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Rudy Giuliani: The Knight and ‘The Queen’ (11/28/2001)
Concerned Women For America ^ | 11/28/2001 | Ken Ervin

Posted on 03/02/2007 5:17:19 PM PST by Ol' Sparky

Rudy Giuliani: The Knight and ‘The Queen’

According to The London Times, New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani gives kisses before he leaves every morning, but to neither his estranged wife, nor his girlfriend. Instead, says The Times, “Sir Rudy” gives a peck on the cheek to the two homosexual men he’s living with.

“We always get a little kiss, it’s cute,” says wealthy car dealer Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June. When Giuliani was recently knighted, Koeppel tells The Times that he told “Sir Rudy” to call him “Queen Howard.” Koeppel (63) and his homosexual lover Mark Hsiao (41) have been comforting Giuliani, and trying to make him laugh, in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.

On the way to a recent fundraising dinner for the pro-homosexual state lobby group, The Empire State Pride Agenda (ESPA), Koeppel ribbed Giuliani by saying that if the ESPA was able to raise $100,000 donation for the homosexual victims of the September 11 attacks, Giuliani should agree to appear on Showtime’s controversial Queer as Folk dressed in drag. Surprisingly, Giuliani agreed.

Marty Algaze of Gay Men’s Health Crisis once summed up Queer as Folk — a show that touts graphic sexual activity as one of its biggest draws — as one that would “shock a lot of people.” Showtime’s Queer as Folk was inspired by the original series in Britain, which featured a storyline in which a 29-year-old man has a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy.

The propensity to shock people is not new to Giuliani, who likes to dress in women’s clothes as a stage act, and even did so once at a Pride Agenda fund-raiser.

According to the Times, Giuliani has attended every “gay pride” parade in New York during his eight years as mayor. In 1992, during his first run for mayor, Giuliani took part in a homosexual “pride” parade that included a contingent of pedophile activists marching behind a banner for NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love

Association).

— Ken Ervin


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barf; giuliani; giulianirino; giulianitruthfile; homosexualagenda; nambla; queenrudy; rodolfo; rudolf; rudolph; rudy2008; stonewall; stonewallvets
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To: Delphinium
Don't we still have free speech for a while?

..yes we do thankfully

But remember what happened to Drudge and others who floated stories about the Clintons--through lawsuits, they tried to bury them IIRC...

51 posted on 03/02/2007 7:17:25 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: massadvj
If you remember right one of the big smears against Republicans was to out them as being possible homosexuals. The democrats know that this does not play well among Republicans.

But you haven't figured it out yet?
52 posted on 03/02/2007 7:18:14 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: OMalley

Rudy is a member of StonewallVets. Look at the last paragraph of this below to see NAMBLA.

Prominent Supporters - Rudy is here:
http://www.stonewallvets.org/prominentsupporters.htm
STONEWALL Veterans' Association

Spirit of Stonewall and NAMBLA???


http://users.rcn.com/kyp/sos.html
Spirit of Stonewall

by Bob Chatelle

[From the PIC Newsletter June 1994, Volume II, issue iv]

an excerpt

I missed my opportunity to be arrested at the Stonewall riots in 1969 by less than a week. In less than a month, I may get a second chance to see the inside of a New York City jail.

On June 21, 1969, I was in Greenwich Village. I then worked for a small Boston computer consulting firm and I was in New York on business--we had a contract with New York University. I was accompanied on this trip by a fellow employee who was also a gay man. Indeed the president of that company was gay. But we all understood the absolute necessity of being firmly in the closet, both within the office and without.

That night, my friend and I were wandering about in our business uniforms when he suggested we go to a club he'd heard about called the Stonewall Inn. The doorman looked suspiciously at our attire, and we were told we could enter only if we were the guests of a "member." We went elsewhere. We weren't surprised at this treatment. It was an election year and soi disant "liberal" John Lindsay was running for reelection and was giving the gay bars a hard time. ("Liberals" were more open about their homophobia back then.)

Nine days later, back at our office in Boston, my friend slipped into my cubicle and surreptitiously showed me the New York Times account of the Stonewall riot. Neither of us new what to make of it. The event was little talked about afterwards in my circle of gay male friends. Most who had any opinion expressed disapproval about that sort of public acting up. We didn't want straight people to think that gays didn't know how to behave. Many of us, I suspect, harbored a secret admiration for those who had gotten fed up and let their anger loose. But had my friend and I been there on June 28, we would've fled when things got "out of hand." Our gay company president, after all, would've been mortified if we'd been arrested at a brawl at a gay bar.

