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Promoting Failure - The Army gets the lead out.
National Review Online ^ | February 21, 2007 | Mackubin Thomas Owens

Posted on 02/22/2007 12:54:54 AM PST by neverdem





February 21, 2007, 9:17 a.m.

Promoting Failure
The Army gets the lead out.

By Mackubin Thomas Owens

Earlier this month, the Senate voted 83–14 to confirm Gen. George Casey as Army chief of staff. Ten of those “no” votes came from Republicans, four of whom — John McCain, John Ensign, Saxby Chambliss and Lindsey Graham — serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee (SASC). The four grilled General Casey during his confirmation hearing, forcefully taking him to task for lack of progress in Iraq during his tenure as the commander of US ground troops there.

Democratic senator Carl Levin, chairman of the committee, disagreed: “It is not fair that General Casey be tagged with failures, massive failures which were caused by the false policies, the wrong policies, the deceptions, the ignorance, the arrogance, the cockiness of civilian leaders in this administration.”

But Republican senator John E. Sununu, who is not a member of the SASC, had an answer for Levin. “There are many factors that contributed to the failure to improve the situation [in Iraq], but ultimately our military leadership has to bear some responsibility for its choices. Simply put, we shouldn’t reward a lack of success on the field of command with such an important promotion.”

This is the central issue of civil-military relations during wartime. How much responsibility for victory or defeat does a military commander bear?

In the past, it was not unusual for states to execute unsuccessful generals. The Romans did it routinely. In 1757, at the outset of the Seven Years War, the British condemned Adm. John Byng to death for failing to “do his utmost” during the Battle of Minorca.

While the United States has not executed failed commanders in the past, it has certainly relieved or cashiered them.


No one denies that General Casey is an honorable man and a noble soldier. But it appears that General Casey is suffering the fate of one of his predecessors, the late Gen. William Westmoreland. Just as Casey is being “kicked upstairs” for his perceived failure in Iraq. General Westmoreland, commander of our forces in Vietnam from 1964-1968, was promoted to Army chief of staff after his poor conduct there.

Students of the Vietnam War, including many who served in the conflict, have traditionally blamed America’s defeat on President Lyndon Johnson and his secretary of defense, Robert McNamara. But there is an emerging consensus that General Westmoreland must also be held culpable. During his command in Vietnam, he implemented a flawed operational approach to the war.

Many historians often write as if North Vietnam were always destined to win the war and the United States destined to lose it. In this view, Hanoi pursued a course of action with little regard for United States strategy. But new studies have confirmed that the North Vietnamese strategy was greatly affected by U.S. actions. The lesson here is that victory depends not on fate but on decisions made and strategies implemented.

And in Vietnam under General Westmoreland and Iraq under General Casey, those strategies failed.

Westmoreland’s operational strategy emphasized the attrition of the forces of the Peoples’ Army of Vietnam (PAVN) forces in a "war of the big battalions": multi-battalion, and sometimes even multi-division sweeps through remote jungle areas in an effort to fix and destroy the enemy with superior fire power. In so doing, he emphasized the destruction of enemy forces instead of protection of the South Vietnamese population by controlling key areas.

Unfortunately, such "search and destroy" operations were usually unsuccessful, since the enemy could usually avoid battle unless it was advantageous for him to accept it. But they were also costly to the American soldiers who conducted them and the Vietnamese civilians who were in the area. In addition, he ignored the insurgency and pushed the South Vietnamese aside.
For his part, General Casey launched a torrential offensive in al Anbar province in Iraq in late 2004, lasting well into 2005. This was intended to deprive the insurgency of its base in the Sunni Triangle and its “ratlines” — infiltration routes that run from the Syrian border into the heart of Iraq.

The operational concept was “clear and hold.” On the one hand, no force, conventional or guerrilla, can continue to fight if it is deprived of sanctuary and logistical support. Accordingly, the central goal of the U.S. strategy during this period was to destroy the ratlines following the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers. On the other hand, the key to defeating an insurgency is to provide security for the population. The first element of the strategy succeeded. But because of insufficient forces, the second part failed.

