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Gun Remark Kills Outdoorsman's Career (WP)
The Washington Post ^ | 24 FEB 07 | Blaine Harden

Posted on 02/24/2007 5:18:52 PM PST by xsrdx

SEATTLE - Modern hunters rarely become more famous than Jim Zumbo. A mustachioed, barrel-chested outdoors entrepreneur who lives in a log cabin near Yellowstone National Park, he has spent much of his life writing for prominent outdoors magazines, delivering lectures across the country and starring in cable TV shows about big-game hunting in the West.

Zumbo's fame, however, has turned to black-bordered infamy within America's gun culture -- and his multimedia success has come undone. It all happened in the past week, after he publicly criticized the use of military-style assault rifles by hunters, especially those gunning for prairie dogs.

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Looks like "exit stage left" for JZ, sponsors can't cut him loose fast enough.

Always think before you blog...

1 posted on 02/24/2007 5:18:54 PM PST by xsrdx
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To: xsrdx

I think the use of nukes would be more appropriate.


2 posted on 02/24/2007 5:21:21 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Support your local EOD Detachment)
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To: xsrdx
And this is Ted Nugent's post to the people coming down on Zumbo at Nugents Blog...

...if you don't accept his apology, get the hell away from my campfire..."

A sad day it is...

3 posted on 02/24/2007 5:22:15 PM PST by sit-rep ( http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
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To: xsrdx

Quick, where's the Clinton crocodile tear video clip?


4 posted on 02/24/2007 5:22:51 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: xsrdx
They do not want American gun owners to make a distinction between assault weapons and traditional hunting guns such as shotguns and rifles. If they did, a rift could emerge between hunters, who tend to have the most money for political contributions to gun rights causes, and assault-weapon owners, who tend to have lots of passion but less cash.

Huh?????

5 posted on 02/24/2007 5:22:59 PM PST by digger48
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To: xsrdx
Zumbo said some inane stuff and rightfully paid a price.

Al Franken's signature is on the papers by which AirAmerica ripped off a childrens' charity -- and now he's running for public office.

6 posted on 02/24/2007 5:23:33 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: xsrdx
The reaction -- from tens of thousands of owners of assault rifles across the country, from media and manufacturers rooted in the gun business, and from the National Rifle Association -- has been swift, severe and unforgiving. Despite a profuse public apology and a vow to go hunting soon with an assault weapon, Zumbo's career appears to be over.

Have you EVER read a more slanted summary of the whole incident?

His apology was halfhearted AT BEST. Frankly, I do cringe when I think of the reaction, the idea that his whole career is over. But... I think the guy was WAYYYY out of line and part of the rules of doing stupid things and being wrong is you don't get to control the consequences.

7 posted on 02/24/2007 5:24:36 PM PST by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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To: xsrdx
Good.

Zumbo deserved all he received.

We now face that worst onslaught in the history of civilization against the rights of freemen to bear arms and the final bulwark against tyrants.

We are alone.

We will make, or break, history.

Like denizens of the Titanic, Zumbo is a fool that lived in his gilded cage and thought it to be the world.
8 posted on 02/24/2007 5:26:23 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("Don't tread on me" - the motto of Patriots. "May I lick your boots?" - the motto of RINOs.)
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To: xsrdx
A very slanted article, that misses the whole reason for the anger against Zumbo.

Like a lot of hunters, he thinks the Second Amendment is about hunting. It's not.

Even in his "apology", he demonstrated that he still doesn't understand that basic fact.

Plus, there is no viable or reasonable distinction between so-called "assault weapons" (which aren't assault weapons at all - an assault weapon is a small-caliber, select fire lightweight rifle for use by paratroopers/special forces) and "ordinary" rifles. The distinctions as drawn in the law are cosmetic only.

So the real problem is that this man, despite his long career on the hunting side, has demonstrated that he still doesn't get it.

9 posted on 02/24/2007 5:26:28 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: xsrdx

Typical lefty article.

