...and Murtha's upcoming "suggestion".....
Posted on 02/14/2007 9:22:08 PM PST by PhiKapMom
HotAir has a must see video of Rudy Giuliani talking about the senselessness of non-binding resolutions and what's wrong with Washington from the Mayor's appearance on Lary King Live. In case you haven't seen him make this case in the last few days, this is must see viewing:
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/14/video-rudy-on-non-binding-resolutions/?s=video
Transcript:
GIULIANI: I mean, you can look at the practical and common sense conclusion on that anyway you want. But there's something more important than that. We have a right of free speech in this country and we elect people to make decisions. Here's what I would prefer to see them do, though, if you ask me what's my view on that. The nonbinding resolution thing gets me more than are you for it or against it. I have tremendous respect for the people who feel that we either made a mistake going to war, who voted against the war, who now have come to the conclusion, changed their minds, they have every right to that, that it's wrong, you should, in a dynamic situation, keep questioning. What I don't like is the idea of a nonbinding resolution.
KING: Because?
GIULIANI: Because there's no decision.
KING: But it's a statement.
GIULIANI: Yes, but that's what you do. That's what Tim Russert does and that's what Rush Limbaugh does. That's what you guys do, you make comments. We pay them to make decisions, not just to make comments. We pay them to decide. The United States Congress does declarations, the war…
KING: So if you feel that way, withhold funds and that's the way you feel?
GIULIANI: The ones I think have a better understanding of what their responsibility is and are willing to take a risk are the ones who are saying we've got to hold back the funds, we've got to vote against the war or we're for the war. And maybe it's because I ran a government and I tend to be a decisive person. I like decisions. And I think one of the things wrong with Washington is they don't want to make tough decisions anymore. Nonbinding resolution about Iraq, no decision on immigration, no decision on Social Security reform, no decision on what to do about energy independence, no decision. You know why that happens? Because it's unpopular.
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My usual comment on Rudy: so many pros .. but so many cons (border security, guns, abortion). But gosh, he'd pound Hillary into dust. Not sure he's the best Repub, but far preferable to Hillary if it comes to that.
I'm not a fan of Rudy for President.
But he's 100% correct here.
Thanks for the ping. I watched the interview and he was terrific. As usual.
Awesome clip. Punch it John.
They do not want to upset their deep pocket donors and lobbyists.
If Rudy gets to DC he is going to have a grand time telling the work shirkers on Capitol Hill just what a bunch of wussies they are! They could not make a tough decision if they had to. Non binding resolutions are made to cover their backsides.
You fish, you cut bait, or you get out of the boat. Most of these Congress critters are intent on sinking the boat and taking the rest of us with them.
Rudy is a good guy in many ways, a good leader. He might win in 2008; but if he wins, it ultimately means the end of the Republican party.
...and Murtha's upcoming "suggestion".....
I don't have a clue why people keep saying Rudy will bring an end to the Republican Party. Rudy is a REPUBLICAN and IMO it takes nerve for any Freeper to say that. You must be a social conservative because no other type of Repubican would make such a statement. Repubicans are not just social conservatives, they are fiscal conservatives, moderates, and some liberals.
I take it you have never been involved in the trenches in the Republican Party because any of us that have will tell you the Republican Party is here to stay and here to fight to Take Back the House and Senate and Keep the White House.
The Republican Party is going to be even more alive and vibrant with Rudy as President. We are going to grow the Party and if we grow the Party, we will be able to make our voices heard in Congress that if they don't shape up and do the business they are sent to do, then we will have someone waiting in the wings to take their place.
That's a good one!
Excellent.
Thanks!
I agree! I cannot feature anyone but a DemocRAT finding fault with this.
I thought it was awesome as well. He is not afraid to say what he thinks which is refreshing!
Thanks...but the credit goes to Pookie18's FR "Today's Toons" thread posted every Mon-Fri.
It's a drama queen thing. Their predictions and accusations become more hysterical by the minute, as Giuliani's political strength grows.