I'd been looking forward to marching in the Stonewall 25 parade this June, and at one time I was even interested in trying to organize an NWU contingent. But, unfortunately, the organizing committee of Stonewall 25 is dominated by those intent on imposing political censorship. To march in the parade, groups must take the equivalent of a loyalty oath. They must pledge their support for age-of-consent laws. Any group that favors the abolition of these laws has been denied permission to march. The obvious intent of this ruling is to keep the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) out of the parade, presumably from a desire to avoid bad publicity. But it galls me that people are being excluded not for what they do but for what they think. The Stonewall 25 Committee is arrogant to banish people not for breaking the law but rather for advocating using the democratic process to change the law.

I don't have a firm personal position on age-of-consent laws, and this is certainly something on which the NWU should take no stand. I consider child (or for that matter, adult) abuse--sexual, physical or emotional--to be a moral evil. But I've seen no evidence that age-of-consent laws are an effective or appropriate means of preventing or punishing such abuse. In any case, this is certainly a matter about which reasonable people can differ.

Several of us who are appalled by the political censorship imposed by the Stonewall 25 Committee have formed a group called Spirit of Stonewall (SOS). We include Mattachine founder Harry Hay, Gayle Rubin, Allen Ginsburg, and NWU member Pat Califia. And playwright Jim D'Entremont, spokesperson for the Boston Coalition for Freedom of Expression and my life partner, whom I met on July 18, 1970, less than a month after the first anniversary of Stonewall.

I am not a brave person and I know that when NAMBLA marches, spectators sometimes hurl more than invective in their direction. And if the organizers of Stonewall 25 are determined to exclude us, I might end up in jail. I was not willing to go to jail in defense of my beliefs in June of 1969. In June of 1994, I'm proud to say that I have changed. Hope to see you on the 26th.


53 posted on 03/02/2007 7:18:24 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: processing please hold
And yet, some FReepers still support him. Disgusting.

Don't you know we must reach the perverts to unite America?
54 posted on 03/02/2007 7:19:44 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Ol' Sparky
"New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani gives kisses before he leaves every morning, but to neither his estranged wife, nor his girlfriend. Instead, says The Times, “Sir Rudy” gives a peck on the cheek to the two homosexual men he’s living with.

“We always get a little kiss, it’s cute,” says wealthy car dealer Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June."

Really wierd stuff that won't reflect well on Guiliani.

55 posted on 03/02/2007 7:20:15 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: massadvj
You are doing Rudy a favor with these ridiculous insinuations, because they say a lot more about you and your level of intolerance than they do about Giuliani.

I'm with you. The more these folk go on about the evils of homosexuality, the closer they seem to Spanish Inquisitors. I remember watching Uncle Milty as various characters, many female, when I was a kid. Even my mom joined in the fun watching, and she was about as straight-laced as they come. Nobody's going to elect someone with the image of "American Gothic," which appears to be what appeals to the anti-Rudy folk here.

56 posted on 03/02/2007 7:21:12 PM PST by Spyder
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To: Calpernia
Note: 7 out of 10 campaigns who advertise with the S.V.A........ win!

Maybe in NYC, but not in the rest of America, I hope.
57 posted on 03/02/2007 7:28:32 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

The link says member, not advertise.


58 posted on 03/02/2007 7:30:32 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

It was at the bottom of the page I copied and pasted it.


59 posted on 03/02/2007 7:35:01 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: massadvj
"Jesus associated with and stayed in the homes of REPENTANT notorious sinners"
60 posted on 03/02/2007 7:35:27 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Delphinium

Lord help us if we're reduced to that.


61 posted on 03/02/2007 7:37:20 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Ol' Sparky

And we used to b!^@# about Clinton habits.


62 posted on 03/02/2007 7:38:19 PM PST by do the dhue (DEM ARE RATS!!!!!)
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To: JRochelle

It`s funny, because a gay I use to work with 10 odd years ago use to always say Rudy was gay and it really use to tick me off as Rudy was my hero. Rudy was cleaning up the garbage in NYC, kicking liberals in the arse, getting rid of all the bums and pervert shops, but this gay I use to work with would always insist Rudy was a hypocrite as he was mano e mano. Now it looks like he wasn`t lying. Unreal, and you know what ticks me off even more, is all this does is help Hellary. These Clintons are heading right back into the WH!


