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Over-50s 'worst carbon culprits'
BBC ^ | 2/16/07 | Staff

Posted on 02/16/2007 8:21:11 AM PST by qam1

People aged between 50 and 64 have the UK's largest "carbon footprints", according to research.

But they are also the most concerned about climate change, and want the government to do more to tackle global warming, the study says. The report - Greening the Grays - is published by the Stockholm Environment Institute at the University of York.

The research included analysis of UK residents by age and expenditure, along with surveys and focus groups. Researchers found that people in the 50-64 age group have a carbon footprint of 13.52 tonnes per capita per year, compared with the UK average of 11.81 tonnes.

Carbon intensive activities, such as high car dependence, holidays abroad and eating out, are factors which contribute to the size of their footprint.

"In order to close the gap between concern for climate change and the impact of current lifestyles, the government needs to take action to make a low carbon lifestyle an easier option not just for the over-50s, but for everyone."

But the report adds that the over-50s worry about the climate their grandchildren will inherit, and feel frustrated by what they see as the failure of the government and businesses to tackle the problem adequately.

Dr Gary Haq, researcher on lifestyle and climate change and lead author of the report, said the government should take measures to help everyone in the UK lead a less carbon intensive life, not just the older population.

"The government is essentially pushing at an open door with regard to achieving a change in behaviour in the over-50s and a move to a low..........

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: babyboomers; genx; globalwarming; limousineliberals
Another example of how everyone is all for conservation, as long as they ain't the ones who have to do the conserving
1 posted on 02/16/2007 8:21:14 AM PST by qam1
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To: qam1

Paging John Edwards...


2 posted on 02/16/2007 8:24:03 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: qam1
Here's the solution:


3 posted on 02/16/2007 8:24:59 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: qam1

Well, yeah, it's that methane gas thing... ;)


4 posted on 02/16/2007 8:25:14 AM PST by madison10
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To: qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; m18436572; InShanghai; xrp; ...
Xer Ping

Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details and previous articles.

5 posted on 02/16/2007 8:26:28 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1
Let's kill all people whose "carbon footprint" is larger than we think it should be.

That'll teach 'em.

This is not sarcasm.

It will eventually come to this.

Environmentalism is a religion, and "sustainability" is its "salvation."


6 posted on 02/16/2007 8:26:32 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: qam1

One word:

BUICKS


7 posted on 02/16/2007 8:26:40 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: qam1

Now what? An excuse to eliminate them because of crimes against the environment?


8 posted on 02/16/2007 8:26:47 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: qam1
U.K to promote Euthanasia to save the planet from Global Warming./sarc

9 posted on 02/16/2007 8:27:13 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHVH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya’aqob.”Isaiah 60:16)
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To: xcamel

Ping


10 posted on 02/16/2007 8:28:00 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

BBC "It's all the Baby Boomers fault" alert?


11 posted on 02/16/2007 8:28:30 AM PST by poobear (Carter & Clinton - 'The Latter Day Church Of Jew Haters & Horndogs')
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To: qam1

My guess is that these over 50's have been successful and are enjoying some of the fruits of their success such as air conditioning, new cars, washing machines, etc. It is just massive jealousy, I think.


12 posted on 02/16/2007 8:29:17 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: qam1

"Carbon intensive activities, such as high car dependence, holidays abroad and eating out, are factors which contribute to the size of their footprint."


Yes, people need to stay home in the basement, turn out the lights and don't eat anything.


13 posted on 02/16/2007 8:29:22 AM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: metmom

Maybe there ought to be Nuremburg type trials - oh wait they already thought of that


14 posted on 02/16/2007 8:29:41 AM PST by Domicile of Doom (Center amber dot on head and squeeze for best results)
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To: qam1

"But the report adds that the over-50s worry about the climate their grandchildren will inherit, and feel frustrated by what they see as the failure of the government and businesses to tackle the problem adequately.


These over 50's are the same ones that are leaving their grandchildren in a total liberal socialist nannie state. And they are frustrated by the failure of their government?

Look in the frigging mirror for the problem.