Sorry Zumbo. Have a good retirement.

The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting.


10 posted on 02/24/2007 5:30:24 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: sit-rep

That's too bad. I've always enjoyed Nugent. But ya know, maybe he'll be able to teach Zumbo a thing or two in the meantime, and maybe Zumbo will eventually figure out what he really did.


11 posted on 02/24/2007 5:30:45 PM PST by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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To: xsrdx

Mr. Zumbo and msnbc seem to be under the delusion, as many of the unwashed masses are, that the 2nd Amendment is about hunting.


12 posted on 02/24/2007 5:33:02 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: digger48
They do not want American gun owners to make a distinction between assault weapons and traditional hunting guns such as shotguns and rifles. If they did, a rift could emerge between hunters, who tend to have the most money for political contributions to gun rights causes, and assault-weapon owners, who tend to have lots of passion but less cash.

Huh?????

I guess they think there's a big enough crowd of blueblood Republicrat hunters and only a few 'assault weapons' owners (e.g. semiautomatic owners) and ne'er the two shall meet and overlap.

13 posted on 02/24/2007 5:33:15 PM PST by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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To: AnAmericanMother
It was very slanted but it was the WP.

Zumbo forgot who supported him and how it is all connected together in trying to protect gun rights. His log cabin near Yellowstone and long tenure with the Outdoorsman trade amount to an Ivory tower. He was lucky but forgot who he owed his loyalty to and had paid the price.

14 posted on 02/24/2007 5:33:29 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: xsrdx
"They do not want American gun owners to make a distinction between assault weapons and traditional hunting guns such as shotguns and rifles. If they did, a rift could emerge between hunters, who tend to have the most money for political contributions to gun rights causes, and assault-weapon owners, who tend to have lots of passion but less cash."

What a pant load. Ever see what the typical collector/enthusiast lays out in a year on his hobby? Thought not.
15 posted on 02/24/2007 5:33:38 PM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: Terriergal

Maybe...


16 posted on 02/24/2007 5:33:49 PM PST by sit-rep ( http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
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To: U S Army EOD
I think the use of nukes would be more appropriate.

Yeah but it kinda spoils the meat.

17 posted on 02/24/2007 5:34:45 PM PST by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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To: xsrdx
"He apologized all over himself, and it didn't do any good."

I think it was the word "terrorist". I don't think a prairie dog distinguishes between a .223 fired from an AR or from something Zumbo approves of.

As others have noted, the 2nd Ammendment isn't about hunting. You'd think a guy who spent his life writing about firearms would know that.

He's got the same problem that some well known entertainers are discovering. You have the right to insult me. You don't have the right to insult me with no consequences. There are actors whose movies I no longer watch, singers whose records I no longer buy, and writers I don't read. Its not a boycott, I just don't like them enough to spend my money on their products any more.

18 posted on 02/24/2007 5:34:49 PM PST by marron
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To: digger48

Which one am I since I own both?


19 posted on 02/24/2007 5:35:19 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: WorkingClassFilth

That last line is a pretty good summary, and even poetic. :-)


20 posted on 02/24/2007 5:35:41 PM PST by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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To: Terriergal

Well, gee, thanks! Three pints of good lager might have a role.


21 posted on 02/24/2007 5:37:30 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("Don't tread on me" - the motto of Patriots. "May I lick your boots?" - the motto of RINOs.)
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To: sit-rep
Maybe...

Just trying to put the most positive spin on it I can. I won't hold my breath though. :-)

22 posted on 02/24/2007 5:37:34 PM PST by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

LOL... They call me... tater salad!


23 posted on 02/24/2007 5:38:23 PM PST by Terriergal (All your church are belong to us! --- The Purpose Driven Church)
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To: digger48

Yeah. I thought that comment that assault weapon owners aren't as wealthy as hunters was pretty stupid. I'd love to get a Bushmaster for the price of a 700ADL.