63 posted on 03/02/2007 7:38:41 PM PST by Screamname (Looking for a good book to read? Read "Night song of the last Tram" by Robert Douglas.)
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To: processing please hold
Lord help us if we're reduced to that.

I think the Bible clearly tells us that things will get to that, but I don't think we are there quite yet. Even when we are, I won't join.
64 posted on 03/02/2007 7:39:37 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
"Jesus associated with and stayed in the homes of REPENTANT notorious sinners"

Generally true, but not entirely. There is certainly no evidence that he made repentance a condition of his love, and I doubt very much he would have posted pictures of his fellow Christians in drag on the Internet for the purpose of mocking them.

65 posted on 03/02/2007 7:40:40 PM PST by massadvj
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To: processing please hold

I don't know what to say about this. People do goof off at times but.....I would like to ask, would Rudy supportors be as tolerant of ALL of this in another candidate.


66 posted on 03/02/2007 7:41:23 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Delphinium

If there is text inviting advertisers, I'm not disputing that.

What I'm trying to clarify is Rudy is a MEMBER.

Now, keep that in mind and go back and read the Spirit of Stonewall editorial at post 53 that discusses the dispute about NAMBLA marching then read the last paragraph of the posted article again about NAMBLA marching.



S.V.A. Honorary Members (STONEWALL Veterans' Association)
(all 14 are supportive, considered and voted upon)

Liz J. Abzug, Rebuild Our Town Downtown, Co-Chair
(www.Abzug.com)
N.Y.C. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg
(www.MikeBloomberg.com)
N.Y.C. Councilmember James E. (Jed) Davis, In Memorium
(www.Council.nyc.ny.us)
Congressmember Geraldine A. Ferraro
(www.search.Britannica.com)
Borough President C. Virginia Fields
(www.NewYorkers4Fields.com)
America's Mayor Rudy W. Giuliani
(www.GiulianiPartners.com)
B. Thomas Golisano, Paychex, President
(www.Paychex.com)
N.Y.C. Public Advocate Betsy F. Gotbaum
(www.PubAdvocate.nyc.gov)
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
(www.Riverkeeper.org)
Councilmember Margarita L. Lopez
(www.MargaritaLopez.com)
Martha Reeves, Motown Singer & Detroit Councilwoman
(www.STONEWALLvets.org/songsofStonewall-7.htm)
N.Y.S. Attorney General Eliot L. Spitzer
(www.Spitzer2006.com)
Steven L. Wesler, R.D.P. Group, President
(www.RDPgroup.com)
N.Y.S. Assemblymember Keith L.Wright
(www.WrightForTheFuture.com)


67 posted on 03/02/2007 7:41:30 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Screamname
and you know what ticks me off even more, is all this does is help Hellary. These Clintons are heading right back into the WH!

What in the world has got into you, we still have hope. This is the primary, we have some other great candidates, don't believe the nonsense about Rudy being the "Only" one.
68 posted on 03/02/2007 7:42:46 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: CindyDawg
I would like to ask, would Rudy supportors be as tolerant of ALL of this in another candidate.

This country won't elect a man in drag as President of the United States of America. Ain't gonna happen.

With that, I'll call it a night and pop in the cd of The Day the Earth Stood Still. 'Night.

69 posted on 03/02/2007 7:46:23 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: massadvj

"There is certainly no evidence that he made repentance a condition of his love"



You are absolutely correct on that--Christ's love is unconditional. However, it also is love that sets a righteous standard in the presence of which those who practice evil are ashamed. Not all here are so loving. Nor is Rudy much of a righteous standard.


70 posted on 03/02/2007 7:48:13 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Calpernia
What I'm trying to clarify is Rudy is a MEMBER.

I can see this , but can't quite understand what point you are trying to make about the dispute.

The posted article says NAMBLA marched with them in 2001? What am I missing?
71 posted on 03/02/2007 7:48:42 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Screamname

Rudy will not get the nomination. I'm not even worried.

We have a year to vet him. That has barely started.


