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Giuliani Says He Is Running for President in ’08 [And criticized our President on Iraq.]
New York Times ^ | 15FEB07 | RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA

Posted on 02/14/2007 10:13:40 PM PST by familyop

. . . and, without mentioning President Bush by name, offered pointed criticism on how the Iraq war has been handled . . . He said that the United States went to war with far too few forces and was wrong to dismantle Saddam Hussein’s military and government, and he conceded that if more information had been available about Iraq’s weapons, Congress never would have approved the war.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiitalian; benito; charlatan; fake; fraud; generalissimo; giuliani; iraq; nomilitaryexperience; partysplitter; phony; rudywhopseudocon; snakeoilsalesman; trueconservatives; usingnytimes2attack; zerocorevalues; zerocredibility
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1 posted on 02/14/2007 10:13:44 PM PST by familyop
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To: familyop
...and he conceded that if more information had been available about Iraq’s weapons, Congress never would have approved the war.

He just disqualified himself in my book.
2 posted on 02/14/2007 10:16:24 PM PST by joseph20
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To: joseph20

Agreed.


3 posted on 02/14/2007 10:20:02 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: familyop

Tick... tick... tick...

Just waiting for all the Rudy-bots to show up so they can tell us why we need to vote for Rudy so he'll continue the WoT....


4 posted on 02/14/2007 10:20:10 PM PST by conservatrice
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To: joseph20

Oh my goodness. Don't accept the NYT explanation of things.

I listened to the interview; I'm sure a transcript is around somewhere.

Rudy said what the president himself has said, that mistakes were made. He didn't condemn the president and said it was still the right decision to take Saddam out.

He also said that it's easy in hindsight to see what should have been done differently and when Larry asked him what, Rudy mentioned a few things. That's perfectly appropriate and if anyone thinks that Hunter or any other candidate is going to say that no mistakes were made in Iraq, they're deluding themselves.

On The History Channel there is a weekly show called Military Blunders In History. A lot of the shows deal with mistakes made in WWII by the US and our allies. Every war has problems and mistakes made by those in charge.


5 posted on 02/14/2007 10:21:20 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: conservatrice
Just waiting for all the Rudy-bots to show up so they can tell us why we need to vote for Rudy so he'll continue the WoT....

Betting this thread gets to 400 posts within a couple hours...
6 posted on 02/14/2007 10:22:29 PM PST by Antoninus ("For some, the conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it's my hope" -Duncan Hunter)
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To: familyop
The New York Times? I think I'll wait for a lexis nexis transcript.
7 posted on 02/14/2007 10:24:22 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: conservatrice

Yep. ...related.

Giuliani 'not confident' war will turn around
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785020/posts


8 posted on 02/14/2007 10:25:52 PM PST by familyop
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To: All
Let's ditch this flip-flopping phony for a man with real military knowledge and experience who understands the War on Terror inside and out. Check out Duncan Hunter...



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9 posted on 02/14/2007 10:26:29 PM PST by Antoninus ("For some, the conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it's my hope" -Duncan Hunter)
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To: familyop

Thanks for the link!


10 posted on 02/14/2007 10:28:16 PM PST by conservatrice
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To: Peach

Oh my goodness. Don't accept the NYT explanation of things.

I do! I believe everything they say...because they are sooo much smarter than I am (ok we'll set the bar a bit higher than the flatworm level :-) )

Seriously so many people scream and yell about the bias at the NY Times...then (apparently) buy what they're saying about Rudy. I for one would like to see the transcript of the interview.
Just because someone critizes the way Iraq was/is being done does NOT mean they think we shouldn't be there.


11 posted on 02/14/2007 10:28:52 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: joseph20
From the posted article excerpt:
"...and he conceded that if more information had been available about Iraq’s weapons, Congress never would have approved the war."

joseph20:
"He just disqualified himself in my book."

Yes. Our Constitution says that our President wages war--not Congress. If we had to wait for the approval of Congress, our nation would be conquered. That knowledge is very important in regarding Iran's nuke program and leaders' statements.
12 posted on 02/14/2007 10:29:44 PM PST by familyop
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To: Valin

Exactly. I listened to the interview carefully and thought Rudy handled himself well. If he had denied that there were problems with how the war was handled I'd have questioned his judgment righ then and there.

The president and others in the administration have admitted that they didn't make the correct decision 100% of the time but they went with what they thought was best given the situation and information they had available.


13 posted on 02/14/2007 10:30:46 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: conservatrice
Just waiting for all the Rudy-bots to show up so they can tell us why we need to vote for Rudy so he'll continue the WoT....

Yep. If we don't support the socialist, we're all gonna die. They told me.

/s

Meanwhile, another 4000 American babies were mutilated and sucked from their mother's wombs today...

14 posted on 02/14/2007 10:30:59 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: familyop

Of COURSE mistakes were made. Everyone admits that. Bush, McCain, Kristol, everyone. There should've been more troops a long time ago.

Thinking that this will chill the Rudy juggernaut is just insane. Rudy's support is both wide AND deep. Soon, his nomination will be inevitable. And then he takes out the Hildebeast.

And then...


15 posted on 02/14/2007 10:31:08 PM PST by RepublicanPOTUSin08
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To: familyop

Wow! 1st the NY Times and now CNN. What next Pravda?


16 posted on 02/14/2007 10:31:12 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Peach
Oh my goodness. Don't accept the NYT explanation of things.

Yes but the Rudyphobes must get their nightly fix of bashing and caterwalling. End times will be near accoriding to these folks if the G-man becomes president.

Let's be realistic Duncan is a donut not a president. Mitt will need a miracle. McCain is deranged and do we really want the democrats to win? Keep an open mind fellow freepers.

17 posted on 02/14/2007 10:31:41 PM PST by Maynerd
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To: Maynerd

LOL. Rudy has taken on the mob, Arafat, Castro, and Sharpton. He isn't afraid of Hillary, her FBI files, her War Room, her skills at personal destruction of her opponents, or anyone or anything. Rudy's pretty fearless.


18 posted on 02/14/2007 10:33:03 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
He isn't afraid of Hillary, her FBI files, her War Room, her skills at personal destruction of her opponents, or anyone or anything. Rudy's pretty fearless.

Guess that's why he gave her a pass in '06, eh?

19 posted on 02/14/2007 10:34:52 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: Maynerd
End times will be near accoriding to these folks if the G-man becomes president.

LOL. Who wants to take bets on when the first website goes up that "proves" Rudy is the Beast of the Apocalypse?

20 posted on 02/14/2007 10:35:14 PM PST by RepublicanPOTUSin08
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