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Expert in Russian poisoning case is shot
NBC News ^ | March 2 2007 | Pete Williams

Posted on 03/02/2007 5:25:46 PM PST by jmc1969

Edited on 03/02/2007 6:14:16 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

FBI agents say they are assisting police in suburban Washington who are investigating the shooting of a Russian expert a man who spoke out on "Dateline NBC" last weekend and strongly suggested that remnants of the KGB were responsible for the bizarre poisoning death of Alexander Litvinenko.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kremlin; litvinenko; pauljoyal; putin; russia; russianagents
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1 posted on 03/02/2007 5:25:49 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Putin sure likes to leave no stone unturned.... ruthless bas**rd that he is......


2 posted on 03/02/2007 5:27:41 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub

I don't know. I've looked into his soul and he seems like a nice guy.


3 posted on 03/02/2007 5:29:30 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: neodad

...LOL.....wonder what GWB thinks now about his good buddy


4 posted on 03/02/2007 5:30:36 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: jmc1969

I'll say this about the Russians. They make Italian mobsters look like Girl Scouts.


5 posted on 03/02/2007 5:32:54 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: jmc1969

Pretty out of hand having it happening here in the USA now.


6 posted on 03/02/2007 5:33:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: jmc1969



This is surprising, even during the Cold War shooting people on the streets of DC was the stuff of John Lecarre' books.

During the Stalin's "consolidation", the Kemlin's FIS would kill people like Trotsky in Mexico, but not the US.


7 posted on 03/02/2007 5:33:51 PM PST by padre35 (I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The Russians make the Clintons look like pikers.


8 posted on 03/02/2007 5:34:22 PM PST by COBOL2Java ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world" - Winston Churchill on Islam)
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To: jmc1969

Putin's THUGS at it again! G** #$*# bastard, Putin, lowest form of life, piece of S**T. (I don't curse normally. Really.)


9 posted on 03/02/2007 5:34:31 PM PST by Mad Federalist
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To: jmc1969

So, the question is, what did these journalists and experts do to piss off the Clintons?


10 posted on 03/02/2007 5:35:14 PM PST by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: NorCalRepub
"you ain't seen nothin yet"

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11 posted on 03/02/2007 5:36:42 PM PST by digger48
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To: digger48

Why? What did Hillary do to Putin? :0)


12 posted on 03/02/2007 5:37:41 PM PST by COBOL2Java ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world" - Winston Churchill on Islam)
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To: jmc1969
Not dramatic enough ... he should have been poisoned. Now that would be dramatic!
13 posted on 03/02/2007 5:37:59 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: jmc1969

Very alarming. Thank you for posting this important story.

There should be much, much more concern about this case. I do not believe these deaths were accidental, and I do not think this is the end of the matter. There will be more threats and more deaths. We are not being protected by these 'security agencies' who get paid so much money.


14 posted on 03/02/2007 5:38:53 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: NonValueAdded

Read the bottom line

"In an odd twist, another person who appeared on the "Dateline" broadcast died of a heart attack last month. Reporter Daniel McGrory of the Times of London, who has written about the Litvinenko case, died Feb. 20, before the "Dateline" segment was broadcast. He was 54.

His family said he "died suddenly at home." He was a veteran British foreign correspondent who had reported from several war zones."


15 posted on 03/02/2007 5:39:10 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: neodad
"I don't know. I've looked into his soul and he seems like a nice guy."

You know, the more time goes on - the more Bush looks like a chump.

16 posted on 03/02/2007 5:39:15 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: jmc1969
Jack is hot on their track.

Seriesly somebody, some country, some agency better declare some kind of war on the Russian Kremlin. They are openly operating in the US.

17 posted on 03/02/2007 5:41:06 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: digger48

damn.....now I'll have to stick needles in my eyes


18 posted on 03/02/2007 5:43:00 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: jmc1969
Yeah, but that was a reporter. Poisoning the poison expert has panache, shows a certain degree of difficulty, sure to get a high score from the judges.
19 posted on 03/02/2007 5:43:51 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: jmc1969

Must have hit the nail on the head.


20 posted on 03/02/2007 5:44:08 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: COBOL2Java
The Russians make the Clintons look like pikers.

Ha! Line of the day!

21 posted on 03/02/2007 5:51:12 PM PST by Netizen (More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war 2,158 ea year - Center for Immigration Studies)
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To: jmc1969

Putin's hit squads are definitely out and about...


22 posted on 03/02/2007 5:51:15 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: jmc1969

Lead poisoning.


23 posted on 03/02/2007 5:54:36 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (No stinking peanut butter.)
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To: daybreakcoming
If I had any bets to make , I would say it was a contract hit gone bad, done by the Russian Mafia.

If it was KGB, our good man would be deader than an old blind country road killed skunk.

24 posted on 03/02/2007 5:54:47 PM PST by Candor7
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To: NonValueAdded

He may have been. The KGB has used poisoned projectiles before. Nothing like insurance.


25 posted on 03/02/2007 6:00:51 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (a.k.a. What a jackass!)
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To: padre35
This is surprising, even during the Cold War shooting people on the streets of DC was the stuff of John Lecarre' books.

In the late 70s, Chile's Augusto Pinochet blew up a Chilean dissident (Orlando Letellier) with a car bomb on Sheridan Circle, no more than a mile from the White House. Bush league stuff.

26 posted on 03/02/2007 6:19:26 PM PST by Alter Kaker
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To: jmc1969

I saw that show...which guy?