In the morning, I want Rudy, by noon he has said something that makes my blood boil, but then by evening, I`m starting to like the guy. Crazy huh? Maybe I`ll just wait for Newt.
I read that and I went HUH? Hysterics already! :)
Thanks for the info! I thought it was cool graphic!
Rudy is a buck stops here kind of guy. Just let it all hang out.
I guess Goeas is earning that big retainer, eh?
many pros and a few cons
if he could convince us he would appoint the same judges W did and make newt vp i think he could win.
abm- anybody but mccain
I have come to the conclusion that "social conservatives" are not conservative at all. They don't opine for less intrusive government. Not at all. They want the same level of government intervention as the libs, just with different results.
Well, he's a pro abortion, pro gay rights, pro illegal immigration gun grabber for starters. But that's enough to drive a deep wedge deep into the heart and soul of the party. The gutting comes later.
Who is he, other than a guy with a Lithuanian surname?
Well, hell's bell's man, kick us all out, then. After all, gotta have plenty of beans to count!
I agree with Rudy 100% on this. But this doesn't distinguish him from the field in any way. McCain, Romney, and Newt have said the exact same things. Of course there are the losers that have no chance like Brownback and Hagel who are actually going to vote for this so I guess it's good see Rudy on the record here. I am not supporting Rudy in the primaries but I think he would be an excellent president on the issues of foreign policy, homeland security, and the War on Terror.
Don't judge all social conservatives by the vicious FR anti-Rudy crowd.
Head of the Tarrance group, Giuliani's latest hire, and PKM's newest feeder source.
Focus group hocus pocus, and all that.
I would love not to M, but responses like #27 make it really difficult.
Mirror, mirror on the wall, whom pray tell is the heart and soul of the party's toil? You seem sir, to think you have a patent on one of the two major parties. You do not. Nobody does.
He is a pollster, then. And that is sinister how?
BRAVO!!!!!!
What the hell do you expect when you gratuitously insult conservatives, accolades?
I'm just saying. This is the newest lying spin from his newest sellout hack.
I disagree. It's NOT hysteria. Rudy will split the party in two. AND he cannot defeat Hillary.
His ilk are just the latest incarnation of the Pitchforkers. A vicious, perpetually enraged bunch. They are very noisy but extremely small in number (and no doubt small in other areas). NOT representative, by any means.
BTTT
What was the spin again, in the context of this thread?
I respect your opinion and will keep this under advisement. Thank you.
I've never been a Buchananite. Nice try at marginalization though.
May I suggest you start by reading the Republican Party platforms on issues such as the meaning of the 2nd Amendment, abortion, taxation, and homosexual marriage?
No organization, political, social, whatever, can survive the sort of contradictions that a Rudy presidency would bring. It would be like having Martin Luther become Pope; like Yasser Arafat be Prime Minister of Israel; like Rush Limbaugh becoming President of Harvard University.
And how exactly do you arrive at such a conclusion? Where's your evidence?
Every primary battle is bruising. But I don't fear the fight, and neither should anyone who believes in his or her candidate. May the best one win.
I'm simply pointing out that the information is the latest spin coming directly out of the Giuliani campaign. Poll-tested, focus-grouped to death, and then peddled here as some sort of reason to support a liberal.
Huh? Pro God, pro life, pro family, pro individual rights, pro constitution, pro small government, pro low taxes, pro defense conservative here. I favor ripping out the unconstitutional big government programs by the roots. Strip the government down to what the founders intended and it'd be about a tenth of the size it is now. And while we're at it, repeal the 16th and 17th amendments, abolish the income tax, social security and medicare, and return the power to the states and the people as intended.
If you're talking about Roe vs Wade, etc, that's liberal activism at its worse and should be overturned. The people are perfectly able to handle issues like abortion, marriage, etc, at the state level. Always have in the past and should be able to continue in the future, free of big government intrusion.
All the same, Santorum didn't get re-elected did he? Why - because he lost the social conservatives by supporting Arlen "Scottish Law" Specter. I don't agree with your characterization of s.c. by the way.
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