15 posted on 02/16/2007 8:30:03 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah, how dare those people enjoy themselves by eating out and going on vacations. The government should outlaw restaurants and holidays. Then they can institute government approved rations to ensure that everyone's carbon footprint is equal.


16 posted on 02/16/2007 8:30:47 AM PST by kenth (I wish compassionate conservatives were more compassionate to conservatism.)
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To: qam1

What did Karl Marx call his brand of socialism? He used the term "scientific socialism", to give it and air of authority and precision. In the end, all these "socialism" turn to the bayonet to enforce their will when the people no longer go along voluntarily. History is your friend.


17 posted on 02/16/2007 8:30:58 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I want to know what the 'carbon footprint' will be for algore's global warming concert this summer.

For starters, how much jet fuel will be burned to bring in the performers?

How much trash will be generated by the audience?

I will also be paying attention to which companies are sponsoring this event.

18 posted on 02/16/2007 8:31:47 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel is the Republican Joe Biden!)
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To: qam1
"In order to close the gap between concern for climate change and the impact of current lifestyles, the government needs to take action to make a low carbon lifestyle an easier option not just for the over-50s, but for everyone."

A 'Low Carbon Lifestyle'...that just sounds so gay.

The inbreeding on that island has got to stop!

19 posted on 02/16/2007 8:31:48 AM PST by CrawDaddyCA (Paul/Tancredo 2008)
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To: qam1

How old is AL GORE?


20 posted on 02/16/2007 8:32:25 AM PST by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Heh heh...


21 posted on 02/16/2007 8:32:37 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: metmom
Now what? An excuse to eliminate them because of crimes against the environment?

Well, not the 50-year olds --- they're still being bleed errr... I mean paying taxes. But for those over age 64, it's intolerable that they cause so much destruction while "contributing" so little. This definitely calls for a Green Final Solution.

22 posted on 02/16/2007 8:33:31 AM PST by Ditto
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To: qam1; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; Mrs. Don-o; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off
Click on graphic for full GW rundown


23 posted on 02/16/2007 8:35:07 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: qam1

Oh, for pity's sake. Eating out and carbon footprints. Harumph *snort*


24 posted on 02/16/2007 8:36:17 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: qam1

The carbon units are infesting the planet. V'Ger (aka Al Gore) says that the carbon units must be patterned for data storage.

25 posted on 02/16/2007 8:36:27 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Have you seen Rick Perry's brain? Neither has he!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

RENEW!


26 posted on 02/16/2007 8:41:43 AM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: qam1
BS!

I will put up my carbon footprint aganst any 20 or 30-something any day of the week.

50to64-year-olds are party animals?Give me a break!

But this article raises a fascinating question: who estabishes the "carbon-footprint" budget for every human activity? Who appointed them? Who pays their salary? Do they make stuff up and change things to suit their current ideology?

Inquiring minds...

27 posted on 02/16/2007 8:44:46 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

A "Blast From the Past?"


28 posted on 02/16/2007 8:46:39 AM PST by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: qam1

In the USA we call them the babie boomers right? Hippie freaks.


29 posted on 02/16/2007 8:46:54 AM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked)
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To: metmom
Now what? An excuse to eliminate them because of crimes against the environment?

Proposed "Green" crimes...
The camel has its nose under the tent.

GREEN CRIMES

30 posted on 02/16/2007 8:47:55 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Ditto

They didn't call it Soylent *GREEN* for nothing!


31 posted on 02/16/2007 8:48:28 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: qam1
"Carbon" is fuel for mobility and heat against the cold. Methinks an attempt to create a hydraulic empire is feverishly being pursued here.

32 posted on 02/16/2007 8:49:22 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: qam1
The goal is to be more like North Korea


33 posted on 02/16/2007 8:51:01 AM PST by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I was wondering when the first "Logan's Run" reference would show up on this thread.


34 posted on 02/16/2007 8:51:37 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: Ditto

Like Soylent Green.

Funny the play on words for a movie made so long ago.


35 posted on 02/16/2007 8:58:12 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: qam1

Now MANBEARPIG approved........Soylent Green!

