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Bill Clinton Doesn't Support Attack on Iran
Associated Press ^ | Friday, March 02, 2007 | JOHN HANNA

Posted on 03/03/2007 2:02:16 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet

MANHATTAN, Kan. — Former President Bill Clinton said Friday sanctions against Iran were working better than people think and questioned whether a military strike would work to end its nuclear program. He argued that two-thirds of Iran's population wants a moderate government and that sanctions could have some influence on the nation's powerful clerics.

"We may not have to go to war, and we may not have a disaster," he told about 9,000 gathered at Kansas State University. "You need to talk to everybody before you bomb them. In other words, if you're going to fight with somebody _ I don't care what you don't have in common _ you should talk first."

The former president's comments answered audience questions following his 45-minute lecture. His remarks touched on a wide range of topics, including the need to improve health care and the economy in the United States and alleviate poverty abroad.

Officials from the United States and other major powers have been discussing imposing new sanctions against Iran over its refusal to suspend uranium enrichment. The U.N. Security Council imposed sanctions in December, but the Bush administration hasn't ruled out military action.

"We should be talking to the Iranians," Clinton said. "Attacking them is a whole different kettle of fish."

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"Attacking them is a whole different kettle of fish."

His history on dealing with al queda and terrorists stinks like a "kettle of fish."

Bill Clinton on 9/11 - "The moment it happened I knew it was Osama." "I did not have sanctions on that man, Mr. bin Laden."

1 posted on 03/03/2007 2:02:17 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Former Presidents should leave the public eye and retire to write memoirs and play with their grandchildren.

When Former Presidents meddle in successor administrations, they undermine our political system and destabilize our political equilibrium.


2 posted on 03/03/2007 2:14:12 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

["Bill Clinton doesn't support attack on Iran."]

Well, of course not, they're not Serbs.


3 posted on 03/03/2007 2:14:39 AM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Bill Clinton Doesn't Support Attack on Iran

And his opinion counts because.....
4 posted on 03/03/2007 2:16:43 AM PST by indiana_gop
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Bill Clinton Doesn't Support Attack on Iran

Nope, ol' Bubbah would support an attack on "Irene", however...

5 posted on 03/03/2007 2:20:54 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Bill Clinton Doesn't Support Attack on Iran

OK, but was that position reached with, or without an intern under his desk?
6 posted on 03/03/2007 2:20:58 AM PST by mkjessup (My mechanic said "I can't fix your brakes, so I made your horn louder" - Stephen Wright)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Former President Bill Clinton said Friday sanctions against Iran were working better than people think and questioned whether a military strike would work to end its nuclear program.

You mean like how you did with North Korea, Bill ??

And the President has not said he's going to attack Iran

Only you Dems have done that

7 posted on 03/03/2007 2:23:24 AM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Who gives a Shite?


8 posted on 03/03/2007 2:23:52 AM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

"We may not have to go to war..."



if its not handled now, our grandkids *should they live* will


9 posted on 03/03/2007 2:26:10 AM PST by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process™ •)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

10 posted on 03/03/2007 2:26:58 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

11 posted on 03/03/2007 2:27:33 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
You can count on Bill Clinton to come right out with the conventional wisdom. That's been his entire life. In college in the 60's, he could passionately argur for and against desegregation. He just waits, wets his finger, sticks it up in the air to check which way the wind is blowing and then spouts off.

"...if you're going to fight with somebody..."

IF? If? If you're going to fight with somebody? Uh, Billy Jeff, BJ Bill Clinton, the Mullahs have been fighting us since 1979 and the illegal takeover and hostage taking of the US Embassy in Tehran. Since then, they've used their terrorist proxies to kill hundreds of Americans. Imad Mugnieh is an Iranian controlled terrorist, who was behind the barracks and embassy bombings in Lebanon. Those, Mr BJ Bill, ARE acts of war. They attacked the Khobar Towers during your Presidency, while you were getting BJ's or hangin' with Arafat.

