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Climate Panel Recommends Global Temperature Ceiling, Carbon Tax [a global tax on greenhouse gas....]
VOA news ^

Posted on 02/27/2007 5:24:12 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Climate Panel Recommends Global Temperature Ceiling, Carbon Tax By Peter Heinlein United Nations 28 February 2007

A panel of scientists has presented the United Nations a detailed plan for combating climate change. VOA's correspondent at the U.N. Peter Heinlein reports the strategy involves reaching a global agreement on a temperature ceiling.

A group of 18 scientists from 11 countries is calling on the international community to act quickly to prevent catastrophic climate change.

In a report requested by the United Nations and partially paid for by the privately funded U.N. Foundation, the panel warns that any delay could lead to a dangerous rise in sea levels, increasingly turbulent weather, droughts and disease.

The report was issued three weeks after the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded that global warming is real and caused in large part by human activity. But unlike the IPCC report, this latest document makes policy recommendations.

Panel member John Holdren of Harvard University says the world must be mobilized immediately to avoid catastrophe. "Climate change is real, it's already happening, it's already causing harm, it's accelerating and we need to do something about it, and we need to do something about it seriously, starting now. Our specific conclusions are that if the world were to go past the point of an increase above pre-industrial temperatures greater than 2 to 2.5 degrees Celsius, we would be in a regime where the danger of intolerable and unmanageable impacts on well-being would rise very rapidly," he said.

The panel's recommendations include a series of steps to cut the rate at which temperatures are rising. Chief among them are a global agreement on an acceptable ceiling for temperature rise and finding ways of adapting to cope with the damage already done.

(Excerpt) Read more at voanews.com ...


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1 posted on 02/27/2007 5:24:14 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Temperature ceiling? Sounds o.k., but who's going to tell Mr. Sun?


2 posted on 02/27/2007 5:25:41 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Sub-Driver
I think the Sun (the source of global warming) would reject any such sanction. These people are way too full of themselves with this terraforming concept.
3 posted on 02/27/2007 5:26:41 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Sub-Driver

The socialists attack again --- TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX anything and everything. Karl Marx would be proud. We have to hand it to the liberals -- they can really create a false reality that either can be taxed or can generate money taken from the government....it is their lifeblood -- like ticks on a dog sucking the blood out of it.


4 posted on 02/27/2007 5:26:44 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Sub-Driver; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; gruffwolf; BlessedBeGod; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


Click pn POGW graphic for full GW rundown

Ping me if you find one I've missed.



VOA "H.U.A" award of the day..
5 posted on 02/27/2007 5:28:38 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Sub-Driver

My panel did a review and determined with 100% certainty there is no correlation between charging more taxes and climate change.


6 posted on 02/27/2007 5:29:06 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Sub-Driver

The climate panel can KISS MY ASS!


7 posted on 02/27/2007 5:29:19 PM PST by xrp (Republicans Message: Vote for us, we suck less than Democrats.)
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To: xcamel

What is HUA?


8 posted on 02/27/2007 5:29:25 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in New Orleans and Philly!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

"Head Up A$$"


9 posted on 02/27/2007 5:29:56 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Sub-Driver
A panel of scientists has presented the United Nations a detailed plan
for combating climate change Milking the US taxpayers out of trillions.

There, fixed it.

10 posted on 02/27/2007 5:33:38 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: xcamel

LOL!


11 posted on 02/27/2007 5:36:09 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in New Orleans and Philly!)
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To: EagleUSA
"The socialists attack again --- TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX anything and everything."

That's why the UN and environmental wackos have been pushing global warming so hard.

"Follow the money" is still good advice.

12 posted on 02/27/2007 5:36:17 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: xcamel

Why are all liberals so concerned about global warming?

Why, if Al Gore and his buddy Clinton are so concerned about global warming, why didn't they provide any leadership on the issue when they were president and VP? Global warming was talked about a lot in the 90s. Lots of talk but no action then, when these liberal icons were in positions of authority.

Why didn't Clinton push for the Kyoto protocol ratification, if he is so concerned about this? Why didn't he negotiate more on the issues?

There's lots of questions that can be asked about why Dems. don't take certain actions when they have been in charge in Washington.


13 posted on 02/27/2007 5:36:24 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Sub-Driver
Oh yea, I forgot this one.

We can start by tearing down the UN building because they're wasting energy.

14 posted on 02/27/2007 5:37:52 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Buy a chain and 2 locks for your wallet.


15 posted on 02/27/2007 5:37:58 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: rogue yam

Do any of these scientists who want to set a Temperature Ceiling have any idea where the earth's thermostat is located?