36 posted on 02/16/2007 8:58:54 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: qam1

This study has one or two holes - as you might expect. For example, old people who heat with electricity generated by nuclear power will have a markedly lower carbon footprints than those who burn coal and wood -- both are distinct possibilities in Yorkshire. Oops coal mining is a major industry in Yorkshire. Let's close down the pits!! No we can't do that because then they will stay home and generate more carbon (see below). Better lets send everybody to the Costa Brava or Florida where the winters are warm, that will produce a clear net carbon saving of immense proportions as long as they don't all go out to eat!! Okay we need the carbon footprints of those who work but spend the winter in Costa Brava/Florida to the second decimal place in tons of carbon. I bet you it's way below 11.81 tonnes!!


Secondly since this research only covered people over 50 - how do they know that the 45-49 year olds are not the real villains? And what about those 42 to 43 year olds? Did you check what 39.5 year olds were doing? This is a pathetic research methodology.

Third, what kind of pronouncement is really warranted without knowing the make-up of the survey population since there is a clear suggestion that those who stay at home are bigger culprits than those who go to work (unless of course they are those nasty enablers who work down the mines). Seems to me that by the logic of this study, cutting unemployment, welfare and OAPs will reduce the carbon footprints of two entire generations.

The whole think is bizarrely stupid, simple-minded and has a real luddite ring about it.


37 posted on 02/16/2007 9:07:02 AM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: qam1
I do not live in the UK but my carbon foot print is huge, and with any luck it will get even bigger this next year as I start my own business!

What I see as the worst thing about this carbon credit trading that is talked about, is how much it will hurt small business. It is just another barrier to entry into the market place that the big corporations would love to have in place.
38 posted on 02/16/2007 9:15:40 AM PST by Veloxherc (To go up pull back, to go down pull back all the way.)
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To: kenth
"Winston was smoking a Victory Cigarette which he held carefully horizontal. The new ration did not start till tomorrow and he had only four cigarettes left. For the moment he had shut his ears to the remoter noises and was listening to the stuff that streamed out of the telescreen. It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grammes a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grammes a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it. Parsons swallowed it easily, with the stupidity of an animal. The eyeless creature at the other table swallowed it fanatically, passionately, with a furious desire to track down, denounce, and vaporize anyone who should suggest that last week the ration had been thirty grammes. Syme, too-in some more complex way, involving doublethink, Syme swallowed it. Was he, then, alone in the possession of a memory?"

1984, Chapter 5

Remember IngSoc is English Socialism ...coming sooner than you think...
39 posted on 02/16/2007 9:26:49 AM PST by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: dfwgator; SoCal Pubbie; litehaus; Huck; Tijeras_Slim
Anyone old enough to remember Logan's Run should be included.
40 posted on 02/16/2007 10:07:52 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: SoCal Pubbie

You win the prize for Obscure Yet Highly Appropriate Movie Reference.


41 posted on 02/16/2007 10:08:54 AM PST by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Who could forget Jenny Agutter? :)


42 posted on 02/16/2007 10:11:38 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Beelzebubba

Independent of your reply, over the last few days I have had a compulsion to buy a 64 buick riviera. hmmm,,,


43 posted on 02/16/2007 12:02:08 PM PST by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: qam1

Beware of Soylent Green!


44 posted on 02/16/2007 1:26:55 PM PST by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
> This is not sarcasm.
> It will eventually come to this.

I agree. I have long suspected that, within the next 10 years, the next step on the slippery slope will be "family-guided assisted euthanasia" or something like that. I can even imagine some state governments giving tax breaks to families that choose this "option" for their elderly members.

45 posted on 02/16/2007 6:15:43 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Logan's Run ping!

And the Sandmen drove those cool electric cars. They looked just like the GM EV1!

46 posted on 02/18/2007 7:12:50 PM PST by magellan
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To: qam1

At 69 I go for making my "carbon footprint" as large as posible, maybe I can stomp on a whole bunch of wachos with every step.


47 posted on 02/18/2007 7:16:51 PM PST by dalereed
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