Skip to comments.Rudy Giuliani: The Knight and ‘The Queen’ (11/28/2001)
Posted on 03/02/2007 5:17:19 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
Rudy Giuliani: The Knight and The Queen
According to The London Times, New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani gives kisses before he leaves every morning, but to neither his estranged wife, nor his girlfriend. Instead, says The Times, Sir Rudy gives a peck on the cheek to the two homosexual men hes living with.
We always get a little kiss, its cute, says wealthy car dealer Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June. When Giuliani was recently knighted, Koeppel tells The Times that he told Sir Rudy to call him Queen Howard. Koeppel (63) and his homosexual lover Mark Hsiao (41) have been comforting Giuliani, and trying to make him laugh, in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.
On the way to a recent fundraising dinner for the pro-homosexual state lobby group, The Empire State Pride Agenda (ESPA), Koeppel ribbed Giuliani by saying that if the ESPA was able to raise $100,000 donation for the homosexual victims of the September 11 attacks, Giuliani should agree to appear on Showtimes controversial Queer as Folk dressed in drag. Surprisingly, Giuliani agreed.
Marty Algaze of Gay Mens Health Crisis once summed up Queer as Folk a show that touts graphic sexual activity as one of its biggest draws as one that would shock a lot of people. Showtimes Queer as Folk was inspired by the original series in Britain, which featured a storyline in which a 29-year-old man has a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy.
The propensity to shock people is not new to Giuliani, who likes to dress in womens clothes as a stage act, and even did so once at a Pride Agenda fund-raiser.
According to the Times, Giuliani has attended every gay pride parade in New York during his eight years as mayor. In 1992, during his first run for mayor, Giuliani took part in a homosexual pride parade that included a contingent of pedophile activists marching behind a banner for NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love
..yes we do thankfully
But remember what happened to Drudge and others who floated stories about the Clintons--through lawsuits, they tried to bury them IIRC...
Rudy is a member of StonewallVets. Look at the last paragraph of this below to see NAMBLA.
Prominent Supporters - Rudy is here:
STONEWALL Veterans' Association
Spirit of Stonewall and NAMBLA???
Spirit of Stonewall
by Bob Chatelle
[From the PIC Newsletter June 1994, Volume II, issue iv]
I missed my opportunity to be arrested at the Stonewall riots in 1969 by less than a week. In less than a month, I may get a second chance to see the inside of a New York City jail.
On June 21, 1969, I was in Greenwich Village. I then worked for a small Boston computer consulting firm and I was in New York on business--we had a contract with New York University. I was accompanied on this trip by a fellow employee who was also a gay man. Indeed the president of that company was gay. But we all understood the absolute necessity of being firmly in the closet, both within the office and without.
That night, my friend and I were wandering about in our business uniforms when he suggested we go to a club he'd heard about called the Stonewall Inn. The doorman looked suspiciously at our attire, and we were told we could enter only if we were the guests of a "member." We went elsewhere. We weren't surprised at this treatment. It was an election year and soi disant "liberal" John Lindsay was running for reelection and was giving the gay bars a hard time. ("Liberals" were more open about their homophobia back then.)
Nine days later, back at our office in Boston, my friend slipped into my cubicle and surreptitiously showed me the New York Times account of the Stonewall riot. Neither of us new what to make of it. The event was little talked about afterwards in my circle of gay male friends. Most who had any opinion expressed disapproval about that sort of public acting up. We didn't want straight people to think that gays didn't know how to behave. Many of us, I suspect, harbored a secret admiration for those who had gotten fed up and let their anger loose. But had my friend and I been there on June 28, we would've fled when things got "out of hand." Our gay company president, after all, would've been mortified if we'd been arrested at a brawl at a gay bar.
I'd been looking forward to marching in the Stonewall 25 parade this June, and at one time I was even interested in trying to organize an NWU contingent. But, unfortunately, the organizing committee of Stonewall 25 is dominated by those intent on imposing political censorship. To march in the parade, groups must take the equivalent of a loyalty oath. They must pledge their support for age-of-consent laws. Any group that favors the abolition of these laws has been denied permission to march. The obvious intent of this ruling is to keep the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) out of the parade, presumably from a desire to avoid bad publicity. But it galls me that people are being excluded not for what they do but for what they think. The Stonewall 25 Committee is arrogant to banish people not for breaking the law but rather for advocating using the democratic process to change the law.