Wresting Fallujah from the jihadis in November 2004, our first great success, was critically important: Control of the town had given them the infrastructure — human and physical — necessary to maintain a high tempo of attacks against the Iraqi government and Coalition forces, especially in Baghdad.

In and of itself, the loss of Fallujah didn’t cause the insurgency to collapse, but it did deprive the rebels of an indispensable sanctuary. Absent such a sanctuary, large terrorist networks cannot easily survive, being reduced to small, hunted bands.

With Fallujah captured, the Coalition continued a high tempo of offensive operations designed to destroy the insurgent infrastructure west and northwest of Fallujah, and so shut down those ratlines. Although successful in many respects, these operations seemed like a game of “whack-a-mole”: Towns were cleared of insurgents, but because of limited manpower, the towns were not held. Insurgents returned as soon as Coalition forces moved on.

But then even the offensive stopped as training the Iraqis took center stage in the Coalition’s Iraq strategy. Of course, a well-trained Iraqi force is critical to ultimate success in Iraq. Indeed, as more Iraqi troops became available in 2005, they were able to hold some of the insurgent strongholds in Anbar Province. But this shift was accompanied by the consolidation of American forces in large “megabases” in an attempt to reduce the American “footprint” and move US troops to the “periphery” of the fight.

General Casey had finally settled on a defensive posture, enabling the insurgents to regain the initiative that had been wrested from them during the al Anbar offensive. One result of the insurgents’ regained initiative was the bombing of the Grand Mosque in Sammarah, which ignited the sectarian violence that now threatens to destroy the possibility of a united Iraq.

Unfortunately, the new disposition of American forces made it impossible for them to provide the necessary security to the Iraqi population as sectarian violence exploded in Baghdad and elsewhere.

So there is a strong case to be made against General Casey’s promotion to Army Chief of Staff. Replacing him in Iraq has permits us to shift strategies, but there is a danger that in his new position he will champion doctrines that need to evolve.

The Army is in dire need of a cultural change, of a shift from thinking primarily in terms of conventional war — at which the Army excels, but which will be less common in the foreseeable future — to adapting doctrine, training, and organization to the requirements of irregular warfare.

General Westmoreland made few changes as Army chief of staff at a time when they were desperately needed. Those changes, the true beginning of Army “transformation,” originated with his successor, Gen. Creighton Abrams. General Abrams was the only nominee for Army chief of staff since the 1930s (other than General Casey) to draw negative votes during his confirmation. We can only hope his latest successor will follow him in more ways than one.

  Mackubin Thomas Owens is an associate dean of academics and a professor of national-security affairs at the Naval War College in Newport, R.I. He is writing a history of U.S. civil-military relations.




TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 02/22/2007 12:54:56 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

One, I don't understand why Casey was offered the CofS job and two, I can't believe he took it.

From the administration's vantage point, it may have been a way to keep him on the reservation and from Casey's, a way to save face?


2 posted on 02/22/2007 1:09:13 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

We need to find a General Grant that will win the Iraqi War for us.


3 posted on 02/22/2007 1:16:14 AM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: leadpenny

for three full decades our military leadership has been heavily filtered through a "dont be mean to the enemy" program.

Those who could not buckle under and get on board with the idiot PC dronisms and dogma that sprang up in defense to the constant "American soldiers are all mass murderers" propaganda of our domestic born traitors and enemy sympathizers were forced into retirement or passed over for promotion until they were forced out.

It is more a testament to a deep down resolve and steadfastness of the personality type that tends to make a career out of military service that we have a military that can fight at all. There was even some serious effort to reduce our military to a completely non functional size during the '90s "peace dividend".

In many ways we dont even have a warfare military anymore, it is now more aligned to a lawfare type orientation.

It is well established in the subconscious of most of our nation that our military are nothing but thugs and can not be trusted to ever make decisions without a lawyer watching over their shoulder and giving permission for actions to be taken.