I am sick of these people. I am sick of those people, who let these people get away with their BS. They have and will cause the deaths of even more Americans with their encouragement of the terrorist killers. I am sick of the Republican elected officials, who hide under their desks and do not defend the country, do not defend their "beliefs" (at least they say they believe) and do not defend their constituents.

12 posted on 03/03/2007 2:34:06 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Billie and Hitlery Clinton only support going to war with Republicans. Everyone else are good friends to be tapped for illegal campaign cash (not voluntary)!


13 posted on 03/03/2007 2:34:34 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

One wonders what the Rapist in Chief's reaction would have been if, during the bombing of Kosovo, GHW Bush had publicly attacked his policy.


14 posted on 03/03/2007 2:40:18 AM PST by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
WHO CARES WHAT BILL THINKS!
15 posted on 03/03/2007 2:46:51 AM PST by Global2010 ( I am just ole Lab dog with my head stickin' out the window and my ears a flappin' in the wind.htp)
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To: Global2010
["WHO CARES WHAT BILL THINKS!"]

Hillary does...and you might want to use your head and start thinking about it (Mkay).
16 posted on 03/03/2007 2:51:31 AM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
Oh Bite me Hillary is is not going to ever sniff the interior of the White House. You obviously have no clue.
17 posted on 03/03/2007 2:57:52 AM PST by Global2010 ( I am just ole Lab dog with my head stickin' out the window and my ears a flappin' in the wind.htp)
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To: Global2010

ah, ah, ah...a little civility please. This isn't DU.


18 posted on 03/03/2007 2:59:25 AM PST by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
AW SHUCKS! ! ! !
Come on Bill
Please
19 posted on 03/03/2007 3:00:27 AM PST by DeaconRed (If it weren't for the United States Military-There would be NO United States of America.)
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

I did not curse or use God's name in vain.

So you can Bite me too.


20 posted on 03/03/2007 3:01:38 AM PST by Global2010 ( I am just ole Lab dog with my head stickin' out the window and my ears a flappin' in the wind.htp)
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To: Global2010

["You obviously have no clue."]

Really?...who's the front runner to win the Democratic Party's nomination for the next President of the US...teach me something...In short, use your head.


21 posted on 03/03/2007 3:07:10 AM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Global2010

No, you did not curse nor use God's name in vain. And that's good. But you did respond to other posters in an uncivil manner. And that's bad. That's the kind of thing that DUers do when they can't argue coherently or intelligently or logically. If you disagree with someone, that's fine. But to say "bite me" is not only vulgar and impolite, it's also dismissive and makes the listener feel that what they have to say is not only disagreed with but that they, themselves, are not worth listening to. That's wrong and unfair. Do you see now why it's unacceptable in a forum like this which has been built on the premise that everyone's opinion has value? And that the sum of our opinions and thoughts is greater than the whole?


22 posted on 03/03/2007 3:10:24 AM PST by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

WHO CARES???????????? Bill Clinton is a vile, seedy, vulture who used our Military to cover-up his perverted life he exploited in the Oval Office.

People should still be appalled by such behavior of a grown man who was elected to lead this nation but disrespected the office of the Presidency in such a disgraceful way.

So, Who Cares what Bill Clinton thinks? The man who had numerous chanced to take Osama into custody and didn't. Also, the man who allowed TERRORIST (Arafat) to be in our White House. No, I do "NOT" care what the archaic pervert thinks, nor do I care about his Opinion.


23 posted on 03/03/2007 3:13:47 AM PST by Paige
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

I disagree with your post.

Disagree Disagree Diss.

Mia T posted an excellant article a few weeks ago long read but I absolutly agree with what this ex CIA fellow from Reagan's Admin had to say on his foresight of where this country is going.

END OF SUBJECT Go hunter down.


24 posted on 03/03/2007 3:18:37 AM PST by Global2010 ( I am just ole Lab dog with my head stickin' out the window and my ears a flappin' in the wind.htp)
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

["But you did respond to other posters in an uncivil manner. And that's bad."]

This is easy (i.e. a cake walk)...try visiting the Balkan threads...things get out hand rather quickly :-)


25 posted on 03/03/2007 3:19:17 AM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Global2010

Did you mean, "go hunt her down?"


