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Mona Charen: Is Guiliani a Conservative? He Just Might Be
Southern Illinoisian ^ | 2/11/07 | Mona Charen

Posted on 02/13/2007 1:59:22 PM PST by meg88

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To: Afronaut
"There is no question that Giuliani's position on abortion and gun control will offend many Republicans. But let's be clear, he is no liberal."

LOL! It has webfeet, bill, feathers and quaks, but its not a duck!!! ROFL!!

21 posted on 02/13/2007 2:23:18 PM PST by PatriotWarriorINL
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To: meg88

Rudy is a conservative compared to the far left Democrat/Socialists. But only compared to the far left. By conservative standards Rudy is no conservative at all.

This puts conservativs' in a position to settle for a lefty but not a far-left lefty.

Remember Rudy was acceptable enough to liberal New York to get elected mayor years ago.

Why not pick a real conservative?


22 posted on 02/13/2007 2:24:03 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal (q)
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To: quark
""Ronald Reagan is the yardstick -- if you don't measure up, then you're not a conservative."

YES. Everyone should understnad this.

23 posted on 02/13/2007 2:24:18 PM PST by PatriotWarriorINL
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To: ExpatGator
I hope she and the others understand that if he is nominated Hillary will be our next president.

They'll just go into a state of denial and blame the true conservatives for not appeasing them and abiding by their errant wishes.

24 posted on 02/13/2007 2:24:21 PM PST by jla
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To: ExpatGator
Gun hating is a false allegation.

I just heard him say that he was in agreement with concealed carry, in accordance with local licensing laws.

25 posted on 02/13/2007 2:24:21 PM PST by Rudder
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To: meg88

Is Rudy a conservative? Not socially.


26 posted on 02/13/2007 2:25:25 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: BibChr

Rudy is still better than any RAT candidate by far. If you disagree, then name who?


27 posted on 02/13/2007 2:26:40 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: ExpatGator
I hope she and the others understand that if he is nominated Hillary will be our next president.

I hope you understand that this position is an insult to the intelligence of anybody who reads it.

28 posted on 02/13/2007 2:27:17 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: AmericaUnited
Rudy is not perfect, but he beats by 10 miles, ANYONE on the RAT side.

Yep, but there are those running in the primary that beat Rudy by 10 miles. I don't think conservatives should throw up their hands and just support Rudy because they think he's the only one who can beat Hillary. He isn't. (Well, he isn't as long as conservatives don't just throw up their hands.)

29 posted on 02/13/2007 2:27:19 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: AmericaUnited

It's getting quite funny how much panic there is over Rudy among the Pout Crowd.


30 posted on 02/13/2007 2:27:27 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Boycott all Leftist Media, ignore them and they will go away...)
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To: R.W.Ratikal
"Remember Rudy was acceptable enough to liberal New York to get elected mayor years ago. "

LOL EXACTLY. No conservative would ever get elected in NYC!!!! ITs ninety % hard core lib with about 5 RINO (Bloomberg).

This should tell YOU something about RUDY.

31 posted on 02/13/2007 2:28:30 PM PST by PatriotWarriorINL
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To: R.W.Ratikal
Why not pick a real conservative?

He can't win.

32 posted on 02/13/2007 2:29:40 PM PST by Rudder
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To: AmericaUnited

So WHAT? Im sooo tired of settling - look what it got us to Nov 06.


33 posted on 02/13/2007 2:30:09 PM PST by PatriotWarriorINL
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To: AmericaUnited

Did you look at the link I gave before asking?


34 posted on 02/13/2007 2:30:26 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Afronaut
But let's be clear, he is no liberal.

I guess it is more a matter of perspective. I lump him in with McCain, Hilary, Kerry, and the rest of that crowd. Then again, conservative in Texas probably does not mean the same as conservative in New York.
35 posted on 02/13/2007 2:30:48 PM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: MittFan08
I have never voted for a pro-abortion candidate in my life. I can assure you that this will not change in 2008.

Now replicate this same sentiment among a number of different people who would never vote for a candidate who supports gun control, would never vote for a candidate who has adamantly defied Federal immigration law, etc. . . . and you can understand why Mr. Giuliani has a very difficult road ahead of him.

36 posted on 02/13/2007 2:31:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: quark
If Mona has to ask the question, then he isn't! Ronald Reagan is the yardstick -- if you don't measure up, then you're not a conservative.

What a bunch of garbage! Some of us (LIKE ME) remember during Reagan's two terms in office how the perpetual 'true conservatives' whined incessantly. "Reagan didn't abolish one agency!" "Reagan was ballooning the budget!" "Reagan's cabinet was filled with one-worlders and establishment hacks!" "Reagan didn't overturn abortion via executive order!" And on and on...

37 posted on 02/13/2007 2:32:37 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: meg88
Those turnstile jumpers turned out to possess a huge number of illegal guns, which were confiscated, and criminals throughout the city discovered that the New York police were breathing down their necks.OOOOH that evil gun grabber...< /s>
38 posted on 02/13/2007 2:32:44 PM PST by zarf ("I am what you call a "controversial figure". People either hate me or they despise me.")
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To: ExpatGator
Rudy is kryptonite to most of us who have sworn to uphold and defend the constitution.

Your salacious comments are also false. I jut heard Rudy state he is a strict constitutional constructionist.

If you lie to make your points, they don't persuade.

39 posted on 02/13/2007 2:33:10 PM PST by Rudder
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To: BibChr

Yes. So once again, which RAT candidate do you think is better than Rudy?


40 posted on 02/13/2007 2:33:48 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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