4 posted on 02/22/2007 1:21:17 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Aint gonna happen. Might as well hope for space aliens to descend from the heavens and kill our enemy for us.

Anyone attempting to fight this war any harder than it's been fought will be arrested, tried and spend the rest of his natural life in prison.

Our military knows full well that the enemy that stands against them in the field is no more dangerous than the enemy that dominates their own homefont.


5 posted on 02/22/2007 1:23:43 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: MinorityRepublican; Grimmy

The administration's first mistake was to fight the war on the cheap. The country should have been fully mobilized within days after 9-11, authority to draft demanded from congress, and martial law established. Had none of that been needed, the president and congress could have backed off, but our adversaries should have gotten the message they would have to fight all of us and not just our volunteer military. Instead, we got, "We've been attacked, now go shopping."


6 posted on 02/22/2007 1:41:57 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

You're working your ideas in a vacuum that just doesn't exist.

1. We have an all volunteer military. The discipline and training standards are not compatible with a conscript military.

2. We do have sufficient manpower and material to do this and any other job currently at, on or near the horizon. What we do not have is faith in our civilian population and at least half our political system. Treason has become so trendy that none dare even call it treason any more.

I'll say it again, because this is the single most overlooked and under appreciated issue going atm. Our military is the product of 3 full decades of abuse and destructive social engineering. We gave in to the stalinist and postmodernist propagandists long ago and there ain't no going back without domestic bloodshed.

No draft, no amount of gearing up, no amount of any sort of adjustment would have made any difference at all to where we are now. Our politics is dominated by traitors who openly play their treason and it is our fault and our fault alone. No one is to blame for any of this but the citizens of this country. We let the traitors infest our schools, politics and national level security organizations and didn't lift a finger to stop it and even now refuse to get up off our degenerate asses and start doing what must be done if we wish to survive.

No society in the entire record of human existence has survived while allowing open betrayal by their citizenry during a time of war.

This failure if it is a failure that you are wanting to place upon our military is only a failure by the people of this country as a whole, not the military. It is operating as it has been redesigned to operate since the last time we allowed the cowards and enemy sympathizers and openly treasonous scum to win for a foreign enemy in the '70s.

You want to see the face of who's to blame? Look in the mirror. And I see who's to blame when I look in mine. Each of us are guilty.


7 posted on 02/22/2007 1:58:28 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy
a vacuum that just doesn't exist.

Thanks, another contribution to my growing list of redundancies.

We have an all volunteer military.

Stating the obvious.

The discipline and training standards are not compatible with a conscript military.

Didja ever serve in a conscripted military?

We do have sufficient manpower and material to do this and any other job currently at, on or near the horizon.

Have you noticed how long it's taking to get and extra 21,500 troops into theater, let alone, in position to knock on doors?

No society in the entire record of human existence has survived while allowing open betrayal by their citizenry during a time of war.

Re read my reference to martial law. That would be a suspension of civil liberties.

Look, I'm no fan of FDR, but what he did after Dec 7th was a model. BTW, over 10,000,000 men were drafted. The Axis powers were forced to fight the entire US. They were forced to fight our economic and industrial might.

I believe you're flailing at windmills.

8 posted on 02/22/2007 2:18:46 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

flailing at windmills, yeah. sure'nuff probably. We'll just ignore the complete overhaul in command philosphy and orientation that occured from the late 70s through to the present.

Forget all the officers who were forced out due to not being sensitive enough to whatever priority the PC drones could dream up at the moment. Forget all the training modifications and expansions of "other than war" practices that have been folded into our military. Forget all the indoctrination and forced complaince into warfighting methodologies that can be considered sanitary and harmless enough to pass muster with our most ardent enemy sympathizers.

Yep, it's all the emperors fault. The Pres didnt make us plant victory gardens so that's where it all went wrong.

And yes, I have worked with conscript armies.