I don't have a firm personal position on age-of-consent laws, and this is certainly something on which the NWU should take no stand. I consider child (or for that matter, adult) abuse--sexual, physical or emotional--to be a moral evil. But I've seen no evidence that age-of-consent laws are an effective or appropriate means of preventing or punishing such abuse. In any case, this is certainly a matter about which reasonable people can differ.
Several of us who are appalled by the political censorship imposed by the Stonewall 25 Committee have formed a group called Spirit of Stonewall (SOS). We include Mattachine founder Harry Hay, Gayle Rubin, Allen Ginsburg, and NWU member Pat Califia. And playwright Jim D'Entremont, spokesperson for the Boston Coalition for Freedom of Expression and my life partner, whom I met on July 18, 1970, less than a month after the first anniversary of Stonewall.
I am not a brave person and I know that when NAMBLA marches, spectators sometimes hurl more than invective in their direction. And if the organizers of Stonewall 25 are determined to exclude us, I might end up in jail. I was not willing to go to jail in defense of my beliefs in June of 1969. In June of 1994, I'm proud to say that I have changed. Hope to see you on the 26th.
We always get a little kiss, its cute, says wealthy car dealer Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June."
Really wierd stuff that won't reflect well on Guiliani.
I'm with you. The more these folk go on about the evils of homosexuality, the closer they seem to Spanish Inquisitors. I remember watching Uncle Milty as various characters, many female, when I was a kid. Even my mom joined in the fun watching, and she was about as straight-laced as they come. Nobody's going to elect someone with the image of "American Gothic," which appears to be what appeals to the anti-Rudy folk here.
The link says member, not advertise.
It was at the bottom of the page I copied and pasted it.
Lord help us if we're reduced to that.
And we used to b!^@# about Clinton habits.
It`s funny, because a gay I use to work with 10 odd years ago use to always say Rudy was gay and it really use to tick me off as Rudy was my hero. Rudy was cleaning up the garbage in NYC, kicking liberals in the arse, getting rid of all the bums and pervert shops, but this gay I use to work with would always insist Rudy was a hypocrite as he was mano e mano. Now it looks like he wasn`t lying. Unreal, and you know what ticks me off even more, is all this does is help Hellary. These Clintons are heading right back into the WH!
Generally true, but not entirely. There is certainly no evidence that he made repentance a condition of his love, and I doubt very much he would have posted pictures of his fellow Christians in drag on the Internet for the purpose of mocking them.
I don't know what to say about this. People do goof off at times but.....I would like to ask, would Rudy supportors be as tolerant of ALL of this in another candidate.
If there is text inviting advertisers, I'm not disputing that.
What I'm trying to clarify is Rudy is a MEMBER.
Now, keep that in mind and go back and read the Spirit of Stonewall editorial at post 53 that discusses the dispute about NAMBLA marching then read the last paragraph of the posted article again about NAMBLA marching.
S.V.A. Honorary Members (STONEWALL Veterans' Association)
(all 14 are supportive, considered and voted upon)
Liz J. Abzug, Rebuild Our Town Downtown, Co-Chair
N.Y.C. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg
N.Y.C. Councilmember James E. (Jed) Davis, In Memorium
Congressmember Geraldine A. Ferraro
Borough President C. Virginia Fields
America's Mayor Rudy W. Giuliani
B. Thomas Golisano, Paychex, President
N.Y.C. Public Advocate Betsy F. Gotbaum
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
Councilmember Margarita L. Lopez
Martha Reeves, Motown Singer & Detroit Councilwoman
N.Y.S. Attorney General Eliot L. Spitzer
Steven L. Wesler, R.D.P. Group, President
N.Y.S. Assemblymember Keith L.Wright
This country won't elect a man in drag as President of the United States of America. Ain't gonna happen.
With that, I'll call it a night and pop in the cd of The Day the Earth Stood Still. 'Night.
