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Senator Clinton Aligns With Bush on Immigration ...(Now you know it's BAD !)
NY Sun ^ | February 21, 2007 | RUSSELL BERMAN

Posted on 02/21/2007 5:01:41 AM PST by IrishMike

As Senator Clinton prepares to face off with many of her Democratic rivals today, she aligned herself directly with President Bush on the issue of immigration, using a campaign stop in South Florida to highlight a rare point of agreement with an administration that she criticizes at every turn.

Speaking to about 300 community leaders in an area with a large immigrant population, Mrs. Clinton staked out a centrist position on the hot-button topic, saying she supported a "pathway to legalization" for the nation's 11 million to 12 million estimated undocumented immigrants, but only if they waited in line and paid fines. She described her stance as "basically" what the president has proposed.

"I think, on this issue, the president is right," Mrs. Clinton said.

Immigration is one of few areas where Mr. Bush may find common ground with the Democratic Congress, but Mrs. Clinton's frank characterization was unusual in a presidential campaign in which even Republican contenders are distancing themselves from the White House on some issues.

It comes a day before the Democrats gather in Carson City, Nev., for the first candidate forum of the 2008 race. The event could yield the sharpest distinctions yet among a crowded field of hopefuls, but the candidates are not expected to meet face to face. Instead, they will take questions individually from ABC News's George Stephanopoulos, who rose to prominence as a top adviser to President Clinton when he ran for the White House in 1992. The forum will also be missing one of the early front-runners for the nomination, Senator Obama, who will be campaigning in Iowa instead.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; border; bush; clinton; clintongiuliani; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; piginapantsuit; rudy
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To: TomGuy

....very probably,Clinton 2 as President for 8 years by 2016.
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Hopefully we can circumvent this one !


21 posted on 02/21/2007 6:55:14 AM PST by IrishMike ("Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events.Small minds discuss people.")
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To: IrishMike
Please watch this thirteen minute video on Immigration and over population in the US by Roy Beck.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265&q=number

22 posted on 02/21/2007 6:59:15 AM PST by jetson
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To: jetson

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265&q=number


23 posted on 02/21/2007 7:00:13 AM PST by jetson
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To: jetson

Thanks for the link


24 posted on 02/21/2007 7:02:23 AM PST by IrishMike ("Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events.Small minds discuss people.")
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To: IrishMike

Unfortunate headline.

Psst. Don't tell slick Willie about the all woman island the Iranian ayatollahs are creating.


25 posted on 02/21/2007 7:03:41 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: spectre
The GOP should run a POTUS candidate who promises to defend our Borders, enforce existing laws and stop the insanity related to Illegal immigration.

Hunter is your man.

26 posted on 02/21/2007 7:06:31 AM PST by kabar
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To: Isabel C.
As we all know, "pathway to legalization" is just code for "amnesty". So what if illegal aliens have to pay a fine/fee? I recently renewed my driver's license and had to pay a fee. The illegal aliens will end up with what they wanted all along, and that is they will be allowed to legally stay in the U.S.

Correct it is amnesty by another name. Moreover, unless you secure the border, there will be a flood of more illegals who will be very happy to pay a fine, just like what happened in 1986.

27 posted on 02/21/2007 7:08:58 AM PST by kabar
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To: IrishMike

voters are, on the whole, morons

they don't want to be 'educated'

they don't want to be 'persuaded'

they don't want 'intellectual debate'

the majority (!) are influenced by far more simple things:

ridicule, employed by freepers and even reagan, is far more powerful. mark steyn, ann coulter, rush limbaugh are prepared to humiliate the socialists at every turn, but bush and the gop through their confusing actions undermine their support and positions constantly

simple, repetitive soundbites (its the economy, stupid) earns more votes than elite treatises on nuclear proliferation

negative portrayal of opponents (swift boat vets) burns deeply into flip-flop charlatans

aggressive battle for every news cycle prevents the ideas and positions of opponents to cement into the voters thoughts, and provides supporters in the trenches with talking points for contradiction of accusations

this is all rocket science to bush and the gop, because they have failed miserably at politics without the base doing their work. their response? betray the base!


28 posted on 02/21/2007 7:18:44 AM PST by Enduring Freedom (what does al qaeda and bush have in common? caves)
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To: IrishMike

BOHICA.


29 posted on 02/21/2007 7:22:29 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Veritas. Gravitas. Ohmygas.)
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To: jetson
And that is just the impact of LEGAL immigration under our current laws, i.e., approximately 1 million per year. In 1970 our population was 203 million, in 2000 it was 282 million, and today it is 301,222,150. By 2030 it will be 364 million and in 2050, 419 million using Bureau of the Census projection figures.

All of these ppeople need to be housed, clothed, fed etc. and they will need infrastructure such as roads, schools, hospitals, police, etc. They also consume energy. In addition to securing our borders. our entire immigration policy must be reviewed and revised. Legalizing the status of illegals currently here will allow them to bring in even more people through current chain migration policies, e.g., parents, siblings, children, etc.

30 posted on 02/21/2007 7:23:39 AM PST by kabar
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To: sgtbono2002

31 posted on 02/21/2007 7:26:02 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Veritas. Gravitas. Ohmygas.)
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To: IrishMike

Bump


32 posted on 02/21/2007 7:27:25 AM PST by A. Pole (Second hand smoking is a major cause of global warming!)
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To: The Danger is Near
With California already solidly liberal, and illegal immigrants concentrated in the key states of Texas, New York, and Florida, it won't be long before the GOP -- at least as a bastion of conseervatism-- is a distant memory

That's why we have to derail the Rinos, persuade the misled conservatives who are thinking more about victory than principle, and get a real conservative as our nominee.

While I agree that there is a political agenda at work, i.e., the Dems see illegals and the legalization of their status as a source for future votes and political power [by 2050, one-quarter of the US population will be Hispanic], this issue transcends politics. It has to do with the basic survival of this country and its values. We cannot continue to absorb and assimilate these kinds of numbers.

34 posted on 02/21/2007 7:32:55 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Thank you for replying. I watched it and allmost fell off my chair. US citizens have to watch this video. Our over populating is bad enough with our legal citizens let alone allowing a bunch of illegals to breed like flies.


35 posted on 02/21/2007 7:39:51 AM PST by jetson
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To: sgtbono2002
Pres. Bush's policy on immigration just plain sucks.

And Hillary and Rudy agree with his position.

36 posted on 02/21/2007 7:41:58 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: jetson
We have lost control. When you have 500,000 to 1 million self-selected immigrants [illegals] coming in every year plus one million legal immigrants, it doesn't take very long to change the demographics of the country. We can't continue to be the destination of the poor and uneducated of Latin America.

Whatever benefits we gain in cheap labor, we lose in terms of the costs of support required from our social systems and physical infrastructure. The politicians and business have formed a coalition to keep this going despite the dire long term consequences. If we have an economic downturn, as we surely will, the scope and breadth of the problem will become more evident.

37 posted on 02/21/2007 7:54:29 AM PST by kabar
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To: dirtboy

Most of the crapheads on the Hill agree with that position.

The whole bunch needs to be replaced.

Replaced with working men ,not rich lawyers and rich professional politicians.


38 posted on 02/21/2007 8:37:46 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

It appears the whole country had better learn to speak Spanish.


39 posted on 02/21/2007 8:40:01 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

BOHICA.
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Splain ?


40 posted on 02/21/2007 9:06:03 AM PST by IrishMike ("Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events.Small minds discuss people.")
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