How long to get troops into theater is a logistics and transportation issue. They are arriving as scheduled. You may not like the schedule but it was created as part of the project. All the Presidential orders in the world aint gonna make airplanes fly any faster.

They are in possition to knock on doors as per their schedule to be in possition to knock on doors. Again, you may not like that schedule but I doubt that had much impact on the planning considerations.

We are not fighting a world war yet. Not in any real sense. We may well be soon and I do believe such a full scale confligration to be nearly unavoidable but we aint there yet. This is still regionally specific conflict.

Your suggestion on martial law, I'll admit I missed that one in earlier reading but that's still a pipe dream. Nothing's gonna fix what's broken now except for a full blown fight between those who still remain loyal to the US and those who've sold themselves over to our enemy, who ever that enemy may be at any time for any reason. It's gonna take much more than simply calling a suspension of civil liberties and putting national guardsmen in the streets. It's going to take a full redress of all the idiocy and corruption that's been slimed all over our legal and civil concepts of who we are and what we stand.

Even the definitions of our baseline ideals have been twisted and morphed into near complete uselessness by constant misrepresentation, propagandising, and outright decietful manipulation.

A simple case in point. How often do you hear a soldier say "we serve so they can say/do whatever they want". That is blatant bullshit. It is a necessary defensive reaction to the constant hammering of hostile propagandists just frothing at the mouth at any accusation levied against our troops, regardless of counter evidence or origin of the accusation. I never served so that my fellow citizens can freely commit treason and openly act in concert with the goals of our enemy without fear of any repercussion at all. I do not know of any soldier, sailor, airman or Marine that does or has, either. But the words must be said or hammers will fall.

Our military command structure is what's left over after all those who were deemed too insensitive or too mean or too harsh to comply with the bizarro social engineering projects that have dominated our culture for as long as any of these current crop of officers can have served.

Our military is functioning exactly as it has been redisgned to function. Overly sterile, overly cautious, overly hesitant and overly restrained. That is by design and purpose. It was a bad design and a malicious purpose but we let the PC drones get away with it for all those years.


9 posted on 02/22/2007 4:14:49 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy
Here's the point I'll leave with you, and I will leave it, because I think you're missing it and you're all over the map anyway.

We are not fighting a world war yet. Not in any real sense. We may well be soon and I do believe such a full scale confligration to be nearly unavoidable but we aint there yet. This is still regionally specific conflict.

The president could have gotten anything he wanted out of congress and the American people in the days and weeks following 9-11. Congress would have agreed with a draft bill, an emergency declaration that suspended civil rights, censorship, etc., and the mobilization of any industry as needed. Now, it would be impossible for any elected official to even suggest these things in public. We wouldn't have had to wait for another attack. When we're attacked again there will be anarchy before they'll be cooperation.

I know what I am suggesting is hindsight but I saw it at the time and I'm sure others did too.

And yes, I have worked with conscript armies.

What does that mean?

10 posted on 02/22/2007 4:38:49 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Grimmy
Also, . . .

Yep, it's all the emperors fault. The Pres didnt make us plant victory gardens so that's where it all went wrong.

. . . making lite of what is a serious issue, I don't think, is the way to go. In times of crisis the American people look for leadership. I know I did, and I was disappointed. The buck really does stop in the Oval Office.

11 posted on 02/22/2007 4:47:26 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: neverdem
The Army is in dire need of a cultural change, of a shift from thinking primarily in terms of conventional war — at which the Army excels, but which will be less common in the foreseeable future — to adapting doctrine, training, and organization to the requirements of irregular warfare.

That ossified culture is our greatest internal weakness. The Army is a politically correct war machine that is in many ways blind to it's own contradictions and failures. They promote force protection over mission accomplishment, and media-averse micromanagement over command flexibility.

