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To: parashift
Footnote A. Other gasses produced by outgassing include carbon monoxide (CO), carbon dioxide (CO2), hydrochloric acid (HCl), methane (CH4), ammonia (NH3), nitrogen (N2) and various sulfur gasses sulfur gases. BTW, the CO and the CO2 were largely used up by the weathering of minerals. That likely why there is so much calcium carbonate (limestone, seashells, chalk marble etc.) and silica (sand, quartz and part of limestone). There is some debate about the water content- there is a competing model called the accretion theory but it is contradicted by the banded iron formations and sulfide minerals.

Footnote B. I'm only a physicist - you could probably get a better answer from someone with a biology related background. But basically there was no free oxygen - rocks older than about 2 billion years contain banded iron layers that would not have formed if there was very much oxygen available. Outgasses from volcanoes contain basically no free oxygen so the oxygen of the atmosphere is almost completely the product of the photosynthetic activity of green plants.

Footnote C. Some of the things that led me to be open minded were the way that the math for the flow of water and the math for electricity are so similar - the way that the number pi appears everywhere from the tiniest particles to circles to distant stars and the way that everywhere we look patterns are found among seeming chaos. I concluded that my vision of God was too small - that he is not limited by what he told Abraham and the other prophets. It makes me wonder what else there is that we are not yet ready to understand. It make me want to try harder to examine creation and better under. I suspect my vision of God is still too small - I just don't know in what way it is too small, much as Abraham couldn't forsee what we would later learn about chemistry and physics..
86 posted on 02/13/2007 6:15:17 AM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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Thanks for the response gondram. I know of the theory that you speak, and before I ever conceived of writing Episteme Scentia --I thoroughly embarrassed (unintentionally) my professor in intro to biology a couple years ago --who also happens to teach evolution. All I did was ask questions. He still does not look at me when he passes through the halls. I gave him a book shortly after that, "Why 50 scientist believe in God" or something like that --he still has it I guess. Anywho..

So let's think about that theory very simply. #1) where did the H2O come from? They say that is out gassed from molten rocks. That enough pressure will squeeze water from a rock. Well, imagine another professors surprise when I said well, that makes the bible scientific then. Because God told Moses to SPEAK to the rock to get water out of it --but Moses disobeyed and struck it with Aaron's rod. No matter, water poured forth --and my professor walked away very angry. So, yeah, there is water contained in rock. But does that mean that lava likewise contains water? Well, let's say that since molten rock (lava) is trapped deep within the earth, the steam pressure has nowhere to go until it is released during an explosion of the surface.

sidetrack: water (vapor) is diamagnetic -- slightly repelled. And it would be in it's gaseous state upon expulsion from the earth. Yet, without an ozone layer having been evolved yet around the earth --there would have been nothing to hold the vapor in. Not just H2O gas, but any gas for that matter. Ozone is created by the belching out of volcanoes. But what would have stopped O3 from just flowing out into space? You need a balloon to hold the gases in. A FIRMAMENT. And beyond that what caused the first volcano to explode? Check this link:

http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/planet_volcano/mars/Shields/Overview.html

So, if being active for billions of years didn't do it for mars --no gas collection, no vapor collection --hence no condensation; why should we think it was going to work for earth? I could go through every planet this way --even the ones with magnetospheres. Yet, we do not see any vegetation popping up on the dry planets. On the water planets --we do not see volcanoes erupting creating land mass and creating atmospheres. How many billions of years do they have to be able to accomplish this?

Anywho--so where did the first plant come from? After billions of years under volcanic ash did it just spontaneously combust by pressure and temperature forcing its chemical components to bond to create a seed? But wait, there's no water --because there's no O2 to bind with H2 because there are no plants to convert CO2, H2O, and light to O2 and glucose --because there is no H2O in the soil --because there is no O3 to create a canopy to hold in the toxic gases created by volcanic eruptions yet--because the theory says that the volcanoes created the gas spheres around the earth in their perfect concentrations. But without an already existent atmosphere --a balloon, if you will; because we know that gases spread out to fill the container (space) evenly --- NO GASES WOULD HAVE EVER BEEN TRAPPED AROUND THE EARTH ESPECIALLY H2O BECAUSE OF ITS DIAMAGNETIC PROPERTIES (repelled in the presence of a magnet --the earth being a pretty big one). No trapped gases = no water. No water = no plants. No plants = no O2 and glucose. No O2 and glucose = no life as we see today.

So, If none of this occurred, then obviously evolution could not have ever begun. If any of this fantastical imaginary reality did come true--it would have already happened elsewhere-- not only in our solar system but on any of the other spiral galaxies that contain sun's like ours and rocky planets just like our solar system has. But, alas, it never has in all those billions upon billions of years --woe is evolution. (By the way there are 2 billion stars like our sun in the universe -- all of them older than ours --so there has been plenty of opportunity)

SO what is the alternative? The correct order for processes to occur would have to be: 1) There would have to be a container that the gases would fill evenly in order to be trapped. 2)There would already have to be huge land masses and there would have to be already existent water to begin the hydrological cycle of evaporation and precipitation --- in order to get any spontaneously combusted seed in the middle of a land mass H20.

sidetrack: there is enough water on the planet to completely cover all land mass to a depth of 2 miles. Can you imagine the time it would take for underwater volcanic eruptions to reach the surface, and create continents? Then the amount of time it would take to spontaneously evolve a single seed that would make it to the surface of that land mass? But, without the hydrological cycle already in existence it would die. Which is why water must come first, then land --but evolution cannot account for the amount of time necessary by volcanic explanations.

3) There would already have to be seeds existent in the soil. Obviously seeds don't spontaneously combust. And, since they don't you need a mature plant in order to reproduce a seed.

Well, the only alternative explanation that describes these events in this order is genesis. And this is described in detail in my proof. It is inevitable: For anything to be living in the universe---water came first --there is no other way, there is no explaining your way out of it. You simply must have an electrolytic solution first. It is the only way.

Now. Where did H20 come from? What is its constituent parts? H and O. What are the constituent parts of H and O? Spectrum analysis will tell you: Light. What is the constituent elements of Light? Electricity and Magnetism. What are their constituent parts? Energy. How did they come together? By compression. What was the force? An initial longitudinal wave, The spoken Word.

Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. It is eternal. The first water? Plasma --an ionized gas field --energy --a life force. The only life force that is all powerful and eternal? God the Father. And God said? Light. See John chapter 1.

Science proves creation. Creation is proof of God's existence. The foundation of everything that exists is sound and light.




89 posted on 02/14/2007 4:48:43 PM PST by parashift
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