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McCain: Rumsfeld is one of the worst defense secretaries
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/19/mccain.ap/index.html ^

Posted on 02/20/2007 3:48:45 AM PST by darkness78

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To: darkness78

You go to war with the army you have,not the army you wish you had. Mccain running to the left.Who'a thunk it?


21 posted on 02/20/2007 4:36:23 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: darkness78

This is a very interesting turnabout for John McCain. He praised Rumsfeld when he resigned. Now he has harsh criticism. Because I look for consistency in genuine leaders, McCain has taken a step backward. IMO McCain regrets that the country is so polarized over the Iraq war thanks mostly to the steady drumbeat of lies by the MSM. But even if Rumsfeld added more troops we may or may not be where we are now.

The problem may not be more troops, but failure to conduct the war to achieve a decisive victory. We are using rules of engagement that makes victory difficult or impossible (remember Vietnam?). Rumsfeld failed to get rid of Sadr early on, and he failed to use our technology to wipe out the enemy in the Sunni Triangle. Rumsfeld allowed the enemy to use mosques, to use the general population as hostages, and, worse, he helped the enemy by persecuting our own boys for doing their jobs "too well." Rumsfeld had no strategy to prosecute or counter the seditious enemy within. Yet he had thousands of potential witnesses (our own men and women in the armed forces) to the unreported successes in Iraq.

IMO adding troops without changing the rules of engagement would be futile.


22 posted on 02/20/2007 4:56:34 AM PST by olezip
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To: olezip
When then White House micromanages the war, there's not much Rummy can do.
23 posted on 02/20/2007 5:11:22 AM PST by PolishProud (A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants)
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To: darkness78

mcpain, mcinsane, mclame (whatever or whoever he is known as) still is one of the worst senators in the history of this nation. This person isn't worthy of being a b____ for a dog much less a senator. Too bad he's running for the highest office in the land. mcpain, mcinsane, mclame (whatever or whoever he is known as) or hitlery (choose one).....pardon me I'll pass. I'd throw up constantly for days, if I voted for either.


24 posted on 02/20/2007 5:14:52 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: SIDENET
"I wouldn't give you a dime for all three."

True, but McCain is the least acceptable of that "three-stack".

25 posted on 02/20/2007 5:16:03 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
And the reason for bringing this up now is

"I do not support Roe vs. Wade. It should be overturned," - to pander to the right....

"I think that Donald Rumsfeld will go down in history as one of the worst secretaries of defense in history," - to pander to the left....

He's making sure all the bases are covered and that both sides are pandered to equally...that's how he intends to get the "middle".
26 posted on 02/20/2007 5:27:15 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: darkness78

The thing is - why can't the media recognize that John McCain is certifiable.



I just to post this again:

My John McCain (up close and personal) story, from the 2000 South Carolina Primary.

Greenville SC - the 2000 Presidential primary - John McCain had just beaten ‘W’ in the NH primary and the “Straight Talk Express” rolled into South Carolina.

I was a McCain supporter - positive that he was the real deal.

I drove to a McCain speech and public appearance. It was a day I will never forget as long as I live.

That day I witnessed John McCain behave unlike any appearance I had ever seen on TV - the man was unhinged.

After a 15 minute canned speech - he decided to address his competition in the primary - George W. Bush. He did so by beginning with, “I am Luke Skywalker, and my opponents are members of the Empire. Together we will form the rebellion and defeat Darth Vadar”. He yelled this - first pumping - his voice full of anger - his face - beet red - and his eyes - well - they were scary.

The crowd instantly went from supportive - to bewildered.

He obviously didn’t pick up on the mood change - because he went on for another 5 minutes - ranting and raving about how everyone was lying about his record - his views - and he, “wasn’t going to take it any more” (remember the movie Network).

It was surreal.

When he finished - and with the prodding of an aid - he left the stage, while we in the crowd just stood there - stunned - and honestly - completely confused.

I asked a woman next to me: “what the hell just happened?” She answered: “that man is freaking nuts!”

I came home - walked in the house - sat on the couch and just looked at the wall. I suddenly realized - the man pushed on television - was not the man at all.

I have told this story many times - to many people - and I have heard the same story told back to me by others who have seen similar John McCain episodes.

I am not given to criticize anyone lightly ladies and gentlemen.

