security and supports the enemy.

Shes lucky what happened to that evil SOB Saddam isn't in store for her as well.

If the POTUS was Putin instead of Bush she and her comrades wouldn't be around for very long.

9 posted on 02/10/2007 1:06:26 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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...and refusing to allow the inspectors under the edict of the United Nations to do their work."

That's just an out and out lie.

10 posted on 02/10/2007 1:07:08 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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Amazing how Clinton's find it so damn easy to tell lies.. pathological and really scary.


11 posted on 02/10/2007 1:09:21 AM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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1. On September 12, 2001, Senatrix Clinton spoke from the well of the Senate: "...We will also stand united behind our President as he and his advisors plan the necessary actions to demonstrate America's resolve and commitment. Not only to seek out an exact punishment on the perpetrators, but to make very clear that not only those who harbor terrorists, but those who in any way aid or comfort them whatsoever will now face the wrath of our country. And I hope that that message has gotten through to everywhere it needs to be heard. You are either with America in our time of need or you are not..."

2. On October 10, 2002, Clinton spoke to the Senate in favor of a use-of-force resolution authorizing the invasion of Iraq, saying: "The facts that have brought us to this fateful vote are not in doubt.”

3. On December 15, 2003, when it was clear there were no large stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Clinton’s support was unwavering. "I was one who supported giving President Bush the authority, if necessary, to use force,” she told the Council on Foreign Relations. "We have no option but to stay involved and committed.”

4. On April 20, 2004, Clinton told CNN’s Larry King that she did not "regret giving the president the authority,” noting that Saddam Hussein "had been a real problem for the international community for more than a decade.”

5. In October 2005, amid growing anti-war sentiment, Clinton still told the Village Voice: "I don’t believe it’s smart to set a date for withdrawal . . . I don’t think it’s the right time to withdraw.”

6. By November 2005, Hillary was softening her stance, saying in a letter to constituents: "If Congress had been asked [to authorize the war], based on what we know now, we never would have agreed.”

7. On December 18, 2006, Clinton went even further, saying on the "Today” show: "I certainly wouldn’t have voted that way.”

8. On January 13 of this year, Clinton spoke from Baghdad about President Bush’s call for a troop surge: "I don’t know that the American people or the Congress at this point believe this mission can work.”

9. On January 17, Clinton called for a cap on the number of U.S. troops in Iraq, and suggested withholding funds for the Iraqi government.

10. Finally, on January 27, Clinton hit the campaign trail in Iowa and demanded that the president "extricate our country from this before he leaves office.”



12 posted on 02/10/2007 1:10:45 AM PST by Notwithstanding (Post-9/11 Volunteer Active Duty OEF Vet Lawyer (who is too dumb to understand Kerry's apology))
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She is going to get taken apart by the other Dems in the primaries. It'll have the same effect as Kerry's “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.".

It's '04 all over again.

13 posted on 02/10/2007 1:12:12 AM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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Gosh. She's spinning as hard as Giuliani and Romney.


14 posted on 02/10/2007 1:12:59 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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Now that she is acting and sounding like a Democrat from the past, I wonder when she will start to look like John Kerry. I also wonder when the Obama-worshippers in the media start to hammer on this change of rhetoric from Senator Clinton.


15 posted on 02/10/2007 1:13:48 AM PST by Bernard (Immigration should be rare, safe and legal.)
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They went with Kerry, they will go with her. She will outspend anyone and sick her clintonistas on anyone that gets in her way, including the other candidates.


16 posted on 02/10/2007 1:15:02 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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Yes, if we'd just waited a tad longer, Saddam would have converted to Secular Humanism, renounced war and entered a monastery.

If only we knew now what Her Heinous knew then...


17 posted on 02/10/2007 1:16:01 AM PST by D-fendr
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These are the words of someone who is not even capable of following much less leading. Which she proved in spades with Hillary Care while her own husband was in the Oval Office. She couldn't push it forward and she wouldn't let anyone help her drag it along.


18 posted on 02/10/2007 1:21:38 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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It depends on what the meaning of "war" is; along with the meaning of every other word I've ever used in my life.


19 posted on 02/10/2007 1:26:52 AM PST by Nachoman (90 % of everything is crap.)
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To: TigersEye
"That has to be the most imbecilic logic to begin any position statement with."

As pointed out before, Hillary has achieved what she has achieved NOT because she is exceptionally gifted, but because she is driven by a narcissistic ambition fueled by an ego of astronomical proportions. She's the kind of candidate that will push herself to campaign incessantly, shake every hand etc., but will not think well on her feet. She will propose all kinds of new initiatives that have been put together behind the scenes by the combined efforts of consultants and hired guns, but when it comes time for her to defend these initiatives they will come across as rigid policies because she doesn't have the ability to 'tweak' them on the fly, and creatively interpret.

The real question is whether those who would vote for her really care what she says. I don't think they do, unless she became markedly conservative. I believe Hillary supporters are driven by anti-conservative, anti-Republican vengeance and that Hillary is just the figure head. They don't support her because they believe she will best defend, strengthen and bring our country forward. They support her because they think she hates conservatives and Republicans as much as they do.

What they may not realize, however, is that whereas Hillary is definitely an ideologue, her greatest goal is to make sure the world knows, at the end of the day, how special and smart and exceptional she is. Her need to prove this to the world supersedes the importance of her ideology. Ultimately, if it assured her place in history, Hillary would likely sell out her base.
20 posted on 02/10/2007 1:28:18 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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