Is the horrible effects of Global Warming any worse than the horrible effects of efforts to stop it will be.?


16 posted on 02/27/2007 5:39:00 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: Sub-Driver

It's all about global government, global taxation and global regulation.

'Liberty be damned' say these people!


17 posted on 02/27/2007 5:39:07 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: EagleUSA

I wonder how they'd feel if we were to modify their little taxing scheme a bit ?

Give each country a GHG "allowance" based on GDP per capita of 1990 levels. If your GDP per capita is lower than the US, then you pay a tax until you can bring your populations's productivity up to the level of Americans.


18 posted on 02/27/2007 5:39:18 PM PST by Kellis91789
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To: Sub-Driver
"A group of 18 scientists from 11 countries is calling on the international community to act quickly to prevent catastrophic climate change financial collapse in European cabron credit market exchanges.

There, that's better.

19 posted on 02/27/2007 5:40:15 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Sub-Driver

so now everytime I fart I have to pay some tax.....DAMN


20 posted on 02/27/2007 5:41:33 PM PST by Gone_Postal (Communism works only in Heaven, where they don’t need it, and in Hell, where they’ve already got it.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I'm all for a warmer climate. It's too darn cold where I live.


21 posted on 02/27/2007 5:41:41 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Sub-Driver

UNITED STATES CUTTING GREENHOUSE GASES BETTER THAN EUROPE
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1789236/posts?page=1


22 posted on 02/27/2007 5:43:13 PM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: Sub-Driver
Climate Panel Recommends Global Temperature Ceiling, Carbon Tax [a global tax on greenhouse gas....]

Communist/socialist/marxist Panel Recommends Global Temperature Ceiling, Carbon Tax (a global tax on greenhouse gas...)

23 posted on 02/27/2007 5:43:45 PM PST by olezip
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To: Dilbert San Diego

That's because the Clinton years were like so peaceful and serene (Cue Disney music and animated characters)


24 posted on 02/27/2007 5:45:04 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: Sub-Driver

"...the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change "concluded" that global warming is real and caused in large part by human activity."

PURE BUNK. That report DID NOT "conclude" anything. You'd think these people would know better.....well, maybe not!


25 posted on 02/27/2007 5:46:53 PM PST by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: Sub-Driver

"A group of 18 scientists from 11 countries"

Wow, I am f**king convinced. 18 whole scientists.


26 posted on 02/27/2007 5:48:04 PM PST by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: listenhillary

"CUTTING GREENHOUSE GASES"

Sounds like Gone_Postal in post #20 has been doing his part "cutting greenhouse gas".


27 posted on 02/27/2007 5:50:45 PM PST by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: Sub-Driver

May I recommend 53 degrees F, average.


28 posted on 02/27/2007 5:50:52 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: rogue yam

While they are at it, they can just pass a UN resolution declaring that global warming doesn't exist and solve the whole problem.


29 posted on 02/27/2007 5:54:52 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: EagleUSA

Some guy was lecturing to a local radio talk sho host about how that an atmospheric temeprature change of just 2 degrees would cause coral to die couldn't explain how a the coral survived the many ice ages and warming cycles.


30 posted on 02/27/2007 5:57:32 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Environmental activists are calling on Mr. Ban to play a leading role in the process of negotiating a successor to the Kyoto agreement, which expires in 2012.

That name cracks me up. :)

So will this tax be paid by *all* nations? And for countries that won't pay, what happens? 100% tariffs on all goods and services from them?
31 posted on 02/27/2007 6:00:47 PM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Sub-Driver
A group of 18 scientists from 11 countries is calling on the international community to act quickly

Sounds like an info-mercial.

"Act quickly, while supplies last. Don't be disappointed."

32 posted on 02/27/2007 6:01:11 PM PST by syriacus (6 months into Truman's Korean War -- CENSORSHIP imposed; 11,000 US DEATHS; thousands more DRAFTED.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Why didn't Clinton push for the Kyoto protocol ratification, if he is so concerned about this?

I think he knew it would be suicidal for the economy and his presidency to do such a thing and I am sure that he knew that he could refuse to sign it and in a few years no one would remember.
33 posted on 02/27/2007 6:03:49 PM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Sub-Driver

*shakes head* The hubris of these folks is breathtaking! They really think that just by SAYING SO, they can control the temperature of the world?


34 posted on 02/27/2007 6:03:53 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Sub-Driver
Liberals ARE proposing to raise taxes? I was expecting this. If they weren't, it would have been entirely out of character of them. Its heartening to discover the libs we know so well are back!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

35 posted on 02/27/2007 6:07:16 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver

Purchase your carbon credits at the local distribution center, comrade!


