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Giuliani Says He Is Running for President in ’08 [And criticized our President on Iraq.]
New York Times ^ | 15FEB07 | RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA

Posted on 02/14/2007 10:13:40 PM PST by familyop

. . . and, without mentioning President Bush by name, offered pointed criticism on how the Iraq war has been handled . . . He said that the United States went to war with far too few forces and was wrong to dismantle Saddam Hussein’s military and government, and he conceded that if more information had been available about Iraq’s weapons, Congress never would have approved the war.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiitalian; benito; charlatan; fake; fraud; generalissimo; giuliani; iraq; nomilitaryexperience; partysplitter; phony; rudywhopseudocon; snakeoilsalesman; trueconservatives; usingnytimes2attack; zerocorevalues; zerocredibility
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To: EternalVigilance

You're right about that year.

I apologize.


41 posted on 02/14/2007 10:55:04 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: familyop
Well, well...about the ONLY thing that Rudy had going for him - the only thing that the fake conservatives who support(ed) him cared about at all - just got taken away as he revealed that he reveals that he thinks that the Iraq war was probably a mistake based upon the "no WMDs!" charges from the left.

I can see the Rudybots badmouthing Bush and the war in Iraq right now as they keep shilling for their liberal candidate.

42 posted on 02/14/2007 10:55:23 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Maynerd

"Let's be realistic Duncan is a donut not a president. Mitt will need a miracle. McCain is deranged and do we really want the democrats to win? Keep an open mind fellow freepers."

Now, that's funny!!


43 posted on 02/14/2007 10:55:55 PM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter for Pres/ Ann Coulter Sec, of State))
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To: Howlin
That's a new low, even for you. He was sick and you know it.

He wasn't sick in '06. Put the bottle away and go to bed.

44 posted on 02/14/2007 10:58:08 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff

You look like an idiot when you post stuff like that.

He and I have already settled that; butt out.

Careful: somebody may be posting something on FR favorable to Rudy that you don't see and can't refute.


45 posted on 02/14/2007 11:01:18 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: conservatrice

Hear, hear!! She should be beaten soundly by a conservative candidate.


46 posted on 02/14/2007 11:01:36 PM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter for Pres/ Ann Coulter Sec, of State))
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To: Peach

I heard the interview and it was nothing like this. NYT lied people bought it. And I am a Hunter-bot.


47 posted on 02/14/2007 11:03:19 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: Howlin

Wow. Accepted.


48 posted on 02/14/2007 11:04:38 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: Spiff

"I would take out Saddam Hussein in a second again."

-Rudy on LKL

It's a real shame to see conservatives being used like this by the NYT and liberal establishment. They're doing everything they can to push your buttons because they're terrified that Rudy can beat their rock star (Obama).


49 posted on 02/14/2007 11:05:44 PM PST by RepublicanPOTUSin08
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To: BonnieJ
He didn't run in '06 because his goal had become the Presidency, that seems fairly obvious. Why become a Senator only to immediately start campaigning again?

Why run when you're afraid you might lose to her?

50 posted on 02/14/2007 11:05:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: Doofer

That's what a lot of us have been saying. If the republican party becomes a pro abortion party, they will lose me! I don't want to, but thems the facts!


51 posted on 02/14/2007 11:06:06 PM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter for Pres/ Ann Coulter Sec, of State))
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To: EternalVigilance

Again I'll ask you...WHY would he run for Senator then immediately start campaigning for the Presidency?


52 posted on 02/14/2007 11:06:29 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: EternalVigilance

I don't think he was afraid of her. You sure are stuck in a one-track sort of thinking aren't you. You can't see logic.


53 posted on 02/14/2007 11:07:41 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: upsdriver

Congressman Duncan Hunter represents California's 52nd Congressional District consisting of eastern and northern San Diego County. He is a Vietnam veteran, who served in the 173rd Airborne and 75th Army Rangers. In 1973, Hunter attended Western State University Law School (now Thomas Jefferson School of Law) in San Diego on the G.I. Bill, while also working at farming and construction. Opening a law office in Barrio Logan San Diego, Hunter assisted many in the Hispanic community free of charge and without government compensation. In 1980, he was asked to run against Congressman Lionel Van Deerlin, an 18-year incumbent, where, in a 2-to-1 Democrat district, Hunter won the Congressional seat.

Hunter's first assignment in Congress was to the House Armed Services Committee, where he is presently Ranking Member. Hunter focuses his national security efforts on providing the President the resources he needs to win the nation's military conflicts, modernization initiatives that quickly move new and effective technologies into the field, making the Department of Defense more efficient by moving resources from redundant and unnecessary bureaucracy to warfighting capabilities, and strongly supporting our nation's military personnel and their families by ensuring that they are well-compensated and well-equipped with safe and effective weapons and equipment. Prior to his current position as Ranking Member, Hunter served as Chairman of the full committee from 2003-2007, responsible for a defense budget totaling more than $500 billion. Hunter also served as Chairman of the Military Research & Development Subcommittee from 2001-2002 and the Subcommittee on Military Procurement from 1995-2000, where he presided over $60 billion for the acquisition of military weapon systems and components.

Having a district located in the California-Mexico border region, Hunter has made border enforcement a major priority. In 1988, Hunter authored legislation making the military the lead agency in illegal drug interdiction and was successful in obtaining military units for building roads and fencing along the U.S. border with Mexico. Over 40 miles of fencing and border infrastructure have been constructed to date. Additionally, Hunter passed legislation in 1995 to authorize an additional 5,000 Border Patrol agents in response to the Clinton Administration's budget which attempted to cut agency resources. Hunter remains committed to sealing the U.S. border to illegal alien and drug trafficking, ensuring that the region remains safe for communities on both sides of the international boundary.

Hunter's other legislative priorities include fulfilling promises to our nation's veterans, providing tax relief to America's working families, and continuing cleanup efforts at the New River and Salton Sea in Imperial County, which he previously represented for 20 years.


54 posted on 02/14/2007 11:08:26 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: BonnieJ

Because that way, he could have had a further political career.

This way, he simply goes down to ignominious defeat.


55 posted on 02/14/2007 11:08:43 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: BonnieJ
I don't think he was afraid of her. You sure are stuck in a one-track sort of thinking aren't you. You can't see logic.

My irony detector just went off.

56 posted on 02/14/2007 11:09:30 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: EternalVigilance

You are hoping for defeat. It hasn't happened and it may well not.


57 posted on 02/14/2007 11:09:53 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Yes...after he said the following.

"'I'm not confident it's all going to turn around,' Giuliani told CNN's 'Larry King Live.' 'Who knows that? I mean, you never know that in the middle of the war.'"
58 posted on 02/14/2007 11:09:55 PM PST by familyop ("Nice girl, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice." --Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: Spiff

I agree that Rudy is not conservative on social issues but I would be hard pressed to call George Will a fake conservative......see below....also Bill Simon of Calif has sided with him....again, NOT a fake conservative at all.



Due to the challenges facing this country, this election cycle we Republicans need to nominate someone with an actual record of accomplishment of tackling seemingly intractable problems. As George Will said on “This Week,” “His eight years as mayor of New York were the most successful episode of conservative governance in this country in the last 50 years, on welfare and crime particularly." Giuliani, more than any other candidate (Romney comes the closest) has the record of taking on major institutions and reforming them.


59 posted on 02/14/2007 11:10:02 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Howlin

You never cease to amaze me, m'Lady.


60 posted on 02/14/2007 11:11:34 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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