26 posted on 03/03/2007 3:19:58 AM PST by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

Vulgar? LOL

Go read some of the responses above and see what is vulgar.

Martin has a pic of BJC smoking a joint and you call me vulgar for not agree ing....

Better yet not only Mia T's article go read the last two vanities Jim Robinson typed out and come back and kick sand.

I disagree with you and the poster I responded to. Period.


27 posted on 03/03/2007 3:25:30 AM PST by Global2010 ( I am just ole Lab dog with my head stickin' out the window and my ears a flappin' in the wind.htp)
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe; Paige

Hey Paige good post.

Go ponce CaliGirl and may God help you.


28 posted on 03/03/2007 3:33:13 AM PST by Global2010 ( I am just ole Lab dog with my head stickin' out the window and my ears a flappin' in the wind.htp)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Doesn't this open the door for clintoon to sell "Don't attack Iran offsets?"

Seriously, Clinton has been schooled extensively by his close friend (Lincoln bedroom occupier) Anthony Robbins in the use of NLP phrasing so as to always have plausible deniability for anything he says. Watch for the multiple qualifiers in each statement, which the definition of, can be argued.

29 posted on 03/03/2007 3:51:32 AM PST by Texas Jack
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To: Global2010
Martin has a pic of BJC smoking a joint and you call me vulgar for not agree ing....

Not to quibble, but that is a golf tee, and the photo is the cover photo of a book about WJC.

30 posted on 03/03/2007 4:00:53 AM PST by TN4Liberty (Sixty percent of all people understand statistics. The other half are clueless.)
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To: Global2010

["I disagree with you and the poster I responded to. Period."]

Let me ask you an easy question: Who are the democrats going to (most) likely nominate to be the next president of the US?

Having posed that question, who do you think is going to give Hillary her marching orders?...Answer, Bill.

Need I say anymore?




31 posted on 03/03/2007 4:05:50 AM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Yeah Bubba....talking to North Korea....how'd that work out for ya?


32 posted on 03/03/2007 4:08:07 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

I'm not surprised...the Mullahs are probably contributing to Hildabeast's campaign, just like the ChiComs contributed to his.


33 posted on 03/03/2007 4:12:36 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Hey! The Iranians' check cleared.


34 posted on 03/03/2007 4:30:45 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Global2010

Whoo, this is getting to be a bit more trouble than it's worth. However, since you mentioned it:

1. Saying "bite me" is vulgar and dismissive. Yes, in fact, it is. Laughing about having been called on it does not make it less so.

2. The fact that others may behave or speak in a rude and/or vulgar manner does not, in any way, excuse one's own manner. To use "What about what HE did??" or, "Well, he did it FIRST!" as an argument is juvenile, facile, a distraction from the point, and faulty logic.

3. As I stated before, there is no problem with disagreeing with a poster on this forum. In fact, it's educational and fun to read when two intelligent people, with solid facts and passionate opinions, go at it here on FR. But incivility and dismissal is not argument, nor is it reasoned discussion.

Now, you were uncivil to a poster and I called you on it. You didn't appreciate my calling you on it and you were uncivil in response. I called you on that too. You become exasperated with being called on it.

Apparently you are fond of having the last word. As a demonstration and example of civility, I will let you have it. Be my guest.


35 posted on 03/03/2007 4:40:37 AM PST by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
But but but her heinous told a group of jewish people that she would take NOTHING off the table when dealing with Iran, including military option.

Of course, she said the opposite to the next group she addressed.

36 posted on 03/03/2007 4:41:15 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic; Global2010
["WHO CARES WHAT BILL THINKS!"]
Hillary does...and you might want to use your head and start thinking about it (Mkay).


Ahem. Using the name 'Hillary' and the word 'head' in the same sentence is quite nauseating at this hour of the morning.

And Global is quite correct: Mrs. Bill Clinton is never going to be in the Oval Office again unless somebody screws up and lets her take the guided tour on some odd weekend.