72 posted on 03/02/2007 7:51:40 PM PST by JRochelle (SuperBowl MVP Peyton Manning is a Republican!)
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To: Delphinium

NAMBLA is part of Stonewall. That is why the committee members had to vote to let them march with their own banner.


73 posted on 03/02/2007 7:52:07 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Delphinium

Who else is there though? I feel like crying lol! Hellary has been literally campaigning for the last 7 years, meanwhile Repubs have yet to even get off their arses!! I mean daaamn man, here we are one year away and I still don`t know who we got! Mitt? He hasn`t been doing anything to promote himself. He`s a complete unknown as far as he rest of the country is concerned. Obama Usama Barack Hussien or whatever his name is, is more known than that guy. Like Newt says, the only way Repubs will win is to get another Reagan, someone who can speak his arse off. Freggin` Guliani lisps and now this article makes him come across as an even bigger geyboy. Damn man, this country can`t take Hellary as President. It`s going to completely be the final nail. Well I guess all good things never last long, not even the founding fathers expected it to last as long as it did.


74 posted on 03/02/2007 7:53:57 PM PST by Screamname (Looking for a good book to read? Read "Night song of the last Tram" by Robert Douglas.)
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To: Delphinium

LOL.

Have you seen the ad where the guys all follow the leader and jump off the cliff?

Reminds me of some 'bots aroud here. Its not too late though. They can come to their senses before its too late.


75 posted on 03/02/2007 7:54:49 PM PST by JRochelle (SuperBowl MVP Peyton Manning is a Republican!)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

"Why not? Fifty years ago, this played in Peoria:"


""(That's Milton Berle -- "Uncle Milty." "Mr. Television""

Yeah, but not Mr. President


76 posted on 03/02/2007 7:55:40 PM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter for Pres/ Ann Coulter Sec, of State))
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Nor is Rudy much of a righteous standard.

...which is a matter for God to judge, not you. Let he who is without sin and all that....

I doubt very much that Christ considers the posting of these photos for the purpose of sliming him to be setting much of a righteous standard, either.

77 posted on 03/02/2007 7:58:26 PM PST by massadvj
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To: Delphinium
On the other hand, Edwards is running isn`t he? I think that dude will do enough damage that not even Babs Streisand would vote Rat.....


78 posted on 03/02/2007 7:58:28 PM PST by Screamname (Looking for a good book to read? Read "Night song of the last Tram" by Robert Douglas.)
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To: oceanview

Good post?? It was gibberish!


79 posted on 03/02/2007 7:59:02 PM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter for Pres/ Ann Coulter Sec, of State))
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To: Calpernia
That is what I thought, and Rudy had to vote them in.

Oh well, we are just self righteous aren't we :)
80 posted on 03/02/2007 8:01:48 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Ol' Sparky; Delphinium

This is disgusting ... and if true, it is likely the means by which empress hillary intended to destroy him in the general election, and further proof of what I've suspected, that her goons would love to have Rudy as their opponent for Nov '08.


81 posted on 03/02/2007 8:02:49 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

Empress Hillary is affiliated with Stonewall too.


http://www.stonewallvets.org/prominentsupporters.htm

STONEWALL Veterans' Association

Prominent S.V.A. Supporters


82 posted on 03/02/2007 8:04:52 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Screamname
Don't despair Hunter is moving up. He is a great man and people are starting to unite behind him.

Remember our team knows how to pray. God is still in control.
83 posted on 03/02/2007 8:05:21 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: JRochelle
Its not too late though. They can come to their senses before its too late.

Some won't but enough well to make a difference. It is already happening. Hunter gaining so much ground proves that to me.

Remember what the bots said, that there was NO way because he was a total unknown with no money.

As self righteous as it may seem to some I am declaring my faith in the Lord of Hosts to help us.It is prayer that will make the big difference.
84 posted on 03/02/2007 8:10:10 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: MHGinTN
I've suspected, that her goons would love to have Rudy as their opponent for Nov '08.

They aren't as stupid as these bots here on FR.
85 posted on 03/02/2007 8:12:05 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

"Jesus associated with and stayed in the homes of REPENTANT notorious sinners"


They always seem to miss that!


