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BUSH LINKS DEATHS OF AMERICANS TO IRAN
Kansas City Star ^ | 2/15/07 | RON HUTCHESON and MARGARET TALEV

Posted on 02/15/2007 2:06:19 AM PST by XR7

WASHINGTON | President Bush on Wednesday accused Iran of contributing to American deaths in Iraq and said, “I intend to do something about it.”

But he insisted that he wasn’t looking for another war in the Middle East.

Bush also acknowledged that he doesn’t know whether Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or other top Iranian officials have authorized the shipment of sophisticated roadside bombs to Iraq. The munitions, known as “explosively formed penetrators,” are one of the deadliest weapons used by Iraqi insurgents.

Bush outlined the circumstantial evidence against Iran at a White House news conference dominated by questions on Iraq. He defended his handling of the war as about a dozen House Republicans spoke out against his plan for more troops.

The president’s recent focus on Iranian involvement in Iraq has raised new concerns that the Iraq conflict could spread.

When he announced a troop increase in Iraq on Jan. 10, Bush warned Iran and Syria that U.S. forces would “seek out and destroy the networks providing advanced weaponry and training to our enemies in Iraq.”

Some members of Congress have pushed back against that remark, warning that Bush could be posturing ahead of planned attacks against Iran.

Bush rejected that assertion Wednesday. He said he lacked the authority to order such attacks, and insisted that he would have to first consult Congress before launching strikes against Iran.

Bush has butted heads for months with Ahmadinejad over Iran’s alleged efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. After praising diplomatic efforts that have secured a preliminary agreement through which North Korea would abandon its nuclear weapons program, Bush said he intended to press similar multilateral diplomacy with Tehran.

But he said he saw no benefit in one-on-one talks with Iran, as were recommended in December by a congressional study group headed by former Secretary of State James Baker and former House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Lee Hamilton.

“If I thought we could achieve success, I would sit down,” Bush said. “But I don’t think we can achieve success right now and, therefore, we’ll want to work with other nations.”

Some Bush critics have warned that the same kind of intelligence failures that preceded the war with Iraq — no stockpiles have been found of its alleged chemical and biological weapons — could be leading to a new confrontation with Iran.

Bush lashed out against such charges.

“The idea that somehow we’re manufacturing the idea that the Iranians are providing IEDs (improvised explosive devices, or roadside bombs) is preposterous,” Bush said. “My job is to protect our troops. And when we find devices that are in that country that are hurting our troops, we’re going to do something about it, pure and simple.”

U.S. officials have been trying for days to tamp down fears of war with Iran even as they pressure Tehran to behave, but Bush’s comments Wednesday left ambiguity about his intentions.

Although he said he favors a peaceful resolution and isn’t trying to provoke Iran, he didn’t rule out military action.

He also seemed to shrug off the lack of evidence tying top Iranian officials to the weapons shipments. Bush said the munitions were sent to Iraq by the Quds Force, an elite unit with close ties to the top levels of the Iranian government.

“What’s worse: that the government knew or that the government didn’t know?” Bush asked.

“Whether Ahmadinejad ordered the Quds Force to do this, I don’t think we know. But we know that they’re there.”

Democrats on the Senate Armed Services Committee emerged from a classified briefing Wednesday and said they wanted more information about Iran. The committee chairman, Sen. Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat, said it was unclear to him precisely what the administration knew about the Tehran government’s ties to the weapons found in Iraq.

Bush’s first news conference of the year came as House lawmakers debated a nonbinding resolution denouncing his plans to send more troops to Iraq. The president said that lawmakers “have every right” to criticize his strategy as long as they continue to fund it.

Backers of the resolution opposing the troop increase predicted that about two dozen House Republicans would support the measure when it came to a vote Friday. Almost all Democrats support it, ensuring its passage.

With the resolution headed for passage, Bush focused his attention on the next flash point: his request for $174 billion to fund the war through 2008. The additional funding would push the war’s total cost to more than $500 billion.

Congress will consider the next installment for Iraq next month when it takes up Bush’s request for $99.6 billion in emergency funding for Iraq and Afghanistan. The rest of the Iraq money is in the president’s proposed 2008 budget, which probably won’t face votes until summer.

Although Bush seemed resigned to the likelihood of a rhetorical rebuke from the House, he warned against any effort to restrict war funding. Congressional Democrats have said that funding restrictions could be the next step.

“They have every right to express their opinion … I think you can be against my decision and support the troops, absolutely. But the proof will be whether or not you provide them the money necessary,” Bush said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; ahmahdinejad; ayatollah; iran; iraq; mahdi; nucular; wot
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What's next?
1 posted on 02/15/2007 2:06:22 AM PST by XR7
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To: XR7

start killing them


2 posted on 02/15/2007 2:11:41 AM PST by Enduring Freedom (the agenda of the media will come to full fruition when they carry ak-47s and shoot at our troops)
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To: XR7

Someone needs to stand up to the tyrants! Thank you President Bush, for keeping us safe!!!