24 posted on 02/24/2007 5:41:52 PM PST by Seruzawa (Marx's Das Kapital never could compete with the Sears catalog.)
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To: sit-rep; All
"And this is Ted Nugent's post to the people coming down on Zumbo at Nugents Blog...

...if you don't accept his apology, get the hell away from my campfire..."

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Zumbo...as a small child....

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25 posted on 02/24/2007 5:43:04 PM PST by musicman
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To: Terriergal
...he thinks the Second Amendment is about hunting. It's not.

Amen brother.

26 posted on 02/24/2007 5:43:15 PM PST by keat (You know who I feel bad for? Arab-Americans who truly want to get into crop-dusting.)
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To: xsrdx
I would not be surprised to hear, in a few weeks, after the immediate hoopla has died down, that Zumbo has been hired as an advisor/writer for a publication with anti-gun ties, which will then use him as a propaganda-front as exemplifying "the true face of reasonable gun owners" or some such. Or, George Soros might just hire him directly.

My point is, don't worry over his lost "career". The left will take good care of him now - he is far too valuable and useful to them to let this opportunity pass.

27 posted on 02/24/2007 5:43:26 PM PST by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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To: xsrdx
Jim Zumbo is now world famous:

Australia: Blog Entry Ruins Outdoorsman’s Career

In regards to the above Washington Post article, the author is as ignorant about firearms, and the Second Amendment, as Jim Zumbo.

The reaction -- from tens of thousands of owners of assault rifles

Wrong. Assault rifles are selective-fire. The reaction came from owners of semi-automatic rifles. Big difference.

I notice the author, Blaine Harden, also uses the terms "assault weapon" and "assault-style firearms" in his article.

Obviously, Mr. Harden has been drinking the Brady Campaign Kool-Aid.

28 posted on 02/24/2007 5:43:29 PM PST by holymoly (Molon Labe)
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To: martin_fierro

Never let that be forgotten!


29 posted on 02/24/2007 5:44:39 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: tarheelswamprat
My point is, don't worry over his lost "career". The left will take good care of him now - he is far too valuable and useful to them to let this opportunity pass.

You are correct. In addition, he'll be valuable for Algore, Hellary, JFingK and all other comers to be photographed hunting pheasants with their freely owned rifles.
30 posted on 02/24/2007 5:47:04 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("Don't tread on me" - the motto of Patriots. "May I lick your boots?" - the motto of RINOs.)
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To: driftdiver

That makes you an American!


31 posted on 02/24/2007 5:47:09 PM PST by labette ("Come,and let us reason together...")
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To: musicman

LOL...


32 posted on 02/24/2007 5:48:16 PM PST by sit-rep ( http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
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To: Terriergal
He could have said the same thing a different way and probably gotten through it, but the over the top demonization of black rifles as "terrorist rifles" pretty much slammed the door on recovery.

He combined ignorance with malice, never a recipe for a positive outcome.

33 posted on 02/24/2007 5:48:54 PM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx
Zumbo: Never bite the hand that feeds you.

Ya idiot.

34 posted on 02/24/2007 5:49:08 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: xsrdx
Zumbo went so far as to call scary-looking guns "terrorist rifles". This is part of the agitprop blitz for the upcoming AWB part II. Now we have his scalp, and there will be more.

At the time of the first AWB, in 1994:


35 posted on 02/24/2007 5:52:00 PM PST by Spirochete
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To: marron

"here are actors whose movies I no longer watch, singers whose records I no longer buy, and writers I don't read. Its not a boycott, I just don't like them enough to spend my money on their products any more."

How intolerant of you. You should support them regardless. Otherwise the blessings of socialism can't be known through them.

/sarc


36 posted on 02/24/2007 5:52:03 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: Spirochete

Post of the day!


