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Ron Paul, the Real Republican? (Announcing the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
Fox News ^ | February 20, 2007 | Radley Balko

Posted on 02/20/2007 8:59:49 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian

Ron Paul, the Real Republican?

Tuesday, February 20, 2007
By Radley Balko

When you read about a vote in Congress that goes something like 412-1, odds are pretty good that the sole "nay" came from Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas. He so consistently votes against widely popular bills, in fact, that the Washington Post recently gave him the moniker "Congressman 'No.'"

Paul isn't a reflexive contrarian--he doesn't oppose just to oppose. Rather, he has a core set of principles that guide him. They happen to be the same principles envisioned by the framers of the U.S. Constitution: limited government, federalism, free trade and commerce -- with a premium on peace.

When most members of Congress see a bill for the first time, they immediately judge the bill on its merits, or if you're more cynical, they determine what the political interests that support them will think of it, or how it might benefit their constituents.

For Paul, the vast majority of bills don't get that far. He first asks, "Does the Constitution authorize Congress to pass this law?" Most of the time, the answer to that question is "no." And so Paul votes accordingly.

This hasn't won him many friends in Congress, or, for that matter, his own party. It hasn't won him influential committee assignments or powerful chairmanships, either. Those are generally handed out to the party animals who vote as they're told. An incorruptible man of principle in a corrupt body almost utterly devoid of principle, Paul is often a caucus of one.

Paul recently announced his intentions to run for president in 2008. For the few of us who still care about limited government, individual rights, and a sensible foreign policy, Paul's candidacy is terrific news....Continue reading

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KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; ronpaul; velvetrevolution
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RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for Pro-Life social conservatives.

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for Tax-Cutting fiscal conservatives.

RON PAUL is the ONLY 100% Anti-Terrorist candidate.

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for National Defense and Foreign Affairs.

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for the Bill of Rights.

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate on Illegal Immigration.

RON PAUL is the ONLY socially-conservative Candidate defending the independence of the Christian Church from Federal "Faith-Based Socialism".

RON PAUL. The RIGHT Candidate for a FREE Republic.


Please let me know if you would like to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List (GRPPL), already developing support on the Free Republic Religion Forum.
1 posted on 02/20/2007 8:59:50 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: Gamecock; elkfersupper; dcwusmc; gnarledmaw; Extremely Extreme Extremist; KoRn; traviskicks; ...

Ron Paul for President! (Ping to current GRPPL members)


2 posted on 02/20/2007 9:00:38 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Ron Paul should be the rule, not the execption.


3 posted on 02/20/2007 9:01:36 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Have a nice day. Durka durka durka...)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Gag, Ron Paul is a member of the surrender lobby, as a Reaganite I will look elsewhere, thanks.


4 posted on 02/20/2007 9:02:09 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Note: The source in the "Pro-Life" section refers to Duncan Hunter's flawed "Right to Life Act", in contrast to Ron Paul's better-written "Sanctity of Life Act".


5 posted on 02/20/2007 9:02:38 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Ron Paul turned his back on the troops.


6 posted on 02/20/2007 9:03:22 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Elections have repercussions, you reap what you sow.))
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To: Patrick1
The ruling government of Iraq is dominated by the psychopathic gang of murderers known as the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI) and the Islamic Al Dawa Party, who are the very same Islamic Terrorist Parties which bombed the US & French Embassies in Kuwait and murdered 241 United States Marines in Beirut in 1983. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, of the Al Dawa Party, was the Al Dawa bureau chief in Damascus in the 1980s and was thus heavily responsible for Al Dawa operations in Beirut, while parliament member Jamal Jafaar Mohammed of his ruling coalition is one of the "Kuwait 17", still under a Kuwaiti death sentence (in absentia) for his direct involvement in the vicious attack on the US Embassy in Kuwait! Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate calling for an immediate END to all Military and Financial support for the criminal Islamic Terrorist thug-regime of Iraq.
7 posted on 02/20/2007 9:03:41 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Ron Paul voted with the Democrats on the "non-binding resolution" on Iraq.

He is political "dead meat" as far as I'm concerned.

Were you aware of this and didn't give a hoot or are you just pushing damaged goods?

8 posted on 02/20/2007 9:03:42 AM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Please add me to your Ron Paul ping list.


9 posted on 02/20/2007 9:04:12 AM PST by M203M4
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
An incorruptible man of principle

Except, of course, when it means keeping his word on term limits.

Then he reveals himself to be as corruptible as any member of Congress.

10 posted on 02/20/2007 9:04:46 AM PST by wideawake
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Ron Paul is anything but a Republican.

If anything, he is a traditional Whig but he does not even meet those criteria.

He is a Libertarian by most modern standards, and a royal pain in the arse.