3 posted on 02/15/2007 2:20:02 AM PST by RushCrush (Trust in God but tie your camel well.)
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To: XR7

...and just who are the twelve? I heard Ron Paul was one, but I thought he was out of Congress. We are at war and negativism in the form of a non-binding resolution isn't what the country needs right now. So why the posturing by those who really ought to know better?


4 posted on 02/15/2007 2:50:20 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: XR7
But he insisted that he wasn’t looking for another war in the Middle East.

Of course, not.

First of all, it would not be another, it's still the same, and it would not be a war, just a continuation of a "cleaning up" action.

And second, we're not looking for it, but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

5 posted on 02/15/2007 2:51:31 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: XR7

Two words! PARKING LOT!


6 posted on 02/15/2007 2:52:41 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: CutePuppy

BINGO!


7 posted on 02/15/2007 2:53:33 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: wita

Ron Paul is still in Congress, still with an (R) after his name, still a nut.

Why shouldn't they go on record? At least we'll know who stands where for the next elections, especially some Republicans... and even better, some "Blue Dog" Democrats that got elected recently in "red districts" - we may finally find out what the price on the tag was ;-)


8 posted on 02/15/2007 3:00:26 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: XR7

Try doing anything like striking back at Iran. These are American kids being killed.


9 posted on 02/15/2007 3:11:08 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: XR7
"What's next?"

Well, if the following is true,...

"Bush rejected that assertion Wednesday. He said he lacked the authority to order such attacks, and insisted that he would have to first consult Congress before launching strikes against Iran."

...then our leadership is only going to try to stop Iranian attackers as they get into Iran. It's like the tactic used by the Dutch boy in the story. He put his finger in a dike and thereby expected to stop a flood. That's what our politicians and some of our generals are doing. They are receiving a flood of nagging from the noisy kind of constituents who are close to them. In essence, they're running around and putting their fingers in dikes instead of finishing the War.

On the bright side, the War will be finished one way or another, sooner or later. If flashes of political courage miraculously and spontaneously happen, we might come out of it completely intact. If not, then the Islamists will bring the more intense part of the War to our left/liberal major cities. Metaphorically speaking, many of the dikes will be smashed, and we'll have to stop the flood by destroying its source (what should have already been done).
10 posted on 02/15/2007 3:15:45 AM PST by familyop ("Nice girl, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice." --Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: wita
"...and just who are the twelve?"

...the twelve Republicans speaking in favor of the Democrat Resolution to oppose our defense? Their names, contact info and more are behind the following. Someone posted the link to another thread.

http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/02/14/the-spineless-republicans-at-i/
11 posted on 02/15/2007 3:26:17 AM PST by familyop
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To: XR7; Cap Huff

We've started to hunt Iranians in Irag......why do you think Mookie Sadr and his bad boys have fled to the mothership.


12 posted on 02/15/2007 3:50:11 AM PST by Dog
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To: XR7

Why does it matter if they authorized it or not? Any other president would have rained fire on them by now. Do we now need a video for everything?


13 posted on 02/15/2007 4:07:33 AM PST by Graymatter (optional)
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To: XR7
Talk is cheap; the White House has known this for yeaars and what have they done about it?... NOTHING

All I can say is call me when the President decides to finally act, until then, like I said, "talk is cheap." In the meantime Iranian weapons and operatives continue killing more Americans and Iraqi's.

14 posted on 02/15/2007 4:12:26 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Convert, Slavery or Death = "Islam the Religion of Peace tm" "It's time to play Cowboys and Muslims")
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To: XR7

Maybe Jimmy Carter has some suggestions. His dealings with Iran were such a rousing success.


15 posted on 02/15/2007 4:17:31 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Vaclav Klaus: "A whip of political correctness strangles their voice")
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To: CutePuppy

"Blue Dog" Democrats"

My Blue Dog voted for the resolution. He frequently gets a call and/or letter with my sentiments. It does no good. I can't wait until he runs again.































16 posted on 02/15/2007 4:22:15 AM PST by jch10
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To: CutePuppy

Maybe they could quietly go on record, you know double secret on the record. No, probably not. I never have been confused about who stands for what, even without the posturing.


17 posted on 02/15/2007 4:28:14 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: wita; jch10
I never have been confused about who stands for what, even without the posturing.

Maybe they could quietly go on record, you know double secret on the record.

Not everyone is like you. And yes, they are on "double secret probation" :~)

18 posted on 02/15/2007 4:38:49 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: familyop

Thanks.


