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'Complicated' statements from Romney, Giuliani on abortion rights are 'welcome,' opinion piece says
News Medical.net ^ | 2/28/07 | staff

Posted on 02/28/2007 7:21:21 AM PST by pissant

Although it is "easy to hoot with derision" at the "awfully complicated positions" on abortion rights taken by former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (R) and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R), the two possible Republican presidential candidates "make sense" when listened to "with a decent sympathy," Ann Althouse, a law professor at the University of Wisconsin, writes in a New York Times opinion piece (Althouse, New York Times, 2/24). Giuliani, who supports abortion rights, in recent talks with conservative media outlets and voters in South Carolina said he would appoint "strict constructionist" judges to the Supreme Court.

He in a recent interview with Sean Hannity of Fox News also said that a law (S 3) being reviewed by the Supreme Court that bans so-called "partial-birth abortion" should be upheld and that he supports parental notification requirements for minors seeking abortion with a judicial bypass provision.

Since Romney first ran for U.S. Senate in 1994, he has acknowledged that his position on abortion has changed from "proudly" supporting abortion rights to saying that he would "like to see" Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court ruling that effectively barred state abortion bans, overturned.

Romney in 2004 said that when he studied human embryonic stem cell research, he experienced an "awakening that led him to the conclusion that 'the sanctity of life had been cheapened' by the Roe decision" (Kaiser Daily Women's Health Policy Report, 2/13).

Romney while governor "took an admirably limited view of executive power and acknowledged the independence of the legal system," and Giuliani "respects the distinctive work of judges and the separate role of the state legislatures," according to Althouse.

"To represent what the country as a whole thinks, the president ought to take account of the deep beliefs Americans have about both reproductive freedom and the value of unborn life," Althouse writes.

She concludes that people should have "patience" in what Romney and Giuliani are saying but should not be "naive" because the next president will appoint judges who will bring "a version of humanity that will express something of the president's cast of mind" (New York Times, 2/24).


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To: pissant

We're preparing to get dumped on tomorrow. I hear we might get 10-inches or so. We got 14" last Saturday and Sunday. It's not too cold and the sun is out so that makes it bearable. Spring is just around the corner!


41 posted on 02/28/2007 8:55:33 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: Peach

You are dreaming if you believe that crap.


42 posted on 02/28/2007 8:56:31 AM PST by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: pissant

I just had tea this morning with an evangelical and she's rooting for Rudy.

And now how about answering my question? If you wish to ping me to articles you find amusing, I shall ping you to articles that support Rudy. Instead, I suggest you just keep me off your ping list, but that's entirely up to you.


43 posted on 02/28/2007 9:00:11 AM PST by Peach
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To: Peach

I was pinging you to a particular post. You know I haven't been pinging you to these things regularly, and I don't intend to start. But by all means if there is something interesting in the Rudy posts you would like me to see, do ping me. I don't mind. :o)


44 posted on 02/28/2007 9:02:50 AM PST by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Peach

BTW, I'm guessing your friend knows very little about Hunter or all the liberal skeletons in Rudy's closet.


45 posted on 02/28/2007 9:06:02 AM PST by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: rabidralph

I love winter. My absolute favorite season.


46 posted on 02/28/2007 9:06:34 AM PST by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: pissant

Okay, that's fine then. I don't want to get snarky with you, but last night we witnessed an abuse of the Rudy ping list by someone who shall not be named and it was juvenile taunting in the extreme and I didn't think you would engage in that.

Take care.


47 posted on 02/28/2007 9:06:43 AM PST by Peach
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To: Peach

I think you know I would not do that. And I never consider you snarky, even when you are. ;o)


48 posted on 02/28/2007 9:08:21 AM PST by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: pissant

My friend the evangelical knew all about Rudy; she even knew about how he booted Arafat out of a concert hall. I just mentioned his name and asked how she felt about him and she literally clapped her hands and started talking about him and I would say knew as much about his positions as the average freeper.

I did think to ask her about Hunter and she said she wasn't terribly impressed although he seemed like a very nice person. She is one of the few people I've asked who at least knew who he is.


49 posted on 02/28/2007 9:09:29 AM PST by Peach
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To: pissant

LOL. Thank you, pissant, for thinking better of me than I deserve :-)


50 posted on 02/28/2007 9:12:37 AM PST by Peach
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To: Peach; Jim Robinson
When you snark someone, have the courtesy to ping him.

I don't think most evangelicals know the extent of Rudy's pro-abortion beliefs. Their acceptance may well disappear under a clinton goon squad and media campaign to expose it to religious conservatives.

51 posted on 02/28/2007 9:15:40 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

White evangelical Protestants now clearly favor Rudy Giuliani over Sen. John McCain, "despite his support of abortion rights and gay rights, two issues of great importance to religious conservatives."

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1792708/posts

As to pinging someone when I reference them, the rules haven't been enforced here for some time (i.e., spam and posting of partial birth abortion pictures) so I don't think I'll follow that particular rule, thanks anyway.


52 posted on 02/28/2007 9:18:27 AM PST by Peach
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To: Peach

Even I would favor Rudy over McPain.


53 posted on 02/28/2007 9:21:22 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: pissant
I prefer summer. Although winters up here haven't been too bad the two years I've been here.

On another matter, I hope FReepers can be mature adults, once the Primary season is over, and support each other and the Republican nominee, whoever he is. LOL!

54 posted on 02/28/2007 9:29:13 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

My thesis is that a Rudy nomination will destroy the party. But hey, the GOP can do what it wants, its a private organization.

I'm trying to prevent that scenario.


55 posted on 02/28/2007 9:33:51 AM PST by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: BenLurkin
Exhibit "A" in the case against the NYT and liberalism. Actually no. I've been a FReeper longer than a guest on her blog, but Ann is a moderate Democrat. One of the few sane ones left. No, I don't understand why she still subscibes/writes for the NYTs, but she's not indicative of whats wrong with that rag. If anything, the Left V Right debate would be better served if more Dems like her participated.
56 posted on 02/28/2007 9:58:44 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Fenris6
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57 posted on 02/28/2007 9:03:07 PM PST by unsycophant
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