86 posted on 03/02/2007 8:12:39 PM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter for Pres/ Ann Coulter Sec, of State))
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To: Finalapproach29er

You asked, sincerely I hope because I'm gonna jump on it, "What happened to this nation's dignity?" The degeneracy agenda ... and Rudy is a fine example of the effects of the degeneration of our values, into tolerance so twisted that now it grants normalcy to degenerate sexual behavior, granting sexual degenerates (and you might want to think degenerate bill clinton, not Andrew Sullivan here) acceptance as just an alternate sexual identity that must be accepted and assimiltaed as part of 'our evolving culture'. Whew, sure gald I wasn't saying that but instead writing it ... that was a long sentence.


87 posted on 03/02/2007 8:15:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Delphinium

If Fred Thompson gets in the race, he wins hands down.


He would be the rock star many are looking for. And I'd be O.K. with him too.

He is to the left of Hunter, but to the right of Rudy, McCain and Romney.


88 posted on 03/02/2007 8:15:09 PM PST by JRochelle (SuperBowl MVP Peyton Manning is a Republican!)
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To: Screamname

NO!

I'm about to call it a night and you let me see that?

I'll have nightmares!


89 posted on 03/02/2007 8:16:02 PM PST by JRochelle (SuperBowl MVP Peyton Manning is a Republican!)
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To: processing please hold

"This country won't elect a man in drag as President of the United States of America. Ain't gonna happen."

Can you imagine the campaign commercials that would be running against Rudy by the Clinton machine? Yet people think that he is electable! It would be one ugly campaign!


90 posted on 03/02/2007 8:17:45 PM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter for Pres/ Ann Coulter Sec, of State))
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To: upsdriver

I am becoming a big fan of your common sense wisdom, Sir. Not Mr. President indeed! Too bad so few Rudy sycophants will get it.


91 posted on 03/02/2007 8:18:18 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: JRochelle

I like Fred Thompson too but worry about dividing the conservatives. Kinda glad the three Rinos Rudy, McCain and Romney will be divided. I'd be happy with Thompson though, but love Hunter better.


92 posted on 03/02/2007 8:19:43 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

Now now, call them sycophants, not bots.


93 posted on 03/02/2007 8:20:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Iscool

And ITC, "people are like water; they seek their own level."


94 posted on 03/02/2007 8:20:08 PM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Delphinium
Some voters want Rudy but they don't really know who he is. The same voters don't want Duncan Hunter because they don't know who he is.

Guliani would make a horrible Republican President. There are Freepers who can't stand Bush and Bush is a right winger compared to Rudy.
Forget about Mitt. He's a lib who's lying to the conservatives.
Ron Paul wants to cut and run.
McStain has already punched a hole in his campaign rowboat.
Except for spending, Hunter appears to be a perfect candidate.
95 posted on 03/02/2007 8:21:33 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: MHGinTN
that was a long sentence.

but very well written.
96 posted on 03/02/2007 8:22:08 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: JRochelle

No, much as I admire and like Fred (he's from around here yaknow), he hasn't the proven leadership experience. Though he might be able to pull it off, he hasn't shown it yet.


97 posted on 03/02/2007 8:22:14 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Delphinium

I'd say Fred is a hair to the right of Bush.

Thats my impression.


98 posted on 03/02/2007 8:22:32 PM PST by JRochelle (SuperBowl MVP Peyton Manning is a Republican!)
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To: massadvj; wagglebee

Indeed, I have no standing in judging any other.

Indeed, God HAS judged.

And indeed, it is an unfaithful, unloving messenger who stifles or distorts information about God's judgment.

God does not tolerate sin.

Christ had to die so that sin could be forgiven...Christmas and Easter.



As there are many who see these pages, here are a couple of relevant organizations:

Exodus International is a worldwide interdenominational Christian organization called to encourage, strengthen, unify and equip Christians to minister the transforming power of the Lord Jesus Christ to those affected by homosexuality.
http://www.exodus-international.org/



Americans for Truth, led by Peter LaBarbera, is devoted exclusively to exposing and countering the homosexual agenda.
http://www.americansfortruth.com/


99 posted on 03/02/2007 8:22:59 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Ol' Sparky
So, because Bush has behaved like a liberal

The jackass didnt run as a liberal. He had no reason to act like one through over 4 yrs of Republican governance.

I believe that whatever Guliani runs on, he will try to live up to. As opposed to Bush (no more Bushes!!!)

100 posted on 03/02/2007 8:24:03 PM PST by Nonstatist
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