11 posted on 02/20/2007 9:04:54 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

While Ron Paultalks a great game, his recent vote in favor of the Democrat's abandon-the-troops-in-Iraq bill causes me to differ.

His vote against reinforcement of the troops will get good men killed in Iraq and gave aid and comfort to the terrorists.

Ergo, Ron Paul is an evil little man, not worthy of respect, regardless of his great speeches.


12 posted on 02/20/2007 9:05:45 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: bnelson44; capt. norm
Ron Paul turned his back on the troops.

He did NO such thing. Ron Paul is the ONLY Republican candidate who wants to get our troops out of harm's way and home to their families, by ending all Military and Financial support for the criminal Islamic Terrorist regime of Iraq.

Ron Paul: the Right Candidate for Our Troops. Bring 'em home alive, Ron!

13 posted on 02/20/2007 9:06:32 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

I'd like to see Ron Paul as President, but I'd accept him as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, too.


14 posted on 02/20/2007 9:06:36 AM PST by mysterio
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
And whether someone stabs our fighting men in the back out of principle or for money, I don't much care what motivated him to become evil.

Ron Paul is still a contemptible scumbag.

15 posted on 02/20/2007 9:06:46 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
He kept his word on term limits during his first stint in Congress.

Rightly or wrongly, though, term limits have turned into a dead letter issue since his re-election to Congress.

16 posted on 02/20/2007 9:08:51 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: wideawake

"And whether someone stabs our fighting men in the back out of principle or for money, I don't much care what motivated him to become evil."

A great example of C.S. Lewis's thesis that the exaggeration and single mindedness of almost any good quality, above all other, eventually becomes evil.


17 posted on 02/20/2007 9:08:56 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Ron Paul is the ONLY Republican candidate who wants to get our troops out of harm's way and home to their families

In other words, he wants to cut and run.

Nice rhetoric.

When the primary returns start coming in for Paul, you should shop your resume to the Obama campaign - or to the Hugo Chavez campaign if he decides to go through the charade of running again.

18 posted on 02/20/2007 9:09:00 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Cold Heat
Ron Paul is anything but a Republican. If anything, he is a traditional Whig but he does not even meet those criteria. He is a Libertarian by most modern standards, and a royal pain in the arse.

To all advocates of Big Government, he sure is!

19 posted on 02/20/2007 9:10:20 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

I got to admit that I like him on most issues but then he went and stood with the Democrats on the "surrender" vote. He may have had his own reasons but he still let himself be counted for their argument. I can't forgive that.


20 posted on 02/20/2007 9:10:37 AM PST by Gator101
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Ron Paul: the Right Candidate for Our Troops. Bring 'em home alive, Ron!

You and Hillary, Kerry, Kennedy, Edwards and Obama share the same view.

It's not a view widely shared on this forum>

We want them to come home in victory and not with their "tails between their legs" like the returning vets from Vietnam had to endure.

21 posted on 02/20/2007 9:10:37 AM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: wideawake

Thankfully he has absolutely no chance of ever being President of the United States.


22 posted on 02/20/2007 9:10:44 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
LOL!

He's still in Congress!

Rightly or wrongly, though, term limits have turned into a dead letter issue since his re-election to Congress.

So, in other words, term limits were important to him once, but not important anymore now that he's exceeded his own original term limit promise.

23 posted on 02/20/2007 9:10:59 AM PST by wideawake
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

"Does the Constitution authorize Congress to pass this law?" Most of the time, the answer to that question is "no." And so Paul votes accordingly.

Indeed.


24 posted on 02/20/2007 9:11:26 AM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: Patrick1

Reagan pulled the marines out of Lebanon. Do you think he'd be stil be in Iraq?


25 posted on 02/20/2007 9:11:34 AM PST by jd777
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

No doubt Ron Paul is fantastic. What we love about him is what makes him so unelectable though. Imagining what a RP presidency would look like sure makes me smile.


26 posted on 02/20/2007 9:11:36 AM PST by Clump (Your family may not be safe, but at least their library records will be.)
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To: wideawake

"In other words, he wants to cut and run."

Yep. If he truly wanted to help the troops, he would help them get the job done, not stab them in the back and give a propaganda victory to the mullahs.

Ron Paul is worse than the Murtha Democrats, because Ron Paul knows better.


27 posted on 02/20/2007 9:11:58 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Clump

"Imagining what a RP presidency would look like sure makes me smile."

Makes the terrorists smile, too.


28 posted on 02/20/2007 9:12:46 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Historically, with one exception, American's don't elect congress critters to be president.

You may be wasting bandwidth - but he is a better choice than ole Rudy.

29 posted on 02/20/2007 9:13:07 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade - piss on Islam)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Put me on the ping list. Paul is da man!