27 posted on 03/02/2007 6:26:59 PM PST by RDTF (They should have put down Barbarella instead of Barbaro)
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To: jmc1969
Paul Joyal
28 posted on 03/02/2007 6:38:02 PM PST by RDTF (They should have put down Barbarella instead of Barbaro)
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To: digger48

Dear Digger 48:
Please don't scare me like that right before my bedtime.


CREEPY image. Brrrgghh!!


29 posted on 03/02/2007 6:51:42 PM PST by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: neodad

#2 or #3 in the GWB retard hit parade.


30 posted on 03/02/2007 6:52:51 PM PST by Wormwood (Your Friendly Neighborhood Moderate)
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To: Alter Kaker

Re Orlando Letelier. He was a KGB/DGI (Cuban secret police) paid agent. The contents of his briefcase detailed his connections on the Hill and with communist groups in the U.S., including the red-funded Institute for Policy Studies. (See Steven Powell's "Cover Cadre" masterpiece on IPS and its staff/operations, including working with KGB agents and fronts).

I would not have wanted him killed, only exposed but the Washington Post covered up his real identity and has refused to investigate what was found in his briefcase.

Iranian American Black Muslim agents killed Iranian dissident Ali Tabatabai in Silver Spring (the killer is a major movie star in Iran). An Israeli military attache' named Allon was assassinated in or near Silver Spring.

The KGB killed Soviet defector Walter Krivitsky right here in DC in the 1940's, and a number of other people have been assassinated in the US by various leftist/Arab groups over the years. You just don't see their stories in the papers.

Several law enforcement officers and volunteer informants have been stabbed, shot at, or firebombed by American communists since the 1960's, not to mention the assassinations carried out by the Black Panthers and their successors, the Black Liberation Army, etc.

Welcome to the real world!


31 posted on 03/02/2007 6:53:51 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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True, but that wasn't a KGB/SVD thing, i notice that the Brit reporter got dead, and the American "expert" was merely "sent a message".

"Street Crime"? So that is why they will not release his condition or give any details about what may have been taken from him during the Street Crime in quite suburban Maryland?

And the cow ran away with the spoon, I gave up on fairy tales along time ago....


32 posted on 03/02/2007 6:58:12 PM PST by padre35 (I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party)
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To: jmc1969

Vlady is in da hood


33 posted on 03/02/2007 6:59:43 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: jmc1969

This sort of thing isn't the best way to persuade people that Putin didn't order Litvinenko's poisoning.


34 posted on 03/02/2007 7:10:31 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: jmc1969
dead men tell no tales

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35 posted on 03/02/2007 7:36:27 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: digger48
I'll see you and raise you one.

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Cheers!

36 posted on 03/02/2007 7:40:32 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: jmc1969

Are these guys taking lessons from the Clinton Crime Syndicate?


37 posted on 03/02/2007 8:32:59 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Candor7
I deleted part of my previous post - got too wordy - but I would not be surprised if the KGB and Russian Mafia are not intertwined. By that I don't think we can discount the tentacles of the Mafia within the KGB. I even wonder if Putin is nothing much more than a figurehead these days. Although the attempted assassination is intended to frighten into silence certain people - has the KGB ever been so brazen to publicly assassinate an American on US soil before?

Just an uneducated opinion.

38 posted on 03/02/2007 9:02:18 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: neodad

That quote was definitely not a high point for George IMHO.


39 posted on 03/02/2007 9:04:23 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: jmc1969

The Russian mobsters are fast becoming as effective as Bill Clinton.


40 posted on 03/02/2007 9:08:34 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Veritas. Gravitas. Ohmygas.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Maybe Hillary IS Putin! Has anyone seen them together?


41 posted on 03/02/2007 9:11:59 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
-would have shown real panache to have dumped the body in Marcy Park.
42 posted on 03/02/2007 9:12:37 PM PST by tioga
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To: jmc1969

I love this cloak and dagger sh!+


43 posted on 03/02/2007 9:14:08 PM PST by Porterville (Bullies love Peace and the Peaceful fight Wars.)
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To: NorCalRepub

But Vlady would never order something like this. He's a Christian! He has religious icons and a Bible in his gold-plated jet! He obviously has a heart for Jesus! And our president said he could be trusted. That's good enough for me. It seems very obvious to me that two guys might just randomly run up to Joyal, shoot him in the stomach, and run off without stealing anything. Makes all the sense in the world. < /s>


44 posted on 03/02/2007 9:15:14 PM PST by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: tioga

Those "multiple gunshot" Arkansas suicides were always marvelous.


45 posted on 03/02/2007 9:15:38 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Veritas. Gravitas. Ohmygas.)
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To: Fairview

....yup....happens all the time.....LOL


46 posted on 03/02/2007 9:17:42 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Cicero
This sort of thing isn't the best way to persuade people that Putin didn't order Litvinenko's poisoning.

No, but you must admit it is a good method to stop them from shooting their mouths off about it.

47 posted on 03/02/2007 11:11:05 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Yes, wasn't it LBJs secretary, Biily Sol Estes, who was doing some shady land deals in Texas. A US Marshal was sent to check it out, he committed suicide with a shotgun blast in the back from 10 feet away, was how LBJs coroners jury ruled it. How are they going to bury this KGB hit-story?


48 posted on 03/02/2007 11:22:17 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: Netizen; COBOL2Java
>>>The Russians make the Clintons look like pikers.<<<

Why...why, its almost Mafia-like.

49 posted on 03/03/2007 4:04:49 PM PST by HardStarboard (The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
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To: digger48

50 posted on 03/03/2007 4:59:22 PM PST by Main Street (Stuck in traffic)
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