This has rendered the Army-at-large practically paralyzed against the insurgency. They're stuck conducting drive-by presence patrols and sweeping large numbers of suspects into detention, most of which are released within a few days. The only true offensive arm is the upper tier SOF community. They have the flexibility to focus like a laser on their targets. It's a great capability, but a very limited, resource intensive one. It's also not proven to eliminate terrorists organizations faster than they can regenerate. This method of using the military to be a presence force, while using SOF to surgically remove terrorists was a favorite of SecDef Rumsfeld and the upper echelon commanders. It minimized the chance that the bulk of the military would have to immerse itself in murky situations, and left the terrorist hunting to the pros.

The problem is that this model doesn't work.

It's still a conventional mindset, in a land where there's no conventional enemy. The real unconventional warfare experts, the Green Berets, and their community based tactics, have been sidelined or used for combat missions. The Green Berets unconventional warfare philosophy grew out of the Philippine insurrection, where the Army learned to abandon their "cowboy and Indian" mentality, and to immerse themselves in the local culture and communities. It was awkward at first, but eventually it turned a bloody stalemate into a resounding victory.

Sadly, the U.S.Army of 2007 is far less flexible than that of 1907. They adamantly refuse to change, and will continue to fail until they do. Not to fail on the field of battle, which they will not, but fail to attain our national security goals, which, at this rate, they will.

12 posted on 02/22/2007 5:25:16 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: Grimmy
There are aspects of this problem.. The way we fight and operate that rightfully belong with the Senior Leadership both Civilian Authority and General/Admiral Grade Officers.

We appear to have around 900 Generals and Admirals total.

The Marine Corps of less than 200,000 has 200 Generals

The Army of no more than 500,000 has 6000 Colonels

Across the board we have too many Chiefs and not enough Indians...

We have so many Chiefs that they are an industry and a problem unto themselves.

Every day they churn out endless reams of reports and documents and studies and investigations, on and on..
Make work when the real work (Fighting) is placed on the shoulders of an ever decreasing numbers of men and women.

While we only have 10 Combat Divisions counting dogs and cats.

We have enough Colonels to create an additional entire separate division by themselves. Yet we only need 100 Cols for the 10 Divisions we actually have (Taht includes some "spares".

But for the sake of argument let’s leave another 900 to do staff work and fill out 10 more Divisions should they ever arrive.

That means 5000 Cols are really not required.

Send them packing retire them and don't replace there numbers from that you can replace them with
25,000 Combat Troops.

Now that we would have the troops for an addition Combat Division. We could do the same drill for Lt Cols and Majors so we could likely add 2 Full Combat Divisions to the US Army without incurring any additional personnel costs.

You can push the numbers around all you want, There just is no justification for so many Senior Officers.

Just retire 80% of the US Armies Field and General Grade officers and gain Combat Divisions.

You could trade them for 25,000 Combat Troops..

And still have more senior officers around than places to put them in all those Divisions combined.

Fair trade
13 posted on 02/22/2007 5:31:22 AM PST by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: WLR
You idea is an excellent one, and something that not enough people understand.

For one thing, most of those officer billiets are dead weight. They simply provide for resume rounding career experiences, and have no real value added to the military otherwise.

Second, the U.S. Army actually requires fewer officers than the average military. Why? Because the U.S. Army NCO Corp handles many, many fuctions that are purely officer work in many other nations. When working side by side with other militaries, as I have, they are constantly amazed at how much our NCOs are actually running things.

Retiring 2/3s of our obscenely bloated senior officer corps tomorrow and eliminating excess billets would be an excellent first step.

14 posted on 02/22/2007 5:44:37 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: neverdem
I seem to recall that the North Vietnamese didn't think Westy's operational concept was all that flawed - if he'd been allowed to implement it. But LBJ, who would only do enough not to lose [so he could wage the more important < s/o > "War on Poverty"], and the aptly named Robert "Strange" McNamara wouldn't let him. They were too busy planning individual aircraft approach runs for aircraft, and drawing up exhaustive lists of targets Westy couldn't attack and things he couldn't do.
15 posted on 02/22/2007 5:50:08 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: MinorityRepublican

We'd do better with either Hulegu, the younger Scipio, who destroyed Carthage in the Third Punic War, or Uncle Billy.