I am sure John McCain is a good man - but listen to me - and please believe me.

JOHN MCCAIN is NOT FIT TO LEAD THIS NATION.

John McCain is unstable. John McCain is freaking nuts!


27 posted on 02/20/2007 5:29:48 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: darkness78

Yet again, McCain has soiled the lower trouser leg of the media.


28 posted on 02/20/2007 5:48:46 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Point your toilets towards Mecca!)
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To: darkness78
In no way do I mean to promote McCain but on this one he is right. The Neo-con argument that Iraq could be a Democracy I always thought was ludicrous from the beginning. Rumsfeld's major mistake was going in with to few troops so now 6 years later we have to have a "surge" after it is probably to late(to late means trying to win the war in the next 2 years before the Dem's takeover and pull the plug).
29 posted on 02/20/2007 5:52:51 AM PST by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
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To: darkness78

Who knew McC hated Rummy! LOL......give it up already jon2....you are not going to be President!


30 posted on 02/20/2007 5:54:02 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: mariabush

___ To John McCain, and Murtha!!!!

A worthless man digs up evil,
While his words are like scorching fire.

A perverse man spreads strife,
And a slanderer separates intimate friends.

Proverbs 16:27,28 NASB





31 posted on 02/20/2007 5:57:04 AM PST by buck61
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To: JohnLongIsland
"how could anybody seriously consider voting for mccain in the primaries, then again how could anybody seriously consider voting for guliani or romney?"

Because you're not running?

32 posted on 02/20/2007 5:58:32 AM PST by Williams
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To: darkness78

Look up 'sold their souls' and you will see pictures of mccaine and others of his ilk...despicable power hungry egotistics and megalomaniacs, the whole lot.


33 posted on 02/20/2007 6:10:56 AM PST by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: PolishProud

You make an excellent point! Maybe Rummy was carrying the water for some other higher up. Nonetheless the lack of common sense in carrying out the war is why we have allowed the press and the leftist, socialist revolutionaries (many Democrats) to put this country into the same position it was when we were actually winning in Vietnam. We snatched defeat from the jaws of victory then, and maybe again now.


34 posted on 02/20/2007 6:17:10 AM PST by olezip
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To: darkness78
While in Iowa, John McCain said on Saturday, "One of the things I would do, the first day I am President of the United States, is close Guantanamo Bay. I would close it and I would move those prisoners to Fort Leavenworth. It's become a symbol, which is very bad for America."

That's a direct quote from Senator McCain. At about 49 minutes into the video, his quote can be found in this C-Span "Road to the White House":

rtsp://video.c-span.org/project/rwh/rwh021807.rm
35 posted on 02/20/2007 6:29:32 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: darkness78

Rummy Supporters: "McWhacked is one of the Worst Congress Critters."


36 posted on 02/20/2007 6:32:06 AM PST by Babu
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To: darkness78
McCain said Monday the war in Iraq has been mismanaged for years and former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld will be remembered as one of the worst in history

Rumsfeld is a better man than McCain.

Rumsfeld would make a good candidate for POTUS.

37 posted on 02/20/2007 6:34:55 AM PST by oldbrowser (First, Do No Harm.)
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To: darkness78

This dork didn't have the balls to stand-up and say this when Rummy was in office for the last 6 years. What a pantywaist!


38 posted on 02/20/2007 6:37:16 AM PST by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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To: darkness78
I think, in the end,the press will bear the blame for interfering with the war.

Maybe Rumsfeld will bear some blame for neglecting to arrange to censor the press.

6 months (and 11,000 US deaths) into the Korean War
the Truman Administration imposed full wartime censorship* and continued to draft thousands of young men.

*The link leads to a Jan 9, 1951 news article. Here are a few of the many rules

Correspondents were placed under army jurisdiction and were subject to courtmartial.
Correspondent could not criticize the Allies' conduct of the war and could not dispatch demoralizing reports
Correspondents could not quote officers or report casualties without authorization.

39 posted on 02/20/2007 6:42:34 AM PST by syriacus (6 months into Truman's Korean War -- Censorship imposed; 11,000 US deaths; thousands more drafted)
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To: darkness78

Appears as though the poster boy for Lincoln Federal is disturbed about falling from the good graces of the MSM as the ranking Maverick in the Senate.


40 posted on 02/20/2007 6:56:11 AM PST by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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