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Brother and sister fight Germany's incest laws
The Guardian ^ | February 27, 2007

Posted on 03/02/2007 6:31:06 PM PST by DeerfieldObserver

German brother and sister are challenging the law against incest so that they can continue their relationship free from the threat of imprisonment. Patrick Stübing, an unemployed locksmith, and his sister Susan have had four children together since starting a sexual relationship in 2000. Three of the children are in foster care, and two have unspecified disabilities.

The couple, who live near Leipzig, grew up separately and only met many years later. Their supporters say they will fight until incest is no longer regarded as a criminal offence, arguing that the law is out of date. They say it harks back to the racial hygiene laws of the Third Reich and should be overturned in favour of freedom of choice and sexual determination. Detractors insist that incest should remain a social taboo, largely because of the risks linked to inbreeding and the imbalance in social relations it inevitably causes.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: eu; europe; europeanunion; genes; genetics; german; germany; ichbineinbredinner; inbred; inbreeding; incest; mutation; sibling; siblings
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Incest is legal in most European countries, but not in Germany. Strange story. The couple is very selfish because of the danger to their children.

http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/world/2007/03/02/pleitg.incestuous.love.cnn

1 posted on 03/02/2007 6:31:08 PM PST by DeerfieldObserver
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To: DeerfieldObserver

Meanwhile a German girl has been removed from her home and family because she was homeschooled.


2 posted on 03/02/2007 6:33:25 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: DeerfieldObserver
German brother and sister are challenging the law against incest so that they can continue their relationship free from the threat of imprisonment.

Coming soon to a Massachusetts near you.

3 posted on 03/02/2007 6:38:58 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: DeerfieldObserver
Losertarian Ping...

Hey the autonomist, libertarian, AynRand monkeys should be in full support of these two and their "noble" effort to be able to bone your siblings.

4 posted on 03/02/2007 6:41:12 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: DeerfieldObserver
They say it harks back to the racial hygiene laws of the Third Reich and should be overturned in favour of freedom of choice and sexual determination

Ummm....no. It dates back at least, at the very least, to the Pentateuch. Everybody, every nation and group, has some incest taboo.

5 posted on 03/02/2007 6:41:40 PM PST by Lee N. Field
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To: DeerfieldObserver

Incest laws are to protect the children from devastating birth defects that these couples will have. Spay them both or any who would do this.


6 posted on 03/02/2007 6:42:05 PM PST by YOUGOTIT (56 Supporters of al Qaeda are seated in the US Senate)
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"..Incest is not illegal in many of Germany's neighboursing countries, he said. The law was a "historical relic".

Napoleon abolished France's incest laws in 1810. ..."

Ah Ha! Now we know why the French are the way they are, Incest over a long period of time!

7 posted on 03/02/2007 6:42:28 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Gay State Conservative

The situation is a freak situation because the brother and sister were seperated at birth and didn't meet each other until he was 24.

There is an innate aversion to incest to brothers and sisters who grew up together as children.


8 posted on 03/02/2007 6:42:53 PM PST by DeerfieldObserver
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The couple... grew up separately and only met many years later.

There's an old Scottish song (Andy Stewart?) about such a situation. Now it's reality...

9 posted on 03/02/2007 6:43:33 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Bang the mum slowly.


10 posted on 03/02/2007 6:44:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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Gott im Himmel.

Das ist sehr schlecht!


11 posted on 03/02/2007 6:44:46 PM PST by bannie
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Ack! PUKE!

That brother/sister procreation thing really worked out well for the royal family of ancient Egypt, didn't it?

They were conquered by Macedonian Greeks and then wiped out by the Roman Empire.

Inbreeding does not work well.

12 posted on 03/02/2007 6:45:36 PM PST by LibKill (ENOUGH! Take the warning labels off everything and let Saint Darwin do his job.)
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"They say it harks back to the racial hygiene laws of the Third Reich "


Huh?
Being against incest means you support the Third Reich?
And here I was thinking most of the nuts were here.


13 posted on 03/02/2007 6:46:31 PM PST by ShawTaylor
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Not very smart, especially considering they are Germans. Many Germans have blond hair and blue eyes. Considering both are recessive, this suggests that Germans already sort of tend toward being inbred. This is just asking for a child with a lot of disabilities.


14 posted on 03/02/2007 6:46:42 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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Du bisht correttomundo!


15 posted on 03/02/2007 6:47:05 PM PST by JRochelle (SuperBowl MVP Peyton Manning is a Republican!)
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"The situation is a freak situation because the brother and sister were seperated at birth and didn't meet each other until he was 24."

Sort of a twist on the Oedipal complex, eh? (Not Canadian, eh just works there).

16 posted on 03/02/2007 6:48:37 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Graymatter

Ah crap, you beat me to it...

I was going to say it's all good unless they decide to homeschool their little imbeciles.


17 posted on 03/02/2007 6:48:52 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl
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To: JRochelle
Du bisht correttomundo!

Engrish, preash!

18 posted on 03/02/2007 6:49:33 PM PST by LibKill (ENOUGH! Take the warning labels off everything and let Saint Darwin do his job.)
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To: JRochelle

Donkey field mice!

;-)


19 posted on 03/02/2007 6:49:39 PM PST by bannie
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Before people get offended, South Korean are supposed to be the most homogenous (see inbred) people. Others with a lot of homogenity (lots of inbreeding) are Somalis and Icelanders.


20 posted on 03/02/2007 6:50:11 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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