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Foreclosure USA - US Housing Bust, Debt and Democracy Lost
The Market Oracle ^ | feb 25, 2007 | Joel S. Hirschhorn

Posted on 02/26/2007 9:53:40 AM PST by RobRoy

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This is obviously from a book written late last year but worth noticing.

It also suggests, about halfway down, why ex-texan was premature in his prediction. Who knew how creative they would be to pump "qualified" buyers into the "supply and demand" formula, inflating the balloon even more, for a bigger "pop"?

1 posted on 02/26/2007 9:53:43 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: ex-Texan

ping


2 posted on 02/26/2007 9:55:28 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: RobRoy

Fantastic Article. Thanks for posting it.


3 posted on 02/26/2007 9:56:15 AM PST by GaryMontana (islam, the Nazis of today must either be destroyed -- or the human race will perish)
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>>>People born into American citizenship or sworn into it have inherited a democracy debt – a kind of political mortgage – that requires payment, not in dollars, but in engaged and responsible citizenship, ensuring that those elected to manage the government do so in the public interest. People like Thomas Jefferson told us about the burden placed on Americans. But paying our democracy mortgage has declined over the past fifty years.<<<<

Deport 11 million illegal immigrants!

That would be 11 million less people using our gas.
The price of gas would come down.

Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the border.
When they catch an immigrant crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq
Tell him if he wants to come to America then he must serve a tour in the military.

Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it.
After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he defended this country.
He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal patriot.

This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.

If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo.


4 posted on 02/26/2007 9:59:18 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: RobRoy

The author Hirschhorn, is not mentally well.


5 posted on 02/26/2007 10:00:45 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats and Islamists, butt buddies in jihad against these United States.)
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To: RobRoy

AlL right!!!!!! Let's turn back the clock to the good old days of the Carter administration!


6 posted on 02/26/2007 10:01:22 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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"Look at the larger picture. In 1980 household debt, including mortgages, car loans and other borrowing, was $1.4 trillion. Guess what it was in 2005? It had skyrocketed some 745 percent to $11.8 trillion. In 1980 credit card debt totaled $69 billion. Guess what it was in 2005? It had mushroomed to an amazing $1.8 trillion - a 2,500 percent increase!"

Those are meaningless numbers. Without giving the new numbers with inflation adjustments and population increase adjustments those numbers are worthless.

And the bottom line of the story is that foolish people took out mortgages that they should not have.

7 posted on 02/26/2007 10:03:18 AM PST by avacado
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What killed the middle class? - massive tax increases to fund a socialist government. The middle class now pays almost 50% of their income in taxes (local, state and federal).

Serfs in the middle ages only paid from 10-33% to the local noble...

At what point between 0-100% in taxes do you become a slave?

8 posted on 02/26/2007 10:03:59 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: GaryMontana

You bet. It has so many gems. I stopped voting last year and part of the reason is that I firmly believe what summed up here in the article: "Modern day aristocrats – an apt terms considering the many political dynasties in our ruling class - maintain the charade that America is still a democracy by letting us vote."


9 posted on 02/26/2007 10:04:03 AM PST by RobRoy
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"They thought it was fixed, but it wasn't."

Foreclosure is the market's way of removing from the ranks of homeowners people who shouldn't own homes.


10 posted on 02/26/2007 10:04:07 AM PST by riverdawg
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...and to the republic for which it stands.

Guess he forgot that part from grade school.

11 posted on 02/26/2007 10:04:07 AM PST by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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We the people once owned our democracy. We elected "representatives" to run it for US

We never had a "Democracy", which the founding fathers thought of as "mob rule". We had a representative Republic. Somewhere along the line we started calling it a democracy, once it was well on it's way be to becoming a Democratic Socialist state.

Check your Constitution, no version of the word "Democracy" is in there. "Republican" is, Art V section 4 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion. (Kind of fallen down on the job, haven't they?)

Neither word is it in the Declaration of Independence.

When we were school kids, we pledged alliance to the flag "and to the *Republic* for which it stands".

12 posted on 02/26/2007 10:04:17 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: avacado

There is that, and it appears, at least to me, that the author is a finite wealth advocate. If I get more he must get less.
That being the case, how come we are not all still living in caves?


13 posted on 02/26/2007 10:05:11 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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Wal-Mart was elected corporate wage-killer-in-chief.

While this column does contain a few nuggets of wisdom and food for thought, I got the impression it was mainly a class warfare manifesto. In the end, people screw themselves with their own reckless pursuit of instant gratification and material items. I am sick of government "protecting" people from their own stupidity.

14 posted on 02/26/2007 10:05:54 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: riverdawg

Yup...pretty much. Sure, a few unlucky people who honestly had unforseeable problems may lose theirs too but at no more of a rate than usual.


15 posted on 02/26/2007 10:06:09 AM PST by RockinRight (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
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>>And the bottom line of the story is that foolish people took out mortgages that they should not have.<<

I agree. But in 1928 and 1929, foolish people took out loans for stocks that they shouldn't have. The whole world was impacted though.


16 posted on 02/26/2007 10:06:20 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: 2banana

I'm upper middle class, and my annual taxes, total, are rounded off at 18% of my income. (Actual figures from '06)

You have no idea what you are saying. But if you believe that most of us here are ignorant and illogical that's your problem.

At least make your illustrations a bit more honest and less emotionally extreme.


17 posted on 02/26/2007 10:09:49 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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LOL I read this screed twice to see what institution issued it.

Yup, folks will homes they could not afford. We were careful to buy what we could afford and now own it.

So our mortgage payments are 0% of what is earned.

Taxes, OTOH, they keep going up....

18 posted on 02/26/2007 10:09:52 AM PST by ASOC
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What a dumb article. We may all blame George W. Bush for many things, but how is it his fault, personally, that so many people who don't bother to read their mortgage applications are now having problems?


19 posted on 02/26/2007 10:10:01 AM PST by pnh102
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To: RobRoy
We the people once owned our democracy. We elected "representatives" to run it for US. Have you noticed? Somewhere along the way we lost our democracy.

It was foreclosed by wealthy and power elites that corrupted our "representatives" who literally sold us out. Our homeland was foreclosed right in plain sight. Sure, we citizens still reside in the USA, but we no longer own our democracy. We pay rent through our taxes. But we no longer have any equity. Our democracy is owned by the rich, and their partner foreign elites and governments, which is why in a strict sense it no longer is a democracy, but rather a plutocracy.

Yep. I've been sayin' this for a long time. This is why Nancy Pelosi and the Dems can give us a wage hike. Our elected reps have mortgaged us to the hilt so they can buy votes and sell America out. It's past time to clean house on BOTH sides of the aisle!!

20 posted on 02/26/2007 10:11:51 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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