19 posted on 02/15/2007 4:42:08 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: CutePuppy

I'll certainly agree on double secret probation, and the question for me, is how my single female dem congressperson voted. Up till now she has supported the reddest of states in a manner I would put as exceptional, especially considering her party. Anyone know what the nay dem vote was, or are they sticking together on this one.


20 posted on 02/15/2007 4:48:48 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: mariabush

YO!

LOL! So true...agree.


21 posted on 02/15/2007 5:05:25 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Oprah is a phony money grubbing self centered sleeze ..Now we see how you made your 1.5 Billion!!)
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To: XR7
Democrats on the Senate Armed Services Committee emerged from a classified briefing Wednesday and said they wanted more information about Iran.

immediately started leaking and spinning.

22 posted on 02/15/2007 5:06:33 AM PST by kevkrom (WARNING: The above post may contain sarcasm... if unsure, please remember to use all precautions)
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To: All; XR7

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NEVER FORGET



The Words
http://www.Freerepublic.com/~ALOHARONNIE


The Pictures
http://www.RickRescorla.com/The%20Statue.htm


The Heroism
http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361



NEVER FORGET

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23 posted on 02/15/2007 5:16:27 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: XR7
He said he lacked the authority to order such attacks

I want to see what the President really said regarding his authority to launch attacks against Iran. I doubt that he phrased as the above.

24 posted on 02/15/2007 5:19:09 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: XR7

25 posted on 02/15/2007 5:44:51 AM PST by Gritty (All modern political history seems simply a series of footnotes to George Orwell - Gerard Baker)
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To: familyop

They make decisions based on the next elections even when they know in their heart these decisions are wrong.


26 posted on 02/15/2007 5:59:35 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Yup. Their number one enemy is always political opponents.


27 posted on 02/15/2007 6:03:42 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: wita
...and just who are the twelve? I heard Ron Paul was one, but I thought he was out of Congress.

No, unfortunately the RINO's (except Leach Ia.) are still with us in the House. It's 20 good conservatives we lost in November.

28 posted on 02/15/2007 6:06:20 AM PST by FreeReign (Still waiting for the best conservative candidate.)
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To: XR7
If he is basing this on intelligence gathered, you can bet the Marxist Dimocrats will yell "remember the Iraq intelligence reports!" And yell it to the high heavens. Recent polls show that 99.99978367576455% of Amerikans have moved on, forgotten 9-1-1, and want new reality shows on Fox, and don't care about the war. As long as the pizza man can deliver in time for the big game, Uncle Sam continues the free giveaways, hey life is good, don't tell me about no war! /sarcasm still on.
29 posted on 02/15/2007 6:08:20 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Marxis-Dimocrats, Enemies of the Republic, the ENEMY within!)
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To: Graymatter
Any other president would have rained fire on them by now.

Please let people know when you're making a joke.

Otherwise they might thing you're serious, and then YOU become the joke.

30 posted on 02/15/2007 6:19:14 AM PST by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops!!)
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To: XR7

"But he insisted that he wasn’t looking for another war in the Middle East"





he doesn't have to, we already have it


31 posted on 02/15/2007 6:24:15 AM PST by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process™ •)
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To: XR7

So, what are we doing about this? Faster, Please, indeed.


32 posted on 02/15/2007 6:25:54 AM PST by sono (There are only two exit strategies - One is victory, the other defeat - Joe Lieberman)
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To: Enduring Freedom
start killing them

I think that's exactly what I would do. If it crosses the border into Iraq from Iran or Syria without permission, I would vaporize it. Having denied that obvious link, Iran and Syria couldn't even acknowledge the action. That gives us political cover, I would use it...

33 posted on 02/15/2007 6:32:45 AM PST by IamConservative (Any man who agrees with you on everything, will lie to anyone.)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Kaboom!


34 posted on 02/15/2007 6:33:19 AM PST by zendari
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To: mariabush
You don't know how right you are! The reason we won WWII was that we excepted nothing short of unconditional surrender. We broke their spirit! It is the only way to win a war! Screw PC!

If it's not true, what did we get in regard to Korea, and Vietnam? PC killed the possiblity of winning. It will remain that way till war becomes serious again, meaning mainly that are politicians don't have the stomach for it. Our troops are the best there is, but they can't fight and win a war where the rule book has to be checked every thirty seconds.
35 posted on 02/15/2007 6:47:03 AM PST by Issaquahking (Pardon Compean and Ramos Now!)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Can't disagree!


36 posted on 02/15/2007 6:50:23 AM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: XR7

Iran has sh*t on us for almost 30 years and we've done nothing. I dont expect that to change anytime soon.