36 posted on 02/27/2007 6:07:59 PM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: Sub-Driver

Taxing the temperature. That's the ticket. If that doesn't stop it, nothing will.

Why is my head hurting?


37 posted on 02/27/2007 6:13:10 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I have an idea. Why don't we tax people based on their individual electric usage? For example, if someone uses more electricity in one month for one home than the average American uses in a whole year, we should tax his socks off.


38 posted on 02/27/2007 6:15:34 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: P-40
Clinton knew that by his ignoring Kyoto and the rest of the issue, no one would care--and he could use it later to bash his successors if they didn't play ball with him.
39 posted on 02/27/2007 6:21:49 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: olezip

Environmental CO2 Reduction! - > Carbon Credits <-
Private Carbon Credits To Reduce CO2 Emissions

http://cgi.ebay.com/Environmental-CO2-Reduction-Carbon-Credits_W0QQitemZ250088276744QQihZ015QQcategoryZ1310QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


40 posted on 02/27/2007 6:22:18 PM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: sgtbono2002

That's what I wonder. If sending them money will alter the temperature could we send enough money to keep it in the seventies all year.


41 posted on 02/27/2007 6:24:52 PM PST by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days.)
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To: metmom

I have an even better idea, let's tax the enviros based on the accuracy of their predictions. If the sea level rises less than they predict, make them pay x number of $ for every .1 millimeter they miss their target. Or pay for each .1 degree C they fall under their warming projection each year.


42 posted on 02/27/2007 6:26:25 PM PST by foghornleghorn
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To: rogue yam

The socialists think they can regulate anything. That's why the USSR failed. Democrats (socialists) would have been right at home in the former USSR.


43 posted on 02/27/2007 6:28:12 PM PST by pleikumud
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To: syriacus

I use to live in Detroit and my first indicator that someone was trying to con me out of some money was that they needed it right away before I had a chance to ask any questions.
Same here. This nothing but a collosal con game.


44 posted on 02/27/2007 6:28:35 PM PST by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days.)
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To: Sub-Driver
That's it! We'll tax the weather!

I guess George Harrison's song was a bit ahead of it's time,and not that far fetched after all.
45 posted on 02/27/2007 6:28:54 PM PST by 4yearlurker ("Nothing is true,and everything is permitted"--7 th Satanic vow. Sounds like Liberalism!)
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To: EagleUSA
Tax his land, tax his wage,
Tax his bed in which he lays.
Tax his tractor, tax his mule,
Teach him taxes is the rule.

Tax his cow, tax his goat,
Tax his pants, tax his coat.
Tax his ties, tax his shirts,
Tax his work, tax his dirt.

Tax his chew, tax his smoke,
Teach him taxes are no joke.
Tax his car, tax his grass,
Tax the roads he must pass.

Tax his food, tax his drink,
Tax him if he tries to think.
Tax his sodas, tax his beers,
If he cries, tax his tears.

Tax his bills, tax his gas,
Tax his notes, tax his cash.
Tax him good and let him know
That after taxes, he has no dough.

If he hollers, tax him more,
Tax him until he's good and sore.
Tax his coffin, tax his grave,
Tax the sod in which he lays.

Put these words upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove me to my doom!"
And when he's gone, we won't relax,
We'll still be after the inheritance tax.

And when the job is finally done
Tax that evil, evil sun

46 posted on 02/27/2007 6:33:38 PM PST by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Always Right

"My panel did a review and determined with 100% certainty there is no correlation between charging more taxes and climate change."

Ok, So I am the US. I say, I will pay the 10 billion and continue to pump out emissions. Who gets the money and how will it change global warming?

I have a better idea. Let's drill ANWR using a cleaner and more efficient footprint, let's dig for coal with a cleaner and more efficient footprint and then let's shut down China's coal mines and Russia's oil fields.

That should do it and the money the Chinese and Russians pay us can go into stockholder equity.


47 posted on 02/27/2007 6:41:53 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha . . . . . . . these people spew this crap like it was actually serious!!!


48 posted on 02/27/2007 6:50:03 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Who keeps track of the global temperature?

The same people who signed this report.

Sorry, it is a big scam. Temperatures in the 1930s were higher than today. But no one actually knows that since the global temperature monitors keep changing all of the historical records.


49 posted on 02/27/2007 6:54:04 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: hophead
18 whole scientists.

And not a single brain between them.

50 posted on 02/27/2007 7:15:26 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08 * Duncan Hunter for President in '08)
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