Posted on 03/02/2007 8:40:17 AM PST by areafiftyone
All day today we are covering speakers and panels at the 34th Annual Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, DC. This morning, we'll hear from Republican presidential hopeful former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. He will be followed by Reps. Scott Garrett (NJ), Tom Tancredo (CO), and others.
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I have done no such thing. I'll tell you what --- post to others and please ignore me.
LOL!
You are a real piece of work
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You tell us. How do liberals think, Sunsong?
But if you want me to not post to you, no problem. Please reciprocrate, however.
As I was telling Luis a few weeks ago, I haven't decided if I would vote for Rudy or join the Hari Krishnas.
Well, the Hari Krishna's are definitly more conservative than Rudy. Pick your poison.
Gitty Up!
Could I address a question to you about how the fight should be waged. As an anti-Rudy who has addressed and won’t support the attacks made, particularly graphically, against Rudy supporters.
Since you mention the 2nd amendment, let’s use that as an example, it’s less controversial here, and a clear Rudy loser. I should note there have been a couple threads on which there were quite rational conversations, I don’t have the links handy, but maybe someone (or me later) will post them because that’s a better case for a factual discussion.
Rudy has bragged about taking 70,000 “guns” off the streets of NY. At least 30,000 of those were from newly minted “Rudy criminals”, law abiding citizens with concealed carry permits, which were revoked, making them criminals unless they surrendered their handguns. My guess the lucky ones who had the option of taking them to their summer home in the Hamptons kept their permits.
I’m not a photoshop person, if I was, how should I display this graphically?
Option 1, a picture of Rudy speaking, bragging about confiscating 30,000 handguns from law abiding citizens. Perhaps with commentary. I can support that.
Option 2, a pic similar to Elian being kidnapped, Rudy, jack booted thug, dressed in swat gear, grabbing guns from a citizen’s home (I can support the gungrabber charge) while kicking little children to the ground, as an accomplice (Kerrick?) molests the lady of the house.
Some people would like #2, I see it’s equivalent here every day.
Gun ownership is an important issue in America.
It’s one I think worth voting on. Many people agree with me.
The GOA has 30,000 members, a significant number.
The NRA, I’m a life member, 4,000,000, hopefully growing. Always in the top 5 lobbying groups.
Gunowners in America, estimated at 80,000,000 plus.
Option 2 might appeal to the GOA and some of the NRA members, and I’ll kick the number to 5,000,000 to include other gun owning groups. And I’ll assume option 2 will appeal to all of them.
Of course they’re probably on our side already.
My question is, not that we have 5,000,000 potential voters who recognize Rudy isn’t a gungrabber, how do we approach the other 95,000,000.
I would suggest option 2 isn’t the way to do it.
Anecdotal only. I don’t have polls, and I’m not going to pull out quotations about honey, sugar, vinegar, etc.
But I think it’s a mistake.
There isn't a dime's worth of political difference, other than a political label, between Rooty and Ted Kennedy.
Well, I guess Rooty hasn't drowned a staffer.
They think they need a rule or law for every behavior. If they are not specifically told what to do - then they have no idea how to act.
The fact of the matter is FR does very little to push anything in the real world, though lately it does seem to do well at pushing against each other. Personally, I have normally found FR to be informative and educational over the years. Though there has always been an upper crust of activists here (and a lower one using conservative hot buttons to get our $$'s), there are too many people happily typing away and not getting involved in local politics. Even the events of the past that would seem to show FR as making a real-world impact, including Sore-Loserman, the CBS Forgeries, etc., most likely would have evolved out of the Blogosphere. It's nice to have a community of like-minds (even somewhat like-minds) to come and have a cordial debate of current events from the perspective of the right. Those days are most likely gone. I won't wax poetic :-)
Well, if Rudy is conservative what do we call Hunter and Gingrich? Oh, that's right - extremists. Or at least that's what they seem to be called on a number of these threads.
The fact of the matter is that "liberal" is probably too strong a term, but a center-left accurately describes his position.
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I see. Well, I defer to your inside experience.
I posted a Hare Krishna-type chant for those opposed to Rudy:
"Rudy Rino, Rudy Rino, Rino Rino, Rudy Rudy"
"Rudy Liberal, Rudy Liberal, Liberal Liberal, Rudy Rudy"
So you can start your own cult. Much more profitable for you personally if you do that instead of joining the HK.
The above is all meant in good fun.
I would wager to bet that most posters on FR are Monday morning quarterbacks, keyboard warriors, and not the defenders of liberty they claim to be. In the scheme of things FR has not swayed any elected official.
That's the problem. He IS a gun grabber. By any definition.
Since the antiRudys were channeling Barbara Olson in her grave yesterday, disrespectfully, but who cares, that doesn't fit.
It's cute though, were it not for yesterdays thread.
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