37 posted on 02/15/2007 6:52:59 AM PST by DogBarkTree (The United States failure to act against Iran will be seen as weakness throughout the Muslim world.)
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To: XR7

Good post!

I hear Dems saying "Stop this war."

Sure......be glad to.....

RIGHT AFTER WE WIN THIS WAR!


38 posted on 02/15/2007 6:53:42 AM PST by TheRobb7 (Border security is NOT Racism...it's PATRIOTISM.)
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To: XR7

39 posted on 02/15/2007 6:54:57 AM PST by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: XR7

Time to bring back this "Oldie but Goodie" :

Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, BOMB IRAN!
Let's take a stand, bomb Iran.
Our country's got a feelin'
Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.

Went to a mosque, gonna throw some rocks.
Tell the Ayatollah..."Gonna put you in a box!"
Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Our country's got a feelin'
Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.

Ol' Uncle Sam's gettin' pretty hot.
Time to turn Iran into a parking lot. Bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.

Call the volunteers; call the bombadiers;
Call the financiers, better get their ass in gear.
Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Our country's got a feelin'
Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.

Call on our allies to cut off their supplies,
Get our hands untied, and bring em' back alive. Bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Our country's got a feelin'
Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.

Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, BOMB IRAN!
Let's take a stand, bomb Iran.
Our people you been stealin'
Now it's time for keelin', bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.


40 posted on 02/15/2007 6:55:03 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: XR7

Whatever Bush's plans are, he needs to keep them under wraps and not tell the press, that's for sure. THEY don't need to know squat about our "plans", because all they'll do is tell our enemies.

I hope something IS being done behind the scenes...


41 posted on 02/15/2007 7:11:26 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: dfwgator; All

I know this is probably not plausible, but I'll just put this on the table:

Does our military have the capacity to stop any oil from getting OUT of Iran? (ie. bombing pipelines, stopping tankers, etc.)

Just thought that, if Iran couldn't get the oil OUT of the country, then they couldn't make any money off it.

Just a thought. Comments welcome.


42 posted on 02/15/2007 7:13:12 AM PST by TheRobb7 (Border security is NOT Racism...it's PATRIOTISM.)
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To: familyop

I agree 100% with your post!


43 posted on 02/15/2007 7:13:24 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: TheRobb7

Destroying the oil pipelines is bad for the world. If we do that, it would be years, possibly decades before oil production would return to it's current level. If the Iranian gov't falls, what will be the new gov'ts export? Oil. That would be shooting yourself in the foot before the race even started.


44 posted on 02/15/2007 7:15:52 AM PST by ConservatismNow
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To: ConservatismNow; All

I see your point.

I guess my next question then, is instead of blowing up piplelines, perhaps "cutting them off" at a certain point.

Do pipleines hae safety valves or some kind of mechanism to shut off the flow at certain places in emergency situations?

The bottom line that I'm getting at is to come up with a way to prevent Iran from exporting until there is a regime change.

Again, thanks for responding. :)


45 posted on 02/15/2007 7:22:37 AM PST by TheRobb7 (Border security is NOT Racism...it's PATRIOTISM.)
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To: familyop

Thanks, I just emailed my congressman (RINO LaTourette) about this.


46 posted on 02/15/2007 7:33:43 AM PST by agrace ("Kill the Jews and infidels!" = free speech; "Muslims preach violence!" = hate speech)
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To: XR7

I love how slanted this article is. If you saw the press conference, the President emphasized that we KNOW particular Iranian troops are behind the attacks, and we KNOW those troops are commanded by the Iranian government. We do not know if they are receiving orders from the President of Iran, but we don't need to know. The article focuses on "we do not know if they are receiving orders from the President of Iran," ignoring the context completely.


47 posted on 02/15/2007 8:08:29 AM PST by Texas Federalist (Gingrich '08)
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To: jude24; P-Marlowe; XR7
Bush outlined the circumstantial evidence

They have traced serial numbers on pieces of hardware and on weaponry. That doesn't equate to circumstantial evidence to me; it equates to physical evidence.

Do I need to be corrected on the difference between the two?

48 posted on 02/15/2007 8:33:33 AM PST by xzins
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To: XR7

Either the Quds Force is doing this with the authorization of the highest levels of the Iranian government, or they are acting on their own. If the former, a regime change is needed. If not, the Iranian governemnt must bring the Quds Force to heel.


49 posted on 02/15/2007 8:52:02 AM PST by jmcenanly (Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy. -- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: TheRobb7
You need to talk to someone who worked for ARAMCO (ARab AMerican COmpany) as to whether they have blow out protectors, etc, on their well heads.

The current government being killed off, would be a good start.
50 posted on 02/15/2007 9:16:42 AM PST by Issaquahking (Pardon Compean and Ramos Now!)
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