The last time a junior Senator from New York ran for President, it didn't turn out so good for them. There is always the chance that history might repeat itself.
37 posted on 03/03/2007 4:57:21 AM PST by mkjessup (My mechanic said "I can't fix your brakes, so I made your horn louder" - Stephen Wright)
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

Looks like you've got the last word so far. LMAO.


38 posted on 03/03/2007 4:58:13 AM PST by mkjessup (My mechanic said "I can't fix your brakes, so I made your horn louder" - Stephen Wright)
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To: Global2010

I dont think thats a joint ,unless they are making golf Tee's out of marijuana.


39 posted on 03/03/2007 5:00:29 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: Global2010

"Hillary is is not going to ever sniff the interior of the White House."

But if she did, it probably smells alot better than the last time she sniffed it.


40 posted on 03/03/2007 5:02:52 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe; Global2010
No, you did not curse nor use God's name in vain. And that's good. But you did respond to other posters in an uncivil manner. And that's bad. That's the kind of thing that DUers do when they can't argue coherently or intelligently or logically.

A couple thoughts:

a.) as for being uncivil, the old saying "politics ain't beanbag" applies here and in many threads on FR.

b.) If those ignorant cretins over at DU were well mannered enough and civil enough to ONLY say "bite me", it would be a quantum leap forward in their intellect and social skills.

Enjoy your weekend! :)

PS - Global? Try the decaf, you're upsetting CaliGirl here.
41 posted on 03/03/2007 5:03:48 AM PST by mkjessup (My mechanic said "I can't fix your brakes, so I made your horn louder" - Stephen Wright)
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Hey Bill, just what did you do during your eight years as Rapist in Chief? Sold the Chicoms our military secrets that are now in the hands of other terrorists for one. You must be trying to out twofer jimmah catta as being the worst president and worst ex president ever.

The only reason you ever got into the WH as POTUS was a loop eared Ross Perot. Why don't you just go away and keep your pie hole shut. You and jimmah never dealt with N. Korea, China, Iran or Iraq, when you had a chance and look what you left the world to deal with - terror on all fronts.

One more quick note to the impeached, whore chasing womanizer, bent one, with a wife POTUS wannabe. Go AWAY and SHUT UP. I don't care what you think. You had eight years to deal with OBL and the other terrorists, and all you did was chase one whore after the next.


42 posted on 03/03/2007 5:04:50 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The dims and Ron Paul screwed our troops.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

So Clinton is saying (hes on record that saddam had to be disarmed by force if necessary) he would have attacked Saddam who had no WMD, but he wont attack Ahmed who DOES have Wmd? what a terrible commander in chief!


43 posted on 03/03/2007 5:06:15 AM PST by omega4179 (Hitler had a "Rockstar" personality and was an articulate speaker.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
"Bill Clinton Doesn't Support Attack on Iran"

Well a lot of people don't support Bubba Jeffs attack on Kathleen Wiley and the others. So Bubba Jeff can go pound sand.

44 posted on 03/03/2007 5:09:30 AM PST by libs_kma (Monica blew while Al-Queda grew.....Oh well, Clinton happens!)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

Bill Clinton attacked the Serbs without a resolution from his beloved United Nations, and with US Congressional Authorization. It seems to me that he, as president, set a precedent.


45 posted on 03/03/2007 5:20:54 AM PST by AdvisorB (FREE POOKIE!!! FRY MUMIA!!!)
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To: Mr.Smorch

with = without


46 posted on 03/03/2007 5:21:24 AM PST by AdvisorB (FREE POOKIE!!! FRY MUMIA!!!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

"He argued that two-thirds of Iran's population wants a moderate government"

...but they have no control or influence on what their current government is doing.


47 posted on 03/03/2007 5:21:48 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

so what would anyone expect from a THREE-TIME DRAFT DODGING COWARD...


48 posted on 03/03/2007 5:23:18 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Even more reason for me to support it, like I needed one more reason.
49 posted on 03/03/2007 5:33:05 AM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
And the kind of strike should be one that decapitates the current government in addition to disrupting nuclear work.
50 posted on 03/03/2007 5:34:02 AM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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