16 posted on 02/22/2007 5:51:29 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Steel Wolf; WLR

There are more generals in the Army now than there were in WWII when we had over 12,000,000 men and women in uniform.

I agree, we've created too many positions at the top, but let's not stop with the officer corps. There are hundreds if not thousands of good people holding down positions of CSM at levels all the way to CSM of the Army. If I were king for a day I'd abolish all CSM positions above the Bn. level. Okay, maybe Brigade level. Good NCOs need to be with the troops, not in an office next to the general's office.


17 posted on 02/22/2007 5:56:41 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny; neverdem; SandRat; RedRover; VaBthang4; Calpernia; rdb3; Thunder 6; Gamecock; ...
I had occasion for a short period of time during a lengthy exercise in the late 90's to regularly brief Gen Casey. So far as the man is concerned, I'd say that he was direct, organized, absolutely determined to win, and for this chaplain, the general was genuinely concerned with the spiritual state of his command. In addition to my daily report he went out of his way to ask for a spiritual moment at each of the briefings. That's to his credit. In short, I respected him, AND I liked him.

from the article:

The operational concept was “clear and hold.” On the one hand, no force, conventional or guerrilla, can continue to fight if it is deprived of sanctuary and logistical support. Accordingly, the central goal of the U.S. strategy during this period was to destroy the ratlines following the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers. On the other hand, the key to defeating an insurgency is to provide security for the population. The first element of the strategy succeeded. But because of insufficient forces, the second part failed.

1. Gen Casey was never defeated on the battlefield. His troops always overwhelmingly won any military engagement.

2. The "clear and hold" strategy is not "new" in Baghdad. It is exactly what's been happening since about 2004. It is true that if you can deny your enemy mobility and supply, then he will be defeated. Going house-to-house, block-by-block worked in Samarra and Falujah.

3. The weakness of those early "clear and hold" operations was the lack of trained Iraqi forces to operationally control those cities after the American forces departed.

4. The training of a viable Iraqi brigade or division is more than sending a bunch of troops to basic training and advanced training. If that were the case, we wouldn't need all of this command structure in our military divisions. We'd just train a bunch of guys every other year and tell them they were a division. The truth is that from Generals, Command Sergeant Majors, Senior Colonels, LTC, Maj's, Cpt's, 1SGs, etc.... we have hundreds of years of experience and an entire system, history, and tradition in place. Creating a division is far, far more than throwing a bunch of guys with M16s in the field and calling them a division.

5. The loss of experience in the Iraqi Army was the result of the early occupation of Iraq and it rests on the shoulders of those early leaders like Bremer, Rumsfeld, etc.

6. It was rational for Casey to quit the "clear and hold" strategy until the new government CREATED competent Iraqi troops to take over the areas that were cleared. It would have been ignorant to do "clear" and have no "hold." He had to await trained Iraqi troops, so he had to turn his attention to that detail. Since there are now quantities of trained Iraqi troops, and since Casey trained them, his insistence on building the BASE for the "clear hold" strategy is THE SPECIFIC REASON we can now carry out the strategy in Baghdad.

7. It was not possible to use US forces to do the "hold" part of the "clear hold" for any amount of time. Shinseki's desire for 250,000 troops would not have made it possible. The Iraqi army totals nearly 400,000 now, and it will stretch that Army to provide the quantities of troops needed to "hold" every block in every city in the Sunni Triangle. It would have required the US to have 5 divisions in Iraq continually to do the same thing. With only a 10 division Army that has world commitments elsewhere, that was an IMPOSSIBILITY unless the Congress grew the cajones to declare full mobilization and all-out war.

8. The ultimate villain here is the political establishment that wanted to fight this war on the cheap and not affect the American public. Full mobilization and activation for the duration would have required a consensus agreement on the objectives of the war and a detailed, no-holds-barred plan for winning it.