30 posted on 02/20/2007 9:13:10 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Patrick1
Gag, Ron Paul is a member of the surrender lobby

Ron Paul wants Saddam back in power. Too bad for Ron.

31 posted on 02/20/2007 9:13:11 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Wow I had not idea that Paul supported some of these! (though I should have guessed), (most of the time I hear: R. Paul supports, this or that, but I don't hear the reason behind it..I am becoming more a Ron Paul fan EVERY day)..! I could vote for him.


32 posted on 02/20/2007 9:13:27 AM PST by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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In other words, he wants to cut and run.

One question -- Yes, or No:

Yes, or No?

33 posted on 02/20/2007 9:13:45 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: Patrick1
"Gag, Ron Paul is a member of the surrender lobby,"

You got that right!

Ron Paul is a cut and run coward.

34 posted on 02/20/2007 9:15:13 AM PST by lormand (Michael Wiener - the tough talking populist moron, who claims to be a Conservative)
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To: MeanWestTexan

You're right. Paul knows better. He knew back in 2002 that starry-eyed predictions that Iraqis would embrace liberty and democracy, that the war "would pay for itself" via Iraqi oil, that the other dominoes would soon fall for liberty, etc. were nonsense. He knew that this would be a ntion-building, Wilsonian quagmire, long before others did.


35 posted on 02/20/2007 9:15:29 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: capt. norm; Phlap
One question -- Yes, or No:

Yes, or No?

36 posted on 02/20/2007 9:15:37 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Intrigued...please add me to the GRPPL!
Thanks~

keeper


37 posted on 02/20/2007 9:15:57 AM PST by keeper53 ( "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot)
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To: lormand

See #36


38 posted on 02/20/2007 9:16:06 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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Reagan pulled the marines out of Lebanon.

And we've been paying for Reagan's greatest mistake - i.e. sending a message of capitulatory weakness to Islamists -ever since.

39 posted on 02/20/2007 9:16:08 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Then he reveals himself to be as corruptible as any member of Congress.

really?

as corrupt as duke cunningham?


40 posted on 02/20/2007 9:16:14 AM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: jd777

I think Ronald Reagan would have killed a lot more Islamists than George Bush has by now. But compared to Ron Paul, George Bush is Lincoln. Ron Paul wouldn't defend the country if the Islamists were marching down Pennsylvania Avenue.


41 posted on 02/20/2007 9:16:52 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: JSDude1
Wow I had not idea that Paul supported some of these!

The one thing Ron Paul doesn't support is our troops in harms way.M

His vote (with the Democrats) on the "non-binding resolution" was a slap in the face for the troops and very encouraging to the enemy.

Do you actually favor the resolution....or just the turn-coat who aided and abetted the bad guys?

42 posted on 02/20/2007 9:16:55 AM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: capt. norm

Ron Paul has the same position on national security as Hillary Clinton. No one who calls themselves a conservative could vote for him.


43 posted on 02/20/2007 9:17:57 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: Austin Willard Wright
You're on. Every one who wants in gets a piece of the action. I'll be reviewing this thread for supporters and signing up everyone who has asked to be on the list.

In addition, I am in regular contact with the Campaign and will be passing along info regarding the State Campaign chairs you can contact as soon as they become available.

44 posted on 02/20/2007 9:18:14 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
a Government dominated by convicted Islamic Terrorists

Yawn.

Which convicted terrorists from the Embassy bombings are currently serving in the Iraqi Parliament or Administration?

Just list their names, their government position, and the charges they've been convicted of.

Thanks in advance.

45 posted on 02/20/2007 9:18:17 AM PST by wideawake
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

You are suffering from a liberal kool-aid overdose.


46 posted on 02/20/2007 9:18:58 AM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: lormand

Cutless coward=politicians. Ron Paul is a man of principle, not a politician, and thus the opposite of a gutless coward.


47 posted on 02/20/2007 9:19:10 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
You should work for national polling firms, who stack question in such a way as to get the desired response from the questioner.
48 posted on 02/20/2007 9:19:20 AM PST by lormand (Michael Wiener - the tough talking populist moron, who claims to be a Conservative)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Ron Paul is truly a decent man. However, I strongly disagree with him on his Iraq vote. I realize that a candidate cannot give you everything that I want, but -to me- he just made a mistake on the most important issue of our time.


49 posted on 02/20/2007 9:19:24 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: capt. norm; OrthodoxPresbyterian
When that SOB Ron Paul comes to my home state of Texas, he's going to get an earful from me. I along with others are going to vote that moth*****er out of office!
50 posted on 02/20/2007 9:19:41 AM PST by USMMA_83 (Tantra is my fetish ;))
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