37 posted on 02/24/2007 5:54:57 PM PST by holymoly (Molon Labe)
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To: Thumper1960

What Zumbo said was stupid and wrong but it amazes me how vicious we on the right become when someone steps off the reservation for even one split second. We attack like a pack of jackels and that person is, from that point on, dead to us. Zumbo isn't the only one this has happened to, just the latest.


38 posted on 02/24/2007 5:55:51 PM PST by Russ
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To: xsrdx

Hunting prairie dogs with assault weapons? How is that a sport?


39 posted on 02/24/2007 5:55:59 PM PST by Krankor (kROGER)
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To: martin_fierro
Al Franken's signature is on the papers by which AirAmerica ripped off a childrens' charity -- and now he's running for public office.

Most politicans kiss babies, Al picks their pockets...

40 posted on 02/24/2007 5:56:22 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: xsrdx
"America's gun culture" they use that phrase like guns are just something Americans treat like Baseball. You don't have to even own a gun to understand that there wouldn't be an America without guns.
41 posted on 02/24/2007 5:58:18 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Russ

The brady bunch used his comments as fodder almost the next day.

There was no apology until his meal ticket was in trouble.

When he apologized, it was less than half hearted. It was barely quarter hearted.

Too bad for zumbo.


42 posted on 02/24/2007 5:59:09 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: digger48
Huh?????

The "reporter's" opinion. Nothing more.

Except that it reveals how pitifully ignorant Blaine Harden is.

43 posted on 02/24/2007 6:00:22 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Krankor
Hunting prairie dogs with assault weapons?

FYI Semi-automatic rifles ("assault weapon" is a propaganda term), fire one round (bullet), and one round only, with each pull of the trigger. Just like a bolt-action or lever-action rifle.

How is that a sport?

How is it NOT sport?

It is no easier to hit a target with a semi-automatic rifle, than it is with a bolt-action or lever-action rifle.

44 posted on 02/24/2007 6:00:49 PM PST by holymoly (Molon Labe)
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To: digger48
They do not want American gun owners to make a distinction between assault weapons and traditional hunting guns such as shotguns and rifles.

What is the distinction between a traditional hunting rifle, and a Sports Utility Rifle - aka terrorist rifle (both semi-auto, chambered for .223 Remington) ?

45 posted on 02/24/2007 6:01:06 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( for those in Rio Linda, there's conservapedia)
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To: xsrdx
It all happened in the past week, after he publicly criticized the use of military-style assault rifles by hunters, especially those gunning for prairie dogs.

Getting a buck with an open-sight SKS is far more "sport" than with some "magnum" shell through a high-powered scope.

46 posted on 02/24/2007 6:01:06 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Krankor
Define "assault weapon".

< crickets >

47 posted on 02/24/2007 6:01:14 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Russ
...it amazes me how vicious we on the right become when someone steps off the reservation for even one split second.

Shut up! Go to hell! You are a traitor and your tongue should be cut out!

Aren't you glad that the 1st Amendment is understood here on FR and people are zealous in it's defense? Maybe the clarity of 2A defenders is justified...
48 posted on 02/24/2007 6:01:52 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("Don't tread on me" - the motto of Patriots. "May I lick your boots?" - the motto of RINOs.)
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To: xsrdx

Big mistake!


49 posted on 02/24/2007 6:02:28 PM PST by Pro-Bush (hater)
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To: Russ
For someone who had such a long association with firearms and who has had the ability to write clearly and with passion to associate 'scarey looking firearms' with select fire automatic weapons used by terrorists and infer the term terrorist when writing of American hunters, I expect no failings.

Period.

In the world we live in, today, I demand of others the same attention to principle I adhere to. He may have been tired when he wrote what he did. That is no excuse. That his fatigue would allow his subconscious to put into words what he had in his head reveals much of the man. There was/is a grain of himself in the blog despite his furious backpedaling.

If he's truly appalled at what he wrote, he can make amends. His trip back into the fold will be long and arduous. As well it should be. If he's unwilling to make the trip, that will be telling, as well.

50 posted on 02/24/2007 6:05:08 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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