The last war we actually won was WWII. It featured full mobilization for the duration and intimate involvement of the entire nation, civilian as well as military.

God save us from wars fought on the cheap.

18 posted on 02/22/2007 7:30:07 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Steel Wolf; WLR
Sorry to be brief...tax season.

Great comments from both of you. The dead weight of senior officers HAS to be culled from the force structure.

There are plenty of Captains and Majors out there that can perform the jobs held by LTC's, COL's, and yes, GEN's. While I was still a relatively young CPT, I served in an Operations Officer position that was billeted for an LTC, and did it for almost two years.

These younger officers have the drive, motivation, and energy it will take to transition our current forces from the conventional mindset to the counterinsurgency/guerrilla mode of warfare.

Let's face it: these senior officers were Lts, CPTs and MAJs during Desert Storm (1991). Much has changed over the past 16 years, especially tactics.

Lets' face it, part deux: our federal government has become far too bloated to adjust their modus operandi to adequately respond to the GWOT. Fortunately, the conflict in Iraq has bought us time by centralizing the attention and focus of radical Islam.

Our departments of State, Defense, Treasury, etc. also need a thorough housecleaning (i.e. retirements/buyouts) to get rid of the dead weight at the top of those agencies. Instead, our politicians continue to waste their breath on nonbinding resolutions, pork, and politics.

Show me a candidate that can provide such a vision for the US, and I'll support his/her candidacy. Truthfully, I don't know if that person is Newt, Duncan, or another candidate. Of course, I would have been just as happy for the election campaign to wait a few months.

19 posted on 02/22/2007 1:58:36 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel is the Republican Joe Biden!)
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To: leadpenny

First, I owe you and others who's had to struggle through trying to make sense of my posts here an apology.

I was up way past my bed time and deep into brain fade as well as suffering a temporary despair from too much blog reading and exposure to various renditions of defeatism and weirdness.

The conscript forces I had the opportunity to train and work with were ROK forces in Asia and Norwegian and German forces in Europe.

The making lite of what is a serious issue is well and true and thank you for calling me on it. I do tend to fall off into snark when enraged or frustrated. My failure that. But I do contend that the problems we face long predate this and even Clinton's admin and are resulting from a series of compromises, both military and civil, that have aggregated into the situation we now face.

This admin did not create the hyper inflated and grossly overpowered JAG office, for example. Nor did this administration create the overtly hostile and often blatantly anti-ist media coverage of our military. These are issues that our military has had to adapt to over the preceding decades and may never really be able to recover from completely.

The emperor snark bit was in reference to how many folk in their frustration tend to give the office of the President powers that dont really exist, either in fact, or in executable form.

If, for example, the measures you advocate were put into effect, even if legal and lawful and fully vetted by our SCOTUS and ok'd by Congress, there's good chance we'd already be neck deep in open domestic civil unrest and possibly even so far as a form of civil or "revolutionary" war.

We've given far far too much ground to the marxist propagandists and postmodernist moral relevancy revisionists to take traditional measures of wartime production ramp-ups.

Yes we have problems and yes those problems desperately need addressing but we have to start with an accurate definition of the problem before any real attempts can be made.

I do see hope in this new crop of company and newly minted field grade officers though. There's some true heart soldiers being placed in commands at lower levels that may well be the turning point necessary in the decades to come. We've also proven that the old bull crap euro trash canard about Americans being weak is provably false. We've got ample evidence of our young men and women conducting themselves at levels equal to any of our heroic examples of our past.

As an example of what I mean when I say it is our fault, try this exercise.

The next time you see, read or hear of an American citizen, private or public, conducting him/her self in a manner that directly aids and abets the enemy and/or serves specifically to promote defeatism, say the word "traitor" out loud. Then consider the traditional remedy for traitors and then ask yourself why you are not following through.

No culture, society, civilization or population has survived a time of conflict while allowing its own citizens to indulge in betrayal.


20 posted on 02/22/2007 8:46:18 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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