"There is certainly no evidence that he made repentance a condition of his love"
Rudy will not get the nomination. I'm not even worried.
We have a year to vet him. That has barely started.
NAMBLA is part of Stonewall. That is why the committee members had to vote to let them march with their own banner.
Who else is there though? I feel like crying lol! Hellary has been literally campaigning for the last 7 years, meanwhile Repubs have yet to even get off their arses!! I mean daaamn man, here we are one year away and I still don`t know who we got! Mitt? He hasn`t been doing anything to promote himself. He`s a complete unknown as far as he rest of the country is concerned. Obama Usama Barack Hussien or whatever his name is, is more known than that guy. Like Newt says, the only way Repubs will win is to get another Reagan, someone who can speak his arse off. Freggin` Guliani lisps and now this article makes him come across as an even bigger geyboy. Damn man, this country can`t take Hellary as President. It`s going to completely be the final nail. Well I guess all good things never last long, not even the founding fathers expected it to last as long as it did.
Have you seen the ad where the guys all follow the leader and jump off the cliff?
Reminds me of some 'bots aroud here. Its not too late though. They can come to their senses before its too late.
"Why not? Fifty years ago, this played in Peoria:"
""(That's Milton Berle -- "Uncle Milty." "Mr. Television""
Yeah, but not Mr. President
...which is a matter for God to judge, not you. Let he who is without sin and all that....
I doubt very much that Christ considers the posting of these photos for the purpose of sliming him to be setting much of a righteous standard, either.
Good post?? It was gibberish!
This is disgusting ... and if true, it is likely the means by which empress hillary intended to destroy him in the general election, and further proof of what I've suspected, that her goons would love to have Rudy as their opponent for Nov '08.
Empress Hillary is affiliated with Stonewall too.
STONEWALL Veterans' Association
Prominent S.V.A. Supporters
"Jesus associated with and stayed in the homes of REPENTANT notorious sinners"
They always seem to miss that!
You asked, sincerely I hope because I'm gonna jump on it, "What happened to this nation's dignity?" The degeneracy agenda ... and Rudy is a fine example of the effects of the degeneration of our values, into tolerance so twisted that now it grants normalcy to degenerate sexual behavior, granting sexual degenerates (and you might want to think degenerate bill clinton, not Andrew Sullivan here) acceptance as just an alternate sexual identity that must be accepted and assimiltaed as part of 'our evolving culture'. Whew, sure gald I wasn't saying that but instead writing it ... that was a long sentence.
If Fred Thompson gets in the race, he wins hands down.
He would be the rock star many are looking for. And I'd be O.K. with him too.
He is to the left of Hunter, but to the right of Rudy, McCain and Romney.
I'm about to call it a night and you let me see that?
I'll have nightmares!
"This country won't elect a man in drag as President of the United States of America. Ain't gonna happen."
Can you imagine the campaign commercials that would be running against Rudy by the Clinton machine? Yet people think that he is electable! It would be one ugly campaign!
I am becoming a big fan of your common sense wisdom, Sir. Not Mr. President indeed! Too bad so few Rudy sycophants will get it.
I like Fred Thompson too but worry about dividing the conservatives. Kinda glad the three Rinos Rudy, McCain and Romney will be divided. I'd be happy with Thompson though, but love Hunter better.
Now now, call them sycophants, not bots.
And ITC, "people are like water; they seek their own level."
No, much as I admire and like Fred (he's from around here yaknow), he hasn't the proven leadership experience. Though he might be able to pull it off, he hasn't shown it yet.
I'd say Fred is a hair to the right of Bush.
Thats my impression.
Indeed, I have no standing in judging any other.
Indeed, God HAS judged.
And indeed, it is an unfaithful, unloving messenger who stifles or distorts information about God's judgment.
God does not tolerate sin.
Christ had to die so that sin could be forgiven...Christmas and Easter.
The jackass didnt run as a liberal. He had no reason to act like one through over 4 yrs of Republican governance.
I believe that whatever Guliani runs on, he will try to live up to. As opposed to Bush (no more Bushes!!!)
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